Althis002 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Hello there, same issue here. Having shutdowns/restarts every time I run skyrim on this computer.My rig:Intel core i5 2500kZ68MA-D2H-B3 GigaByte MotherboardNvidia Geforce GTX560tiWindows 7 Professional x648 GB ram No overclock, brand new PC. Skyrim is the first game I'm trying to run after assembled.Made sure that have all the drivers up to date and the latest version of skyrim. Its not a problem with the power supply either, of that I'm absolutely sure. The difference between my problem and others is that it is completely reliable and not random by any means. The game always crashes after creating a new game, on the exact second the screen should fade in to the game. Always like that, and always a complete shutdown, no sound, no orange screen, no nothing. If anyone have worked a solution in similar conditions to mine, I'd love to hear about it. Thanks. Althis Megas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johad Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) @beudeuh this 4gb fix can be applied to the latest patch (just make sure it is actually applied, you'll see the .bak file created when it is). It's not about lying from bethesda side, maybe they did it wrong. And i think this fan made 4gb patch isnt actually only 4gb but unlimited depending on OS. Anyways there are so many parameters involved that we cant tell for sure, but when troubleshooting in my work, we start by identifying whos fault it is NOT, to minimize the possible causes. And i can say for sure that in my case and many others (not all), it is NOT the hardware. It's bethesda. Thats the only thing i can say with 100% certainty. And im not all out against bethesda, last patch gave me a fps increase and if it wasnt an amazing game i wouldnt be here would i? @althis does a save game work? you can get a save game from the nexus mod section. Do other games work fine? (spider solitaire doesnt count as a game :P ) . Did you try different graphics settings? Did you try reinstalling skyrim? You must make absolutely sure its skyrim specific through extended usage of your computer with various programs cause if its not i can think of countless hardware reasons that can completely shut down the computer Edited February 27, 2012 by johad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow56 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Try to go back to patch 1.3.10 and walla problems are solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johad Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 i'll resume the solution after 12 hours of testing with a clear install of 1.4 and after 16 hours with mods, with zero crashes, reboots, shutdowns etc. I used this http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=3211 It couldnt be applied initially so this is what i did. Antivirus off, then run skyrim, then patch with skyrim running. The 4gb patches sees that tesv.exe is already used, keep the patcher open, exit skyrim, retry to patch, patch succesfull, tesv.exe.bak created succesfully. Im using a core duo 2,66GHz E6750 on a socket 775 asus p5k permium motherboard6gb pc-3200 ramnvidia gts 250 (1gb ram) running at 1920x1080x32windows 7 64bitrunning skyrim with 26 mods enabled, some using scripts, many created with CK. Also some 2k retextures on high settings. What did not help. (solutions posted already in these 140 pages)1)Changing sound input channels 2,4,6,8. and sound quality2)Changed AA, AF, FXAA, display drivers3)Removed all mods, clear install, clear start game, used alternative dlls, used ENB series dlls4)Underclocked my cpu from 3,2 to 2, underclocked my FSB from 400 to 333, changed the multiplier, played with spread spectrum5)Underclocked my gpu These did nothing. Plus i had no such reboots/shutdowns ever, less alone since release till 1.3It started on 1.4 exclusively. Make sure that you belong to the REBOOT/SHUTDOWN and only at skyrim/no other demanding game categoryLet everyone know if that 4gb patcher helps you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekel2959 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I have been having abrupt CTD's and lockups constantly since 1.4, mostly opening containers, map, or loading a new cell or saving. I hardly ever finsh a dungeon run without it happening. I have a 3.0ghz dual core running XP with max ram.I started with a GTX9600 512MB running medium then low.I upgraded to a 550 Ti 2048MB running high, medium then low with NO changes to crash frequency.I tried the /3GB large mem switch with both cards and my machine was not happy with either. I have always played with SkyUI ( and SKSE )Having to play without SKSE last night after the patch was enlightening. I ran all my mods ( ~30) except SKSE, and played several hours with ZERO crashes. That has NEVER happened. I have to say I am pretty convinced, but your mileage may vary. Pretty simple to test... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekel2959 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 2nd night playing without SKSE and still no crashes. I am starting to get fond of the "No SKSE" warning box that SkyUI now gives me, far better than the constant crashes. I have been having abrupt CTD's and lockups constantly since 1.4, mostly opening containers, map, or loading a new cell or saving. I hardly ever finsh a dungeon run without it happening. I have a 3.0ghz dual core running XP with max ram.I started with a GTX9600 512MB running medium then low.I upgraded to a 550 Ti 2048MB running high, medium then low with NO changes to crash frequency.I tried the /3GB large mem switch with both cards and my machine was not happy with either. I have always played with SkyUI ( and SKSE )Having to play without SKSE last night after the patch was enlightening. I ran all my mods ( ~30) except SKSE, and played several hours with ZERO crashes. That has NEVER happened. I have to say I am pretty convinced, but your mileage may vary. Pretty simple to test... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyviusRan Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) I seem to get the crashes only when going to Whiterun from Riverwood or Riverwood to Whiterun.It can be from walking or fast traveling but it always crashes.When walking it crashes when I get a certain distance to either town. Everything other place loads fine with no crash. Edit: nevermind the crash it caused by the RAM usage going past 1.7gigs. I am using the latest patch so it should have the 4gb fix in it...... Edited March 4, 2012 by RyviusRan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonbornxxx Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Having the same but specific problems with Skyrim.My desktop is:OS Windows Xp 64xMB AM3 870 MSI 870A-G54 (FX), PCIe/DDR3/SATA3/USB3/GLAN/7.1CPU Athlon II X2 3.01 GHzGC ATi Radeon 4650 1GB DDR38 GB Ram DDR3 1600 MHz After the first install it was all perfect without any problem except just a few freezing crashes (2 or 3 after days and days of play) but only later in the game (let's say after the level 20/25) and only few times. Didn't pay any attention to that whatsoever considering my OS is ready for reinstall. I consider these freezes as normal. Otherwise, graphics settings were auto set to maximum and everything was just perfect - landscapes, caves, towns, faces, dragons... Except for those few freezes. Because other problems with my OS I had to reinstall it considering those Skyrim freezes as a one more reason to do it. By that time I was level somewhere above 30 (35?).After complete reinstall of OS and Skyrim, and above level 30 (35?), it started! GRRRRRRRR! PC just goes shutdown absolutely as the power outage. After learning the fact that it is a game, with caution I started it again. I was in Talos temple in Merkarth and after I leave temple into the city it was auto-saving and it instantly shutdown PC. When I tried to load this auto-save it did the same. Then I applied the proposed fix to delete auto-saves and disable autosave option, load from the last manual save and continue playing expecting that this actually fixed it. But it happened again when I went again to Talos Temple in Markarth. Then I thought it was some bug concerning this particular Temple so I tried to stay away from Merkarth and this temple. But after a while it happend again and again more frequent and in more variants. And it is always pc shutdown. No BSOD, no CTD, no restart just shutdown. And it is happening mostly while outside but occasionally inside also - smithing, smelthing, talking, purchasing various staf, walking, fighting dragon (it never crashed while figthing other beasts or anyone else)... Then I have tried the following ways to fix this s.it1. Auto-save issue as mentioned earlier2. updated direct x to 103. updated direct x to 114. updated graphics driver to catalyst 11.105. Fx and Cobweb fix (enbseries_skyrim_v0088patch1)6. Enb patch http://enbdev.com/download_patch_skyrim.htm7. Found somwhere here "It is related to auto-saves like gjm777 stated. However disabling auto-saving is insufficient (and not required; leave auto-saving enabled as it was). I noticed that once the game started crashing, if I fast-travelled to another location, it said "Autosaving" and after a few minutes in the new location it crashed. However after I rebooted and clicked Continue game, it started from my old location and not from the auto-save after I fast-travelled, which meant that the auto-saving failed completely and it subsequently crashed. So I fast-travelled to a new location and created a manual save (Escape->Save) and then quit to desktop. I then went to the "My Games\Skyrim\Saves" folder and deleted all the auto-saves and quick-saves and left only my manual save. Now when I continued playing everything worked fine including future auto-saves and it hasn't crashed in over 2 days. I had inadvertently done this 2 weeks ago while trying to clean all traces of the game and it started working properly back then, so it's worked successfully on two incidents. Basically: 1. Continue game 2. Fast-Travel to new location 3. Save game manually (Escape->Save ) 4. Quit to Desktop 5. Delete all saves from "My Games\Skyrim\Saves" except your manual save. 6. Continue game."8. Reinstalled game. Doing this I've realized that shutdowns were not happening before my saves were less then 10000 KB. I don't know if it matters, but this is an observation. All of this proposed fixes did only that pc shutdown occurs more often and in more various situations, the playable time is less and less. Not only that - sometimes when it shuts down if I try to turn pc on quickly afterwards it won't start OS and restarts. If I let it for couple of minutes it goes up again and working perfectly except if in SKyrim. But these Skyrim crashes will damage my hardware permanently!!!!!!!!!!! THEN! All of a sudden, I have realized!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is a fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It can't be more simplier than this fix Uninstall Skyrim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Untill someone finds a solution to this serious problem!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really enjoy playing Skyrim it is amazingly excellent and I was hooked up playing it as much as I could spare time even not sleeping!!!! It is that good!!!!But if it damages my PC or make me so nervous it is not worth it!!!! I don't want to risk anymore. When the problem is solved, Skyrim here I am! Until that, I can live without it! Edited March 5, 2012 by dragonbornxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarundel Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Well in my case Disabling the HG texture mod helps. The sound issue will not help at all. Just play the game without HQ water, Skies, and shadows. With only oroginal textures ( other gear texture not included ) I never have the NPC or other item losing textures and blackened face and frequent crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyviusRan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I tested it again and it doesn't seem the problem is with RAM usage . I guess the problem really is with Whiterun and Riverwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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