I'm a black ex-cop, and this is the real truth about race and policing

[kvnchrist]

Being close friends with several police officers and WV State Police I can tell you what myself and most of them think about this, at least to start. Now knowing this isn't 100% the reason or cure but it sure helps...You get what you pay for.

 

Officers in more populated areas and areas where drug trafficking takes place typically will face more dangerous situations. They will often work longer hours to stretch the budgets of the already stretched.

 

Now I am not saying that most officers aren't hard working and able individuals. I think that many, if not most are. However if you are paying people to put their lives on the line day after day...if you want the best available you are going to have to pay them better than they are paid. Having people with good training, education and other necessities for these positions involves money. I know many folks are looking at it all backward...cops are corrupt and do not perform well....why should they get more money. That is ignoring the issue and putting the donkey before the cart. You have to be able to pay police officers a good wage that will compensate them for the danger and stress in which they find themselves daily. You have to have money to be able to give officers continuous and better training to handle high-stress situations. You have to be able to hire enough of them that they are not too overworked or too stressed and have adequate backup.

 

I completely believe that there are prejudice cops. That goes without saying. And no matter what you pay them there probably will be. But you can mitigate these things. You can have the training and ability to replace officers who are showing themselves incapable of holding that thin, blue line with only courage and conviction and not corruption. Paying these folks so little, having so few of them and not being able to train them properly, have proper evaluations and access to proper mental health services will only eventually, even with officers with the best of intent, lead to what we are seeing. The best that West Virginia has (and they used to be some of the best performing and best trained in the country) the State Troopers make on median $30,000 per year. That is less than $15 an hour on a 40hr a week schedule. You think they only work 40 hours a week?. Now there are troopers that make much more and some less. But on average...there you go. Now the standard of living here is lower than many places, but still. My husband, who works hard for his money, but nonetheless works a desk job makes more than these men and women.

 

I saw an interview with the head of police in Dallas (a black man if that is necessary to know) and he said these men make "40K a year" so even in a place with a much higher standard of living the average police office in Dallas, who lost members...who stood their ground and protected people to the loss of their own lives for $40,000 a year. I wouldn't. Would you?

 

So if you want more, better trained, less corruptible police that are more adaptable, less stressed and hopefully with less prejudice you have to pay them. In my opinion police, firefighters, EMS/Rescue and teachers should make more money than pretty much anyone else. We rely on these people to get us from danger, save our lives and teach our children every, single day. We don't thank them or acknowledge them until something like this happens and far too often it is only the bad we acknowledge and not the good they do. I am not saying to ignore these bad things, of course not. And I am well aware that a paycheck doesn't cure all ills. But maybe if we traded all the money the crappy politicians make every year with the wages of police service men and women it might male a start.

 

You get what you pay for...every...single...time.

I think if you audet the powers that be, the bureaucracy and those who award contracts, you would be in a better position to determines see where the money is being spent and who is above board. I remember a certain person who was caught trying to sell President Obama's seat in the Illinois congress. These types of incidents tend to demoralize those below them and give them reason to be skeptical of anyone with even a modicum of authority.

 

The real issue in our society is what we glorify. we tend to glorify athletical prowess over those who do what we call the mondane, because we are so used to them being there. It doesn't matter hw much danger they place themselves in just to do their jobs. What matters is that we are so used to them being their we take them for granted and when some act out, that gives some people the green light to paint them all in the same light because those doing the painting have less energy to think independently than they have to spout their own prejudice.

 

We need to pay for a lot of programs that will help our society as a whole to move foreword. That includes doing hiring and training the best people for the jobs we need to be filled. open up the mental assylums and identifying those in socirty, including the homeless that have mental issues and care for them. We need to invest in better equipment and training for those people who care for our society and instill in them the desire to police up themselves and their fellow members, so that they can rid themselves of those who give there job title a bad name. I'm talking about the blue wall here.

[kvnchrist]

There are so many problems with what you propose, some of which I have already detailed, that I am not even going to bother to go any further with this.

 

Face it, NO ONE is going to invite the NG in to enforce laws, as that is EXACTLY what they will be doing. You can try and pass me off as just some prejudiced, biased, whatever, that has no clue of the reality on the ground, but, you would be wrong.

 

There is NO easy solution here. Involving the military, in any form, isn't the answer. These communities need to work from within to solve their issues. Unfortunately, they don't seem able to do so. They seem to expect the government to solve all their problems, and the government has proven terribly inept at solving anything.

