Exteriors crashing

[sabbath91]

Hey, guys.

 

I have a problem with my Fallout 3 GOTY. Game is crashing ever 15-20 minutes, always when going to exteriors (through the doors or gates, for instance leaving Megaton to Wastelands).

 

My load order:

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] Project Beauty.esm

[X] EVE.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

[X] BrokenSteel2.esp

[X] CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[X] UniqueItems_1.1_ENG.esp

[X] XENH.esp

[X] Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp

[X] BetterGamePerformance.esp

[X] Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp

[X] FO3 NPCs Travel.esp

[X] 100% Force Lock Chance.esp

[X] Action_Boy_hacking.esp

[X] JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp

[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp

[X] BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp

[X] Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp

[X] Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[ ] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

[ ] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

[ ] CRBSOR [Achievements Removed].esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

[ ] (TWPC) BBB-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

[ ] (TWPC) WMK-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

[ ] PAtch.esp

All unselected mods below Bashed Patch are included into it. List is already masterupdated with FO3Edit. I'm using MMM merged version (but game was crashing with nonmerged as well).

Ini file is prepared for multicore CPUs (I have 2 cores CPU with 4 logical procesors) and several other tweaks form tweakguide. 4GB patch installed (along with CFF Explorer tweaks).

Game is running smoothly on high details. There is no problem with performance at all. All necessary compatibility patches seems to be installed properly. So I have no idea what's wrong.

Hope to find solution in here, from nexus community.

Cheers.

Edited June 4, 2016 by sabbath91

[gunslinger6792]

Okay first off your load order is really messed up. go download Loot and have it sort through your mods. After doing that see if that works, if not deselect all the mods that edit the exterior locations and try enabling them one at a time. I suspect either your loader is what's causing the crashing or one of your mods like AWOP/FWE/Marts mutant mod/ or clean deluxe are conflicting with something.

[sabbath91]

Okay first off your load order is really messed up. go download Loot and have it sort through your mods. After doing that see if that works, if not deselect all the mods that edit the exterior locations and try enabling them one at a time. I suspect either your loader is what's causing the crashing or one of your mods like AWOP/FWE/Marts mutant mod/ or clean deluxe are conflicting with something.

Thank you for your answer.

 

LOOT sorted all my mods, the load order looks like this now:

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] Project Beauty.esm

[X] EVE.esm

[X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[X] Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp

[X] BetterGamePerformance.esp

[X] BrokenSteel2.esp

[X] Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp

[X] 100% Force Lock Chance.esp

[X] Action_Boy_hacking.esp

[X] JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp

[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp

[X] Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[X] Fellout-Full.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

[X] FO3 NPCs Travel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] UniqueItems_1.1_ENG.esp

[X] XENH.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp

[X] BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

[X] Zombie Mod.esp

[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

[X] CRBSOR [Achievements Removed].esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

[X] (TWPC) BBB-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

[X] (TWPC) WMK-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp

I tried the method you told me and it seems that FWE and MMM are causing CTDs. Is there anything I can do with this?

[gunslinger6792]

Considering those mod are extremely popular I'd go to the homepage for each mod and see if the mention anything about compatibility. From there if you can't find any info I'd start doing searches for FWE and MMM crashes and or compatibility. Something should pop up allowing them to work. Beyond that I couldn't say what's causing it specifically.

[sabbath91]

I already did that but FWE compatibility list is gone. Can't find it anywhere.

 

Someone told me that MMM's increased spawns are causing problems so I'll try to change spawns options.

 

Anyway thanks for suggestions, gunslinger6792 :smile:

Edited June 4, 2016 by sabbath91

[gunslinger6792]

I hope it works out for you :)

[M48A5]

You will never have a usable game if you have loot sort your mods. You had a better load order when you first started.

 

Go back to the FWE description page and scroll down the page. You will find a sample load order there.

 

For sorting Fallout 3 mods, use B.O.S.S. https://boss-developers.github.io/

[sabbath91]

You will never have a usable game if you have loot sort your mods. You had a better load order when you first started.

 

Go back to the FWE description page and scroll down the page. You will find a sample load order there.

 

For sorting Fallout 3 mods, use B.O.S.S. https://boss-developers.github.io/

 

Sorted all mods with BOSS. Looks better. But problem still apears. Especially around Megaton, Springfield School and Duper Market.

 

Suprisingly, something strange is happening with shadows in game now. All shadows in interiors are flickering. However increasing FOV and turning on Bloom is hiding it.

 

I think FWE is responsible for all my problems.

[M48A5]

 

You will never have a usable game if you have loot sort your mods. You had a better load order when you first started.

 

Go back to the FWE description page and scroll down the page. You will find a sample load order there.

 

For sorting Fallout 3 mods, use B.O.S.S. https://boss-developers.github.io/

 

Sorted all mods with BOSS. Looks better. But problem still apears. Especially around Megaton, Springfield School and Duper Market.

 

I think FWE is responsible for all my problems.

 

 

New load order?

 

If there is a problem being caused by FWE, then it is either a load order problem or an installation problem. FWE has been around for years and is relatively trouble free if it is installed and sorted correctly.

[sabbath91]

Ok, I reinstalled my Fallout 3 nad installed mods again, but I also decided to remove some mods. Game is running well now. No CTDs, no freezeing.

 

My new load order:

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm

[X] RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

[X] BrokenSteel2.esp

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[X] TweaksAutoSave.esp

[X] Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

[X] FO3 NPCs Travel.esp

[X] BoSPatrols.esp

[X] Wasteland Soldier Armor.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

[ ] WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp

[X] RH_WMK_Bridge.esp

[X] Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp

[X] BetterGamePerformance.esp

[X] Rooses Performance Pack.esp

[X] Performance Mods Merged Patch.esp

[X] JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

[X] JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp

[X] Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[X] XENH.esp

[X] Flora Overhaul.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

[X] 2Perks Per Level.esp

[ ] BlackWolf Backpack.esp

I removed MMM, EVE nad PB. Earlier I was suspicious to FWE, but FWE wasn't making my game crash, I must say that. Could it be MMM? I don't know and I'm not going to check this atm.

I also did merged patch for performance mods (since I installed Flora Overhaul I need them to keep my FPS on decent level).

Everything is working fine now.

Thanks for all suggestions and tips. This topic can be closed now.

Cheers.

Edited June 9, 2016 by sabbath91