Any Dwemer actually in the game?

[sedeslav]

I think that was Yagrim Bagrim in Morrowind but that was centuries ago. I don't remmember the Q with him. That was the last true RPG im oppinion.

[xlr8films]

I think that was Yagrim Bagrim in Morrowind but that was centuries ago. I don't remmember the Q with him. That was the last true RPG im oppinion.

 

I didn't play Morrowind... was Yagrim human-like? Cuz Jenassa commented once in a Dwemer ruin we were in that the Dwemer weren't short in stature historically. Then we found a small room, Master-locked, and inside was a human-like skeleton laying on a bed. I remember thinking there was no way an adventurer would lock themselves in that room and die on the bed... could have been a Dwemer skeleton....?

[Ayceman]

Dwemer weren't any shorter than an average Tamrielic race. They were probably called dwarfs by being shorter than the people who described them as such. Their disappearance is a result of their attempt to use the Heart of Lorkhan haphazardly. In one book, dwemer scientists rushed to conclude that if the operation is interrupted prematurely, there wouldn't be any ill effect. That obviously wasn't the case, so they disappeared. Yagrum was in another plane when that happened, so he escaped that fate, but he also contracted Coprus disease, which turned him into a bloated version of a Dwemer, walking on a centurion spider. Even though a side effect of Coprus is that it stops aging, I doubt that he survived the eruption of Red Mountain (in 4 years after the Oblivion crisis afaik), so there are no more Dwemer around.

 

It is interesting that they in fact did understand the less than divine nature of the 'gods' (Aedra and Daedric Princes) in TES, which is hinted by various events throughout the game's history, and that there is some other order in control of the 'gods'.

[Trey5511]

Gogo morrowind spoilers!

 

Good its not new to anyone anymore.

 

http://images.uesp.net/d/d2/MW-creature-Yagrum_Bagarn.jpg

 

Picture of him. But as stated above, he is diseased and deformed.

 

which is hinted by various events throughout the game's history, and that there is some other order in control of the 'gods'.

 

The nature of the Nine Divines(-1 to you, Aldmeri Dominion) and the Daedric Princes isn't a secret. Take a few minutes to read the many books floating around the series ;)

Edited November 21, 2011 by Trey5511

[Lachdonin]

On the shorted thing, i remember reading somewhere that the intorduction of the Dwemer to Men came through the Giants of Skyrim, who mentioned the Dwemer to the Nords. Of course, the Dwemer were shorter than the Giants (But who isn't) and they refered to them as Dwarves. The name just kinda stuck.

 

They are, in fact, a race of Elves, which as a note so are the Falmer and the Orsimer (Orcs).

[saintjimmyz]

I would imagine that island vanished under water or would have been destroyed when Red Mountain erupted, that said It would be nice to think he's still about and they've not gone completely.

 

When volcanoes erupt, the magma usually adds to the mass of the island, not making it disappear completely. Plus I think there would be significant references to a huge island disappearing, so I think its save to presume that while the ash cloud caused by the eruption of Red Mountain makes Vvardenfell a bad place to live, the island still exists and is still largely populated just as it was during the time of the blight in Morrowind.

[JimboUK]

Surely that would have raised the water level flooding the island? the effects were felt as far away as Skyrim, if what they say at the mages college is correct it was a huge geological event.

[bobfish09]

Not sure I'd want them to return to be honest, given what they did to the Snow Elves (now Falmer) and how their cities are full of horrific traps and mechanical warriors, I get the impression they are probably the most sadistic and evil race that is native to Tamriel.

 

I could be wrong of course, but I'd rather have Snow Elves back than Dwarves, given the lore about them in the game.

[evermore]

Not sure I'd want them to return to be honest, given what they did to the Snow Elves (now Falmer) and how their cities are full of horrific traps and mechanical warriors, I get the impression they are probably the most sadistic and evil race that is native to Tamriel.

 

I could be wrong of course, but I'd rather have Snow Elves back than Dwarves, given the lore about them in the game.

 

They weren't evil/sadistic, its more that they owned all of the s^&* and needed good security to keep the riff-raff out.

 

I thought the Snow Elves --> Falmer devolution occured after the end of the Dwarves, but I'm not an expert on this area of the lore, so if someone else has a source I'm sure they are right.

[Lachdonin]

The Falmer were caused by the Nords. The ancient Falmer were the ones who initially drove the Humans out of Skyrim, and Ysgramor (i probably butchered his name) returned with an army, called the 500 Companions, and put the Falmer to the sword, driving the survivors under ground. This would probably have happened in the First Age, which does mean the Falmer and Dwemer coexisted for a short time underneath the earth, but theres nothing to indicate the Dwemer did anything to cause the degneration of the Falmer.

 

As for their Centurions, their war machines and security devices. The Nords built swinging blades, those spiked grates, dart traps and the like. The Dwemer were just more sophisticated in their security devices. Theres nothing sadistic about it.