If you have no arguement then leave it at that. Much, if not all has been manufatured in your mind as examples to do nothing and allow the staus qoe. Our society needs to move foreword and it can't do that if the tough decisions are not made. I would ask you to provide your own alternative programs so we could look at all the opptions, but you have concentrated on what you see as the negatives of mine without entering in any positive program that I might just agree with you about.

 

I am not an idealog with a stringent mind, but I do know how to defend myslf from a neyseyer. Being so, you've not brought anything to thr table and that is intensly unlike you, because I know your mind through several hundred discussions.

 

What is the deal with this. I have awaited what I thought would be a positive program that we could hash out with everyone else here, instead of you going completely dark on me.

 

If that is the way you've become, then I agree with you that we should not discuss this and maybe any other topic. I am very sorry you've determined not to suggest anything that might well have been better than mine, but that was your dissision, not mine.

[HeyYou]

 

There are so many problems with what you propose, some of which I have already detailed, that I am not even going to bother to go any further with this.

 

Face it, NO ONE is going to invite the NG in to enforce laws, as that is EXACTLY what they will be doing. You can try and pass me off as just some prejudiced, biased, whatever, that has no clue of the reality on the ground, but, you would be wrong.

 

There is NO easy solution here. Involving the military, in any form, isn't the answer. These communities need to work from within to solve their issues. Unfortunately, they don't seem able to do so. They seem to expect the government to solve all their problems, and the government has proven terribly inept at solving anything.

If you have no arguement then leave it at that. Much, if not all has been manufatured in your mind as examples to do nothing and allow the staus qoe. Our society needs to move foreword and it can't do that if the tough decisions are not made. I would ask you to provide your own alternative programs so we could look at all the opptions, but you have concentrated on what you see as the negatives of mine without entering in any positive program that I might just agree with you about.

 

I am not an idealog with a stringent mind, but I do know how to defend myslf from a neyseyer. Being so, you've not brought anything to thr table and that is intensly unlike you, because I know your mind through several hundred discussions.

 

What is the deal with this. I have awaited what I thought would be a positive program that we could hash out with everyone else here, instead of you going completely dark on me.

 

If that is the way you've become, then I agree with you that we should not discuss this and maybe any other topic. I am very sorry you've determined not to suggest anything that might well have been better than mine, but that was your dissision, not mine.

 

LOLOLOL

 

Now THAT is funny. I invite you to name ONE occasion where military forces were used to quell violence, that didn't turn out as a disaster.

 

I HAVE arguments, which I have stated, you are just to caught up in your own beliefs to recognize the truth when you see it. Military intervention, and that is EXACTLY what it is, is NOT the answer. You would just end up with a whole lot more dead, to no good purpose. Once the troops were gone, things would go right back to what they were before. Maybe not the same people, but, there are market forces are work there, and someone is going to come along and fill the void. Unless you propose leaving troops in place..... That should go over well.

 

Want to make things better there? Deprive them of their markets. Legalize recreational drugs. Regulate, and tax them, just like alcohol and tobacco. Use the proceeds to set up rehab centers for those that WANT to kick their habits, those that don't want to, or simply can't, will soon take care of themselves. Without markets, the gangs will have nothing to do, no revenue stream, so, no money to do anything else either. They will need to find something better to do with themselves, than sell drugs, which folks would be able to get elsewhere for less money, and better controls on quality/potency.

 

Of course, we would then need to find something for all those unemployed gangster to do... so, cancel ALL free trade agreements. Tax imports. Bring our manufacturing BACK to our shores. Maybe then some of the once prosperous cities that have since basically disappeared, or, descended into the chaos we see in places like Chicago, Detroit, Flint, etc, will start improving. Is that 'isolationist'? Perhaps, but, american workers simply cannot compete with third-world countries with citizens that are willing to work for a couple bucks per day. STOP improving China's economy at the expense of our own. Stop selling off bits and pieces of our country to foreign investors.

 

The problem there is, the rich folks won't like it. And as they are the ones that pretty much control government, it won't happen. So, look forward to our society continuing its death spiral down into economic collapse.

[kvnchrist]

 

 

There are so many problems with what you propose, some of which I have already detailed, that I am not even going to bother to go any further with this.

