ibrad Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Most of you may not like what I have to say since wanting to play Skyrim has been so frustrating, but I did find a solution and I didn't like it. I don't have a tweak, only a change of video cards. I removed my HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card and inserted my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5. I did not change the video drivers or change the Realtek drivers...I just booted up the system after changing to the ATI card, logged into Steam and began playing where it always crashed using the HIS card. The exact place where my system failed to continue using the HIS card did not crash my system using the ATI HD card. I have been able to play without any issues. I will be interesting to go back to my HIS card and play to see if it does crash again, but I don't think that will solve anything, but wasting more time on this. I'll reply to my own post. I was right, the HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card causes the game to crash and my my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5 plays Skyrim just fine. I was able to play with the HIS card for about 10-15 minutes and then it did the infamous black screen crash with Skyrim only. There must be something about the faster cards causing the issue since the older cards work fine. Could it be DX11 since the HIS card is DX11 compatible and the XFX card is only 10.1? That is where I would look if I were a developer for Bethesda, but there could be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whogoods Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Most of you may not like what I have to say since wanting to play Skyrim has been so frustrating, but I did find a solution and I didn't like it. I don't have a tweak, only a change of video cards. I removed my HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card and inserted my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5. I did not change the video drivers or change the Realtek drivers...I just booted up the system after changing to the ATI card, logged into Steam and began playing where it always crashed using the HIS card. The exact place where my system failed to continue using the HIS card did not crash my system using the ATI HD card. I have been able to play without any issues. I will be interesting to go back to my HIS card and play to see if it does crash again, but I don't think that will solve anything, but wasting more time on this. I'll reply to my own post. I was right, the HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card causes the game to crash and my my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5 plays Skyrim just fine. I was able to play with the HIS card for about 10-15 minutes and then it did the infamous black screen crash with Skyrim only. There must be something about the faster cards causing the issue since the older cards work fine. Could it be DX11 since the HIS card is DX11 compatible and the XFX card is only 10.1? That is where I would look if I were a developer for Bethesda, but there could be something else. Most likely a driver issue. The game is DX9 so it really wouldn't matter if the 6870 supports DX11 while the 4870 doesn't. Have you tried increasing the voltage a notch or two on the 6870 with MSI Afterburner? Try that and see if it alleviates the crashes. If not I'd use drive sweeper to completely uninstall the video drivers and would install the latest beta drivers. I'd also delete the ini files located in ../my games/skyrim/ folder before starting up the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Rimmer Bsc.Ssc. Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Most of you may not like what I have to say since wanting to play Skyrim has been so frustrating, but I did find a solution and I didn't like it. I don't have a tweak, only a change of video cards. I removed my HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card and inserted my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5. I did not change the video drivers or change the Realtek drivers...I just booted up the system after changing to the ATI card, logged into Steam and began playing where it always crashed using the HIS card. The exact place where my system failed to continue using the HIS card did not crash my system using the ATI HD card. I have been able to play without any issues. I will be interesting to go back to my HIS card and play to see if it does crash again, but I don't think that will solve anything, but wasting more time on this. I'll reply to my own post. I was right, the HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card causes the game to crash and my my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5 plays Skyrim just fine. I was able to play with the HIS card for about 10-15 minutes and then it did the infamous black screen crash with Skyrim only. There must be something about the faster cards causing the issue since the older cards work fine. Could it be DX11 since the HIS card is DX11 compatible and the XFX card is only 10.1? That is where I would look if I were a developer for Bethesda, but there could be something else. Most likely a driver issue. The game is DX9 so it really wouldn't matter if the 6870 supports DX11 while the 4870 doesn't. Have you tried increasing the voltage a notch or two on the 6870 with MSI Afterburner? Try that and see if it alleviates the crashes. If not I'd use drive sweeper to completely uninstall the video drivers and would install the latest beta drivers. I'd also delete the ini files located in ../my games/skyrim/ folder before starting up the game. your not actually reading the posts are you ? everytime i see you reply all you do is ignore the fact its the game thats at fault and keep repeating stupid advice dealt with many pages ago. what been found to universaly actually fix the black screens is to downgrade the graphics card or go nvidia.some have limited success that doesnt last long with tweaking out whatever the game called functions that cause the black screen from the ini files. theres enough of this misdirection and troll posting at bethesda,did you really have to come here and start the same garbage ?you never get to see these people wasting thier time following your daft responses,so what kind of thrills are to be had doing it here also ? Edited January 8, 2012 by AJ Rimmer Bsc.Ssc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whogoods Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Most of you may not like what I have to say since wanting to play Skyrim has been so frustrating, but I did find a solution and I didn't like it. I don't have a tweak, only a change of video cards. I removed my HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card and inserted my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5. I did not change the video drivers or change the Realtek drivers...I just booted up the system after changing to the ATI card, logged into Steam and began playing where it always crashed using the HIS card. The exact place where my system failed to continue using the HIS card did not crash my system using the ATI HD card. I have been able to play without any issues. I will be interesting to go back to my HIS card and play to see if it does crash again, but I don't think that will solve anything, but wasting more time on this. I'll reply to my own post. I was right, the HIS 6870 IceQ X 1GB GDDR5 video card causes the game to crash and my my XFX Radeon HD 4870 ATI-Design 1GB GDDR5 plays Skyrim just fine. I was able to play with the HIS card for about 10-15 minutes and then it did the infamous black screen crash with Skyrim only. There must be something about the faster cards causing the issue since the older cards work fine. Could it be DX11 since the HIS card is DX11 compatible and the XFX card is only 10.1? That is where I would look if I were a developer for Bethesda, but there could be something else. Most likely a driver issue. The game is DX9 so it really wouldn't matter if the 6870 supports DX11 while the 4870 doesn't. Have you tried increasing the voltage a notch or two on the 6870 with MSI Afterburner? Try that and see if it alleviates the crashes. If not I'd use drive sweeper to completely uninstall the video drivers and would install the latest beta drivers. I'd also delete the ini files located in ../my games/skyrim/ folder before starting up the game. your not actually reading the posts are you ? everytime i see you reply all you do is ignore the fact its the game thats at fault and keep repeating stupid advice dealt with many pages ago. what been found to universaly actually fix the black screens is to downgrade the graphics card or go nvidia.some have limited success that doesnt last long with tweaking out whatever the game called functions that cause the black screen from the ini files. theres enough of this misdirection and troll posting at bethesda,did you really have to come here and start the same garbage ?you never get to see these people wasting thier time following your daft responses,so what kind of thrills are to be had doing it here also ? :hurr: Apologies for not reading through the 120+ pages this thread consists of you salt pile :rolleyes: . I'd know the time it takes since it took me about 10-14 hours trying to fix the issue myself assuming the game was at fault as this thread is so heavily for. If I'd have just stuck with this consensus here I wouldn't be enjoying my game as I am now. From the sound of it a lot of you who have given up on the problem that lay the fault 100% on the game are real salty and sensitive when someone comes around mentioning they've fixed the problem and that it was due to hardware related issues. People here go up in arms. I am in no way trolling, keep your internet geek talk to yourself. I am taking the time out of my day to give advice which many of you salty skeevers have stopped giving. SO WHAT I have people stress test their machines and have people look at hardware being at fault before placing it on the game. If they successfully pass the tests then they can rule out instability, know their PC's are stable, and then blame the fault closer to software related problems. I agree that this game has issues, but coming here to fix the problems one would immediately assume their PC configurations are not at fault and the game 100% is which in a lot of cases it isn't. Just so you know downgrading a card is a hardware fix. ;) Edited January 8, 2012 by whogoods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay0510 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Some of you need to lay of of whogoods I tried a number of the possible fixes in this thread. His advice is the only thing that worked for me. So what if it doesn't work for everyone, but it does work for some. I agree the game is full of bugs, but leave him alone he is one of the few giving advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Rimmer Bsc.Ssc. Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) there was a nutjob once who used to wander round the local garage telling people thier cars knackered because its thier alternator.because 6 years earlier his car had broken down and it was the alternator. now 1 in a 1000 cases he would have course be right,but that didnt alter the fact that him being there everyday spouting that cobblers was pissing people off. now this threads been an abundance of people reporting the same problem,on similiar cards,but ONLY with skyrim.most all have already checked the obvious causes,even while knowing that if its not doing it in other games it has to be the game code that knackered. so when we get people coming in at page 100+ telling us to "blow the dust out" or "spend £100 on a psu to test it" or "your systems unstable" [without so much as a glance at the sys specs btw]well it is as close to trolling as it gets. go play the daft forum game on bethesdas board,they allow it and even encourage it as it detracts from the problem,and hides how bad it is. ps..that nutjob outside the garage also used to swap his red coat for a blue coat and try and defend the "other" guy in the red coat. ;) Edited January 9, 2012 by AJ Rimmer Bsc.Ssc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreigner Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 your not actually reading the posts are you ? everytime i see you reply all you do is ignore the fact its the game thats at fault and keep repeating stupid advice dealt with many pages ago. what been found to universaly actually fix the black screens is to downgrade the graphics card or go nvidia.some have limited success that doesnt last long with tweaking out whatever the game called functions that cause the black screen from the ini files. theres enough of this misdirection and troll posting at bethesda,did you really have to come here and start the same garbage ?you never get to see these people wasting thier time following your daft responses,so what kind of thrills are to be had doing it here also ? protip: nvidia users have the same issue! i've more or less removed my black screen crashes recently and even though i still get the occasional one, it's mostly CTD now. telling people that they're reiterating stupid advice just because "you fixed your problem so this must be the way to fix everyone else's problem" is plain rude and just shows that you're a fool. suggesting that people switch cards completely isn't fixing the issue, either. if someone was to keep entering your house without your permission and there was the possibility of having the faulty lock fixed by someone but instead someone else said "you should just move house. yeah, that's how i fixed my problem. since moving house i haven't had anyone enter it without my permission," what would you do? have someone fix the lock or just move house because someone else said that it was how they "fixed" their problem? seeing as there have been a range of suggestions posted and some work for some people while others don't and vice versa, i think the best method would be trying fixes that aren't going to cost money to begin with. new expenses due to software faults should be a last resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whogoods Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 there was a nutjob once who used to wander round the local garage telling people thier cars knackered because its thier alternator.because 6 years earlier his car had broken down and it was the alternator. now 1 in a 1000 cases he would have course be right,but that didnt alter the fact that him being there everyday spouting that cobblers was pissing people off. now this threads been an abundance of people reporting the same problem,on similiar cards,but ONLY with skyrim.most all have already checked the obvious causes,even while knowing that if its not doing it in other games it has to be the game code that knackered. so when we get people coming in at page 100+ telling us to "blow the dust out" or "spend £100 on a psu to test it" or "your systems unstable" [without so much as a glance at the sys specs btw]well it is as close to trolling as it gets. go play the daft forum game on bethesdas board,they allow it and even encourage it as it detracts from the problem,and hides how bad it is. ps..that nutjob outside the garage also used to swap his red coat for a blue coat and try and defend the "other" guy in the red coat. ;) My advice has helped people. Meanwhile your stories haven't entertained a soul. One doesn't need to glance at system specs before suggesting stress tests be ran to cancel out possibilities. If you were really in touch with the problem like you think you are as the previous post stated why recommend Nvidia cards. There are plenty of users with them experiencing the same thing. Should they switch over to AMD cards? At this point of the game I don't even bother picking up salt piles like yourself anymore. I just leave them things in the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Rimmer Bsc.Ssc. Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 blah you logout and "jay0510" logs in again i wonder if you agree with yourself in the next reply ;) just pick another thread to derail,this ones for grown ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whogoods Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 blah you logout and "jay0510" logs in again i wonder if you agree with yourself in the next reply ;) just pick another thread to derail,this ones for grown ups. :rolleyes: You seem really irritated and salty by the fact my posts have helped people going as far as saying they are me. :laugh: I ain't going no where salty. Stay tuned for my next post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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