Crashes on New Game + Load Game

[DarkXessZ]

I was able to start up Oblivion with all the mods i have, but once i go into new game and click yes. It goes into a loading screen and it was able to load 2/10 of the bar and suddenly it crashed with a error saying Oblivion has stopped working. I have tried disabling all my mods and still the same thing. I have used BOSS, Wrye Bash (Rebuild patch etc), TES4LODGEN and tried to load a saved game that is out of the sewers. it still gave me the same Crash

Anyone able to help me solve my problem? Is there conflicts in my mods that made it crash or something else?

 

Video Card: Nvidia Geforce GTX 460

 

My Load Order is:

 

 

Oblivion.esm

TR_OoT_Main.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

BetterMusicSystem.esm

bookplacing.esm

BathingMod_Base.esm

DA Run Fatigue.esm

CM Partners.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

UnnecessaryViolence.esm

bookplacing.esp

emperorface.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

Bedrollsanyone.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

ImprovedSigns.esp

KB - House of Wonders.esp

Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp

personality_idles2.esp

Personality Idles - Modified version.esp

C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

Get Wet v0.92.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs.esp

Chess Set Complete.esp

Collectable Miniature Daedric Shrines.esp

Hiyoko_Store.esp

Knight of Skeleton.esp

KohdiScimitar.esp

Oonas_Outfitters.esp

Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp

SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp

WarriorBandages_V2.0.esp

RealSwords - Argonian LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Breton LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Goblin.esp

RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp

RealSwords - Nord LO-NPC SI.esp

RealSwords - Orc LO-NPC v1.0.esp

RealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.esp

Imperial Horse Armor.esp

Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Francesco's Optional Files.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

Alluring Wine Bottles.esp

Harvest[Containers].esp

Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp

SkingradBridgeLights.esp

Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp

AABTSv1.esp

Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp

AnvilBayExpansion.esp

Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp

Demon_Consort.esp

Abriael_Human.esp

Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

GlenvarCastle.esp

Naughty_Joana_01.esp

Nascosto Isles 3.esp

Romuska Fantasy Store.esp

Scribe Supplies.esp

The Ayleid Steps.esp

The Black Cat Jewelry Store - Daedric Statues.esp

TR_Stirk.esp

Stirk_Compatibility_Patch.esp

Valenwood Improved.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Wretched Pit and Witherstone Caverns.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

TOTF.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp

ElsweyrC&CBlackwoodPatch.esp

Elsweyr plantations & co..esp

Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp

ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.esp

Walkabout.esp

Vergayun.esp

Villages II.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

Valenwood Improved - Fallenleaf Everglade EV - Patch.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

Valenwood Improved - River Ethe EV - Patch.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

LostSpiresImpeREALFortsPatch2.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

Salmo The Baker v2.0.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp

Leviathan Soulgems.esp

P1DcandlesForKleptos.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

sgLighterQuivers.esp

UV Vanilla Quest Fixes.esp

Axebane_RealHunger25.esp

BathingMod_Soap.esp

BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp

BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp

Tyler's Hungry, Thirsty, Sleepy, Tired.esp

DA Fatigued Running.esp

DA Sprint.esp

hilarity_121.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Alchemical Formulas.esp

Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp

DRSplatter.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

SP1stPLegs.esp

CM Partners.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

TSS Custom Companion Template.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

DAKaleahSuccubus.esp

DAKaleah.esp

Nec-Elf_Kaleah.esp

ElsweyrWhitelockCMPartner.esp

OrcrestCMPartners.esp

Cobl Races.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp

Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

GW71_Life_Detect.esp

UnnecessaryViolence.esp

UnnecessaryViolenceNormalSpeed.esp

DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Chess Set Basic.esp

Adonnays Elfische Waffen.esp

BloodPotions.esp

Hunter Mod.esp

Salmo the Baker V.2.esp

FF_VV_Overhauled.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

Edited July 5, 2011 by DarkXessZ

[ccmechanic2]

you have a *.nif or slideshow file set to read only or system OS has secured the file so you don't have permission to run it best thing to do is go through all directories and look far a locked file, set the system view to see all hidden files every where. You may find it that way..

[eric31415]

You have both Natural Weather esps active, This will cause CTDs on load. Disable either HD or normal res.