 

Face it, NO ONE is going to invite the NG in to enforce laws, as that is EXACTLY what they will be doing. You can try and pass me off as just some prejudiced, biased, whatever, that has no clue of the reality on the ground, but, you would be wrong.

 

There is NO easy solution here. Involving the military, in any form, isn't the answer. These communities need to work from within to solve their issues. Unfortunately, they don't seem able to do so. They seem to expect the government to solve all their problems, and the government has proven terribly inept at solving anything.

If you have no arguement then leave it at that. Much, if not all has been manufatured in your mind as examples to do nothing and allow the staus qoe. Our society needs to move foreword and it can't do that if the tough decisions are not made. I would ask you to provide your own alternative programs so we could look at all the opptions, but you have concentrated on what you see as the negatives of mine without entering in any positive program that I might just agree with you about.

 

I am not an idealog with a stringent mind, but I do know how to defend myslf from a neyseyer. Being so, you've not brought anything to thr table and that is intensly unlike you, because I know your mind through several hundred discussions.

 

What is the deal with this. I have awaited what I thought would be a positive program that we could hash out with everyone else here, instead of you going completely dark on me.

 

If that is the way you've become, then I agree with you that we should not discuss this and maybe any other topic. I am very sorry you've determined not to suggest anything that might well have been better than mine, but that was your dissision, not mine.

 

LOLOLOL

 

Now THAT is funny. I invite you to name ONE occasion where military forces were used to quell violence, that didn't turn out as a disaster.

 

I HAVE arguments, which I have stated, you are just to caught up in your own beliefs to recognize the truth when you see it. Military intervention, and that is EXACTLY what it is, is NOT the answer. You would just end up with a whole lot more dead, to no good purpose. Once the troops were gone, things would go right back to what they were before. Maybe not the same people, but, there are market forces are work there, and someone is going to come along and fill the void. Unless you propose leaving troops in place..... That should go over well.

 

Want to make things better there? Deprive them of their markets. Legalize recreational drugs. Regulate, and tax them, just like alcohol and tobacco. Use the proceeds to set up rehab centers for those that WANT to kick their habits, those that don't want to, or simply can't, will soon take care of themselves. Without markets, the gangs will have nothing to do, no revenue stream, so, no money to do anything else either. They will need to find something better to do with themselves, than sell drugs, which folks would be able to get elsewhere for less money, and better controls on quality/potency.

 

Of course, we would then need to find something for all those unemployed gangster to do... so, cancel ALL free trade agreements. Tax imports. Bring our manufacturing BACK to our shores. Maybe then some of the once prosperous cities that have since basically disappeared, or, descended into the chaos we see in places like Chicago, Detroit, Flint, etc, will start improving. Is that 'isolationist'? Perhaps, but, american workers simply cannot compete with third-world countries with citizens that are willing to work for a couple bucks per day. STOP improving China's economy at the expense of our own. Stop selling off bits and pieces of our country to foreign investors.

 

The problem there is, the rich folks won't like it. And as they are the ones that pretty much control government, it won't happen. So, look forward to our society continuing its death spiral down into economic collapse.

 

I asked you for suggestions that we could hash over and All you give me is sarcasm and negativity that I could expel as quickly as your other paranoid fabrications. You talk about me having beliefs, when it is you that has beliefs.Beliefs in an ideology that military force will never bring good, when all the examples you brought out were situations that were of chaos being brought to the knees of order by that same military force. What I have is hope in the future that can only begin when order is established. That can't be accomplished unless the forces that thrive from the chaos aren't subdued.

 

You speak of what these gang members will do and you ignore the very programs that I've suggested after the NG has done it's work. There are chooses to be made and those who had had little options other than gang violence will have those choices open to the and the opportunities that they can exploit by making those choices.

[HeyYou]

 

 

 

There are so many problems with what you propose, some of which I have already detailed, that I am not even going to bother to go any further with this.

 

Face it, NO ONE is going to invite the NG in to enforce laws, as that is EXACTLY what they will be doing. You can try and pass me off as just some prejudiced, biased, whatever, that has no clue of the reality on the ground, but, you would be wrong.

 

There is NO easy solution here. Involving the military, in any form, isn't the answer. These communities need to work from within to solve their issues. Unfortunately, they don't seem able to do so. They seem to expect the government to solve all their problems, and the government has proven terribly inept at solving anything.

