RoyBatterian Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 @Dark0ne As usual your thoughts reflect a great deal of the communities own. Nothing to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdestkidyoullevermeet2 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 tldrsounds like youre defending the cancerous toxic community that completely ruined all mod makers and forced people into disabling their mods on this site because of how much you didnt protect their content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tovias Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 How much cash is Bethesda investing in this place? Would make you think they own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tovias Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 In response to post #39476515. RoyBatterian wrote: @Dark0neAs usual your thoughts reflect a great deal of the communities own.Nothing to add.It only reflects his pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namea Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Within hours of the trailer release for the new enhanced skyrim I saw a popular modder in the Skyrim community getting high and mighty and saying something along the lines of "Great, now all the pathetic console peasants will be flooding my pages demanding mod ports to consoles." Let me just say that anyone who uses the term "Console Peasant" seriously and without joking intent is automatically a douchenozzel in my mind. This particular creator is usually a b&@*$, she's arrogant and clearly thinks herself better than everyone but I STILL expected more from her. Personally I am excited for console users to get mods. I am a PC girl all the way but my husband is a console gamer. We have similar taste in games and often play them together, at the same time on our differing platforms. It's a fun way to bond as we discover new things and get to be excited together about it. To me he's not a console peasant, he's just another gamer. My dearest hope is that mods for consoles will be a turning point in this stupid separation between console and PC gamers. Finally a way for us to meet in the middle and people to start just enjoying that we have a hobby in common. Which brings me to mod theft and the biggest problems with it. Yeah, stealing mods sucks, it's a horrible thing to take something someone else has worked on extensively and release it as your own. While many modders are handling this issue with arrogance and punishing the whole community for a few asshats there are those who are seeing the larger issue with this: Console gamers aren't used to modding. What does this mean? Anyone who has extensively modded games for years knows that sometimes crap goes wrong. Sometimes a mod breaks your game or is incompatible with another mod. Sometimes you as the user have to go in and figure out what's up because a mod author is not responsible for figuring out every possible configuration and incompatibility of their mod. Console users can't do that. They have no access to the internal systems. No way to open a mod up and look, no way to manually delete it or fix it. No way to go in and completely remove every part of a mod if a mod author leaves the community and the mod doesn't get updated. And if they could, would they know how? Now my husband is terrible with computers. He really is. I build them for a living but that man can kill one in 30 minutes if left alone with it. I know that's not typical for console gamers but on the whole most of them have less knowledge of the technology behind their consoles than PC users have about their machines. This is going to cause problems as well when inevitably mods break. This, more even than morality, is the problem with mod theft. Making a mod stable enough to work on consoles is not as simple as ticking a checkbox in the CK. Mod authors, at least the good ones, will want to optimize their mods and actually build them to be stable for console users. There needs to be a quality control threshold here. No more shoddily built mods coded by amateurs. I can fix those on my PC but on a console? A console user will have to deal with the consequences and will be unable to fix it. There has to be a screening process in place for the protection of save games across the board so to speak. In the end this whole situation is new, strange, and for me at least exciting. There are a lot of kinks that are going to need work and it might take a while. If everyone just pulls their heads out of their asses and starts trying to work together we might actually get somewhere towards a more peaceful gaming community. And as for creators like the one I mentioned at the beginning of this novel of a comment? Well screw them. She may think she's the cream of the Skyrim crop just because she's released popular mods but at the end of the day she's just another person behind a screen who ports assets she didn't create into a bit of software she didn't create to put into a game she didn't create. If she wants to look down on people for their choice of gaming platform she's going to need some serious stilts because from where I'm standing it looks like better people, better authors, and a better mentality will hopefully be on the rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1llian Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Don't be so hasty in pointing fingers. Microsoft had a big say in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figulus01 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Great article and very informative sir.I'm a user more than a maker re mods and have used the nexus extensively for a number of years.(legally) It's a great site and you should be proud.That such talented individuals should share their work to the community and free of charge is a thing of wonder and rare in these times.I like Bethesda products too but seriously worry about the direction the company is taking with regard to it's customers.Companies that become corporations end up employing more accountants and lawyers than they do artists and that can't be a good thing..ever.:)Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElRizzo Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 In response to post #39476160. PublicDisgrace wrote: "If you disagree then you’re a part of some extreme-right side of the “PC Master Race"Lmao, I didn't think I'd see the got to left-wing "ur raycist!" response on a Modding website.Uhm this quote has NOTHING to do with racism or accusations of racism AT ALL ... you are either new to the internet or you know the term "PC Master Race" which is used to mock console users sometimes sarcastically, sometimes not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead4110 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Give me your address so i can come hang your ugly ass.Not joking, if i can do it il f*#@ing kill your ugly mug.Its cockroaches like you who enabled dlc in the first place and you aint taking modding from us this time you little s#*!, il hunt your f*#@ing ass if i have to. User banned by Vagrant0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeardman Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) while i plan on getting a ps4 soon ( the new god of war looked sweet ) i wont get skyrim remastered for it until they have these issues cleared up i dont want to get any mod downloaded and find out is was stolen ... and on the subject of " consoles dont deserve mods " thats just stupid i didnt get a gaming pc so that i could be " better than the console peasants " ( i always found the term console peasants to be dumb but funny in the right context ) i got one because i cant mod a 360 and be able to " legally " play online games as well and if the console start getting mods that just makes the games that much better and makes room for more game companies to have a reason to let console gamers get mod support the only thing i have against it would be people trying to use mods to cheat in competitive online games which i deeply despise Edited June 17, 2016 by manbeardman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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