 

The Salmo the Baker esp causes CTDs on load for some setups, but it works fine for on others. If the above tip doesn't fix it, try deactivating Salmo.

 

I only glanced at the first bit of your LO, so there may be more issues. Read your BOSS log, it will warn you of problems like these.

 

A little further down;

Clocks of Cyrodill - Use only the Clocks BC,OBC.etc.. esp. The original reeds to be installed, but deactivated.

Edited July 3, 2011 by eric31415

[eric31415]

Ok, so i just finished reading your load order, and i admire your ambition. But i hope you have one hell of a machine, because you have a lot of really CPU intensive mods there. Especially if you also use Qarl's and OBGE.

 

While i have no experience with many of your mods, i can say that you should only have one of those Deadly Reflex esps active. And it should load last, before the bashed patch.

 

Also; there is a compatibility patch for UL Silverfish and Lost Spires.

 

If the game still crashes, try renaming tour Oblivion ini (with no mods active), then running the game by selecting "new", if it will run make sure to save a game. Then you can start reactivating mods.

Edited July 4, 2011 by eric31415

[DarkXessZ]

Ok, so i just finished reading your load order, and i admire your ambition. But i hope you have one hell of a machine, because you have a lot of really CPU intensive mods there. Especially if you also use Qarl's and OBGE.

 

While i have no experience with many of your mods, i can say that you should only have one of those Deadly Reflex esps active. And it should load last, before the bashed patch.

 

Also; there is a compatibility patch for UL Silverfish and Lost Spires.

 

If the game still crashes, try renaming tour Oblivion ini (with no mods active), then running the game by selecting "new", if it will run make sure to save a game. Then you can start reactivating mods.

hmm i did what u said mostly and i still get crash, but this time i crashed half way through the loading bar now. even after disabling all the mod.

 

 

Oblivion.esm

TR_OoT_Main.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

BetterMusicSystem.esm

bookplacing.esm

BathingMod_Base.esm

DA Run Fatigue.esm

CM Partners.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

UnnecessaryViolence.esm

bookplacing.esp

emperorface.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp

Better Cities .esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

Bedrollsanyone.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

ImprovedSigns.esp

KB - House of Wonders.esp

Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp

personality_idles2.esp

Personality Idles - Modified version.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

Get Wet v0.92.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs.esp

Chess Set Complete.esp

Collectable Miniature Daedric Shrines.esp

Hiyoko_Store.esp

Knight of Skeleton.esp

KohdiScimitar.esp

Oonas_Outfitters.esp

Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp

SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp

WarriorBandages_V2.0.esp

RealSwords - Argonian LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Breton LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Goblin.esp

RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp

RealSwords - Nord LO-NPC SI.esp

RealSwords - Orc LO-NPC v1.0.esp

RealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.esp

Imperial Horse Armor.esp

Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Francesco's Optional Files.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

Alluring Wine Bottles.esp

Harvest[Containers].esp

Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp

SkingradBridgeLights.esp

Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp

AABTSv1.esp

Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp

AnvilBayExpansion.esp

Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp

Abriael_Human.esp

Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

GlenvarCastle.esp

Nascosto Isles 3.esp

Romuska Fantasy Store.esp

Scribe Supplies.esp

The Ayleid Steps.esp

The Black Cat Jewelry Store - Daedric Statues.esp

TR_Stirk.esp

Stirk_Compatibility_Patch.esp

Valenwood Improved.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Wretched Pit and Witherstone Caverns.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

TOTF.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp

ElsweyrC&CBlackwoodPatch.esp

Elsweyr plantations & co..esp

Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp

ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.esp

Walkabout.esp

Vergayun.esp

Villages II.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

Valenwood Improved - Fallenleaf Everglade EV - Patch.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

Valenwood Improved - River Ethe EV - Patch.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp

ImpeREAL Forts + Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp

LostSpiresImpeREALFortsPatch2.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp

Leviathan Soulgems.esp

P1DcandlesForKleptos.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

sgLighterQuivers.esp

UV Vanilla Quest Fixes.esp

Axebane_RealHunger25.esp

BathingMod_Soap.esp

BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp

BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp

Tyler's Hungry, Thirsty, Sleepy, Tired.esp

DA Fatigued Running.esp

DA Sprint.esp

hilarity_121.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Alchemical Formulas.esp

Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp

DRSplatter.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

SP1stPLegs.esp

CM Partners.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

TSS Custom Companion Template.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

DAKaleahSuccubus.esp

DAKaleah.esp

Nec-Elf_Kaleah.esp

ElsweyrWhitelockCMPartner.esp

OrcrestCMPartners.esp

Cobl Races.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp

Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

GW71_Life_Detect.esp

UnnecessaryViolence.esp

UnnecessaryViolenceNormalSpeed.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Chess Set Basic.esp

Adonnays Elfische Waffen.esp

BloodPotions.esp

Hunter Mod.esp

FF_VV_Overhauled.esp

Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

Edited July 5, 2011 by DarkXessZ

[DarkXessZ]

i guess anyone can't find what problems i am having? i guess i should reinstall?

[nosisab]

Man, that's an impressive load list stuffed with almost everything prone to give compatibility problems and almost at the absolute maximum limit. It can be yet worsen if you have disabled ESPs in the data folder or even files that can be identified as ESP even if have the extension changed, like xyz.esp.bak with the esp part or otherwise. Still not enough, I saw sometimes ago a post that talked about the problem exist even if the ESP files are on another directory under the game's root folder.

 

you should begin by verifying if it's not the case. If so, try removing those disabled ESP, noticing if they come from mods which have more things, like textures and meshes... simply disabling or deleting it might be not enough. The problem extends yet more with mods where the "install" order is meaningful, because changing load order can be fatal in these cases (this is the typical case where a mod physically overwrites files from another).

 

That yours is not a simple problem which can be simply answered... you'll need to deal with too much troubles to filter all which might be a mess by now. If was with me this kind of problem, I would save that load list for reference and remove all the mods and reinstall everything again, caring to follow the nearest of perfect "install" order... for example, always installing patches first, and so on.

 

So, if after some attempts the issue is not going out... could indeed be a good idea saving/backup the OMOD folder, if exist... uninstalling the game afterward (and properly), deleting totally the /Oblivion folder (possibly even deleting the Oblivion folder on Documents too, caring to backup the saves first, of course) and finally installing it again, recovering the omod folder, reinstalling the mods, preferably one by one or in small batches, and finally trying the old saves again.

 

It's a hard task, I know, but can be the less laborious in the ultimate instance.

Edited July 4, 2011 by nosisab

[ccmechanic2]

Create a new folder right there and move all the unused mods into it. leave only the base game files and run it if it does not run, you main file is corrupted from use, fragmented. an easy thing to be overlooked. The os does an inadequacy job of DE fragmentation, OOdefrag will repair all fragmented files. It is not a guarantee but it may solve your problem.

[bben46]

Troubleshooting help

Disabling (unchecking) mods does not uninstall them. The meshes and textures are still loaded.

Max hard coded mods allowed active 255 - However there is a little known second limit of about 400 mods allowed in the data folder. It seems that the game likes to read every mod in the data folder whether or not it is active - and crashes if there are too many. The Wrye Bash ghosting function removes any that are marked as not being used and fixes this - or just move any unused mods out of data.

 

Before reinstalling, try this

Bben's Oblivion Revert to Vanilla game

WIKI

http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Revert_to_vanilla_data

 

If you do have to reinstall

Here is a link to my complete uninstall/reinstall procedure located in the WIKI section of the Nexus

http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Oblivion_reinstall_procedure

 

It allows you to preserve any saves and mods, or remove them completely - your choice.

 

A way to test new mods without changing a working game: mTES4manager - http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35263 :thumbsup:

[DarkXessZ]

thx guys, i am slowly reinstalling and finding the problem one mod by another and trying to see if i get any crashes from any of them.

ummm i got one more question for HGEC bbb and deadly reflex. i came across a problem i noticed. Deadly reflex told me to replace some HGEC bbb files like femalefoot.nif, etc.

what do i do? Do i keep the HGEC bbb ones or deadly reflex? Also i have the skeleton hotfix for both, but there is still others these both try to overwrite

Edited July 5, 2011 by DarkXessZ