If you have no arguement then leave it at that. Much, if not all has been manufatured in your mind as examples to do nothing and allow the staus qoe. Our society needs to move foreword and it can't do that if the tough decisions are not made. I would ask you to provide your own alternative programs so we could look at all the opptions, but you have concentrated on what you see as the negatives of mine without entering in any positive program that I might just agree with you about.

 

I am not an idealog with a stringent mind, but I do know how to defend myslf from a neyseyer. Being so, you've not brought anything to thr table and that is intensly unlike you, because I know your mind through several hundred discussions.

 

What is the deal with this. I have awaited what I thought would be a positive program that we could hash out with everyone else here, instead of you going completely dark on me.

 

If that is the way you've become, then I agree with you that we should not discuss this and maybe any other topic. I am very sorry you've determined not to suggest anything that might well have been better than mine, but that was your dissision, not mine.

 

LOLOLOL

 

Now THAT is funny. I invite you to name ONE occasion where military forces were used to quell violence, that didn't turn out as a disaster.

 

I HAVE arguments, which I have stated, you are just to caught up in your own beliefs to recognize the truth when you see it. Military intervention, and that is EXACTLY what it is, is NOT the answer. You would just end up with a whole lot more dead, to no good purpose. Once the troops were gone, things would go right back to what they were before. Maybe not the same people, but, there are market forces are work there, and someone is going to come along and fill the void. Unless you propose leaving troops in place..... That should go over well.

 

Want to make things better there? Deprive them of their markets. Legalize recreational drugs. Regulate, and tax them, just like alcohol and tobacco. Use the proceeds to set up rehab centers for those that WANT to kick their habits, those that don't want to, or simply can't, will soon take care of themselves. Without markets, the gangs will have nothing to do, no revenue stream, so, no money to do anything else either. They will need to find something better to do with themselves, than sell drugs, which folks would be able to get elsewhere for less money, and better controls on quality/potency.

 

Of course, we would then need to find something for all those unemployed gangster to do... so, cancel ALL free trade agreements. Tax imports. Bring our manufacturing BACK to our shores. Maybe then some of the once prosperous cities that have since basically disappeared, or, descended into the chaos we see in places like Chicago, Detroit, Flint, etc, will start improving. Is that 'isolationist'? Perhaps, but, american workers simply cannot compete with third-world countries with citizens that are willing to work for a couple bucks per day. STOP improving China's economy at the expense of our own. Stop selling off bits and pieces of our country to foreign investors.

 

The problem there is, the rich folks won't like it. And as they are the ones that pretty much control government, it won't happen. So, look forward to our society continuing its death spiral down into economic collapse.

 

I asked you for suggestions that we could hash over and All you give me is sarcasm and negativity that I could expel as quickly as your other paranoid fabrications. You talk about me having beliefs, when it is you that has beliefs.Beliefs in an ideology that military force will never bring good, when all the examples you brought out were situations that were of chaos being brought to the knees of order by that same military force. What I have is hope in the future that can only begin when order is established. That can't be accomplished unless the forces that thrive from the chaos aren't subdued.

 

You speak of what these gang members will do and you ignore the very programs that I've suggested after the NG has done it's work. There are chooses to be made and those who had had little options other than gang violence will have those choices open to the and the opportunities that they can exploit by making those choices.

 

Wow. And once again, you are so far off base, that I just don't know what to say. So, I am not going to say anything. I am out.

[kvnchrist]

 

 

 

 

There are so many problems with what you propose, some of which I have already detailed, that I am not even going to bother to go any further with this.

 

Face it, NO ONE is going to invite the NG in to enforce laws, as that is EXACTLY what they will be doing. You can try and pass me off as just some prejudiced, biased, whatever, that has no clue of the reality on the ground, but, you would be wrong.

 

There is NO easy solution here. Involving the military, in any form, isn't the answer. These communities need to work from within to solve their issues. Unfortunately, they don't seem able to do so. They seem to expect the government to solve all their problems, and the government has proven terribly inept at solving anything.

If you have no arguement then leave it at that. Much, if not all has been manufatured in your mind as examples to do nothing and allow the staus qoe. Our society needs to move foreword and it can't do that if the tough decisions are not made. I would ask you to provide your own alternative programs so we could look at all the opptions, but you have concentrated on what you see as the negatives of mine without entering in any positive program that I might just agree with you about.

 

I am not an idealog with a stringent mind, but I do know how to defend myslf from a neyseyer. Being so, you've not brought anything to thr table and that is intensly unlike you, because I know your mind through several hundred discussions.

