Midicow Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Hopefully Bethesda will release the kit at least before Christmas because these just texture mods aren't fufilling enough as like a real mod. To each their own I guess. I'm just incapable of figuring out how people can roleplay in a singleplayer game. I guess a little imagination here and there but it amounts to playing with interactive dolls to me. Don't take this wrong though, if you can do that sort of stuff and enjoy it, then power to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitsuneshoujo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I realise youre baiting people with that comment, but you know that playing the game without role playing is not any different. Youre still playing with interactive dolls. Just because youre not immersing yourself in the story and giving a life to your character doesnt mean youre not playing with dolls. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshotsix Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) Couldn't agree more with kitsuneshoujo on that one. I for one don't really "roleplay" in my games, however I feel like either way you're still doing the same thing just enjoying it in two different ways. So you can either enjoy playing with interactive dolls by pretending you are part of their world, or you can play with interactive dolls and pretend to be some omniscient being watching it all unfold before you. To each their own. Edited November 22, 2011 by hotshotsix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beriallord Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if they release the Skyrim patch and THEN the Creation Kit...which will only work with the patched version...thus leaving most of the pirates out in the cold. LOL It would be great if it actually worked like that, but unfortunately the pirates will get the patches eventually. There is plenty of exemples with steam pirated games getting updates like a week after it goes out, see what s going on with football manager... The 360 version was leaked about a week before release, PC version was leaked/crack by the 10th. Unfortunately pirates got to play the game before the people that pre-ordered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHammonds Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 It would be great if it actually worked like that, but unfortunately the pirates will get the patches eventually.I'm just saying that is probably one of the reasons behind the order of events. It certainly won't stop piracy. The most developers and publisher can hope to do is delay the pirating or cause them as much headache as possible. The problem is that everything they try to do to hamper the pirate through DRM actually causes more headache for legit customers. There is plenty of exemples with steam pirated games getting updates like a week after it goes out, see what s going on with football manager...I never said it would stop piracy. I would only hope that the turds that pirated Skyrim would not be able to use the CK with the version they initially acquired...that they would be forced to wait for a new cracked version and thus have to download the entire game over again...and be exposed to another potentially nasty virus that such medium is prone to produce. The 360 version was leaked about a week before release, PC version was leaked/crack by the 10th. Unfortunately pirates got to play the game before the people that pre-ordered it.Ya, so what. The people buying the games are the ones actually contributing to the game industry in such a way that more quality games of the same sort will be made in the future. Paying customers are "voting" for which kinds of games will be made tomorrow. And unfortunately, pirates are also casting votes on which games will NOT be made tomorrow. So you gotta ask yourself (rhetorical question here BTW), are you voting for a better gaming industry of tomorrow or are you voting against it? LHammonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasd1979 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 It would be great if it actually worked like that, but unfortunately the pirates will get the patches eventually.I'm just saying that is probably one of the reasons behind the order of events. It certainly won't stop piracy. The most developers and publisher can hope to do is delay the pirating or cause them as much headache as possible. The problem is that everything they try to do to hamper the pirate through DRM actually causes more headache for legit customers. There is plenty of exemples with steam pirated games getting updates like a week after it goes out, see what s going on with football manager...I never said it would stop piracy. I would only hope that the turds that pirated Skyrim would not be able to use the CK with the version they initially acquired...that they would be forced to wait for a new cracked version and thus have to download the entire game over again...and be exposed to another potentially nasty virus that such medium is prone to produce. LHammonds This may sound odd, but I pre-ordered the game, bought it, and have now been forced to crack it with a pirated executable just to play it without crashes. The 2GB memory limit was killing me on my 16GB system and the constant crashes caused by having nice pretty textures was infuriating. I saw the nice Large Address Aware mod and suddenly remembered I knew how to fix my issues. So I opened my exe with CFF edit and checked the "greater than 2GB" box. Thinking that I had fixed it, I launched the game only to get "Error 51". Turns out Steam locked out exe alterations with a DRM patch. Now nothing ticks me off quite as much as someone telling me that I can't do what I want with something that I paid for. Especially since this is a single player game and there is no real way to unfairly advantage myself. So I actually had to pirate a game I paid for just to be able to modify it to work on my computer. Go figure. This also spells potential badness for the script extender when it comes out as it modifies the code as an injector if my memory serves. If this Steam lock down is still in effect, then it will also cause the error and be unusable with legal copies. IMHO this is just a method of rewarding pirates and punishing the paying consumer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerHappyFace Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) ^ Agree. I heard about the DRM update before I played that day, so I turned went in offline mode until the CK actually comes out. DRM is stupid, but patching extra DRM in after the fact is even more so, especially if it hurts the modding community that keeps said game alive on PC. Edited November 22, 2011 by KillerHappyFace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuro1n Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if they release the Skyrim patch and THEN the Creation Kit...which will only work with the patched version...thus leaving most of the pirates out in the cold. LOLThen you woke up. : D Edited November 22, 2011 by kuro1n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdelay82 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 i could very well imagine a first big DLC coming out just before xmas, including some new content, many more bugfixes&co and the CK aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomnuke35 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 i could very well imagine a first big DLC coming out just before xmas, including some new content, many more bugfixes&co and the CK aswell The first DLC will be on 360 first they already announced that but never said what it was or if it would be exclusive only to 360(which I doubt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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