 

What is the deal with this. I have awaited what I thought would be a positive program that we could hash out with everyone else here, instead of you going completely dark on me.

 

If that is the way you've become, then I agree with you that we should not discuss this and maybe any other topic. I am very sorry you've determined not to suggest anything that might well have been better than mine, but that was your dissision, not mine.

 

LOLOLOL

 

Now THAT is funny. I invite you to name ONE occasion where military forces were used to quell violence, that didn't turn out as a disaster.

 

I HAVE arguments, which I have stated, you are just to caught up in your own beliefs to recognize the truth when you see it. Military intervention, and that is EXACTLY what it is, is NOT the answer. You would just end up with a whole lot more dead, to no good purpose. Once the troops were gone, things would go right back to what they were before. Maybe not the same people, but, there are market forces are work there, and someone is going to come along and fill the void. Unless you propose leaving troops in place..... That should go over well.

 

Want to make things better there? Deprive them of their markets. Legalize recreational drugs. Regulate, and tax them, just like alcohol and tobacco. Use the proceeds to set up rehab centers for those that WANT to kick their habits, those that don't want to, or simply can't, will soon take care of themselves. Without markets, the gangs will have nothing to do, no revenue stream, so, no money to do anything else either. They will need to find something better to do with themselves, than sell drugs, which folks would be able to get elsewhere for less money, and better controls on quality/potency.

 

Of course, we would then need to find something for all those unemployed gangster to do... so, cancel ALL free trade agreements. Tax imports. Bring our manufacturing BACK to our shores. Maybe then some of the once prosperous cities that have since basically disappeared, or, descended into the chaos we see in places like Chicago, Detroit, Flint, etc, will start improving. Is that 'isolationist'? Perhaps, but, american workers simply cannot compete with third-world countries with citizens that are willing to work for a couple bucks per day. STOP improving China's economy at the expense of our own. Stop selling off bits and pieces of our country to foreign investors.

 

The problem there is, the rich folks won't like it. And as they are the ones that pretty much control government, it won't happen. So, look forward to our society continuing its death spiral down into economic collapse.

 

I asked you for suggestions that we could hash over and All you give me is sarcasm and negativity that I could expel as quickly as your other paranoid fabrications. You talk about me having beliefs, when it is you that has beliefs.Beliefs in an ideology that military force will never bring good, when all the examples you brought out were situations that were of chaos being brought to the knees of order by that same military force. What I have is hope in the future that can only begin when order is established. That can't be accomplished unless the forces that thrive from the chaos aren't subdued.

 

You speak of what these gang members will do and you ignore the very programs that I've suggested after the NG has done it's work. There are chooses to be made and those who had had little options other than gang violence will have those choices open to the and the opportunities that they can exploit by making those choices.

 

Wow. And once again, you are so far off base, that I just don't know what to say. So, I am not going to say anything. I am out.

 

Dude I could close this out with afew words of my own, but it's up to those reading this to determine who was offering up anything wpositive and who was not. I'm not going to return your passive aggressiveness ending as it is not about you and I. It never was. I'm simply going to wish you a good day and seek out others to converse with.

[DOOMBASED]

This thread has taken a wild turn from what the OP originally posted. It is no question that police abuse their power... they have been doing it forever, it is just the fact that now it is more accessible to the masses because of social media and everyone having a camera in their pockets. The problem is not black people at all. The problem is the police and how they can pretty much get away with murder. No matter what a person did, no matter what their race, if they are unarmed and not a deadly threat they should be taken down without deadly force. Too many police officers shoot first and ask questions later, and too many "good" police officers turn their cheeks to what "bad" cops do. You never see a cop testify against another cop that they shot an unarmed assailant and killed them. It is a brotherhood built on power abuse.

 

Also, if you have never dealt with the police first hand, I do not think you should comment on their characters. I have dealt with the police since I was a teenager, yes I have done things I might regret now, but i have seen the police beat a 16 years old kid into the hospital because he was calling them pigs. Totally unnecessary and those police should have been in jail for doing that but none were ever charged with anything. The system is corrupt. You will find plenty of police explaining how they are told to target people of color, and if they do not meet their quotas by the end of the month innocent people are harassed just for being a different color. Even black police do this.

 

What America is going through right now is sad to say the least. It's sad seeing people killed by police, it's sad to see police being killed. It all just sucks. I often wonder how this will be told in the history books, or if it even will be at all.

[HeyYou]

Some cops abuse their power. Not all. Not even a majority. Trouble is, as you say, mass media, and everyone and their cousin with camera, it gets a LOT more press than it used to. That gives the appearance of rampant abuse. That isn't really the case.

 

Unarmed is also a relative term. Michael Brown for instance. Here he is up against a cop, he outweighs the cop by a factor of 2...... What do you expect the cop to do when he charges?

 

I have been dealing with cops for quite a while. (since before I was a teen......) I have actually worked in law enforcement. (military, different kettle of fish, I know, but, a lot of the same problems apply.) Most cops are just happy to do their job, and go home at night. I have had more positive experiences with police, than I have negative. Even when I was the target of the ire. (and most of the time, rightfully so.....) The cops that are basically a blue suit, god complex, and a gun... are the problem. Trouble is, if you have to work with/around them every day, turning them against you, by leveling any allegations of wrongdoing, can make your life a LOT more interesting. What happens when you are up against armed opponents, the the guy you accused is sent as your backup? Yeah, he is going to take his jolly sweet time showing up, and in the meantime, you are on your own. Make a name for yourself as a whistleblower, (say, your accusations where true, and someone lost their job/went to jail) that is NOT going to endear you with the rest of the force, and you end up in the same position, but, this time, it is almost EVERYONE else. Calling for backup becomes an exercise in futility. So, yes, even the "good" cops have a hard time getting rid of the 'bad' cops.

 

The entire system really is broken. Justice is neither blind, nor equal. What color you are, and how much money you have at your disposal determines what justice looks like for you. Case in point:

 

Rich, white, college kid rapes unconscious girl. He gets six months in jail.

Poor, black college kid rapes unconscious girl. He gets 15 years.....

 

That, most certainly, is NOT justice, so, is it any wonder that the people of color are somewhat leery (putting it mildly) of the police?

 

Of course, prejudice has been around longer than corrupt cops. Are some of the cops prejudiced? You bet. Are some of the black folks they encounter prejudiced? Once again, you bet. But, since blacks make up about 30 percent of the population, the represent about 60% of prison populations. Now, prejudice, and injustice can account for some of that, but, all of it? I don't think so. There IS a problem, and its one of perception. On BOTH sides of the coin.

[kvnchrist]

We don't have justice in Amerrica, we have revenge. With justice there would be reparations. We warehouse what we call undesirables for not being content with what society has determined to be their fate.

[Signette]

I've got a question. If America was stuck in the middle of Europe instead of being so incolated from the other parts of the world, whould our contry be racist.?

 

I was just thinking that the reason for such attitudes might be because of our being isolated from the rest of the world , for such a long time by the oceans that surround us.

 

I'm not trying to make excuses for it, but I'm trying to understand it, because to me I can't really fathom the attitude.

Really good question. If we look at history, we can get few things straight:

Original occupants of North America (who pushed out natives) were all kinds of people consisted of European nations mostly. Legacy of Europe were colonies, which pretty much can be translated as a form of slavery. US used black people and other representatives of different races as slaves in their country.

 

Now, to the question if USA would be less racist if it wasn't on isolated island, I think answer is: no. Because in Europe, same white people who pretty much occupies US, raised biggest racist and nationalist regime, and it wasn't only Germany, more than half of Europe was involved (I don't mention other regions outside of Europe supporting this regime too). USA has long way to walk to this level of racism in all its forms.

 

So, what am I getting at, when certain nation uses another one as slaves for very long time, and considering oppressed pop gained its rights relatively not too long ago, it's hard to imagine issue would just vaporize in the air. I'm sure some of black people still feel angry about it, and I'm sure some white people can't overcome themselves to stop looking down on them. It's very trivialized and simple-looking evaluation of attitudes, but it still be the case considering latest events. There surely might be another reason, but when you read specifically "black killed white" and vice versa, it makes you think that it's one of very valid reasons.

 

Considering cop payment issues which supposedly breeds corruption, I think it's not even half of the problem. Human is corrupt creature by nature, if anyone has access to additional resources and have power to take them without risk of backfire, most will go for it. Very few will resist the temptation, and only thing which may stop individual from it - is inevitable punishment. Corruption happens among most wealthy and rich men, it doesn't have anything to do with stress levels or working conditions.

 

And reading this thread you come to single, pretty terrible realization: there's NO solution to current situation.