jjb54 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 From:http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun_(synth) Overhearing conversations within the Institute reveals that Shaun cannot grow up and age like a normal human, and thus will remain a child forever. So here is the question. I had heard this in the game and could not get the dialog again. But I found it confirmed in the above site. So would it be "moral" - "ethical" to allow Synth Shaun to stay alive; knowing that he will NEVER be 11 years old - 15 years old - a grown man? Would even the Railroad have to ponder this? At what point would Synth Shaun want to be "killed"? This "plot" never made sense to me. Why create a kid that would forever be a kid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossayos Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Well, let me be perfectly cynical. He makes for a nice pet. Maybe put him in a cage or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGadget1945 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Not much in the plot makes sense. If real people such as a certain named settler had been replaced by synths it would become obvious to their families over time that they weren't ageing.Why create Synth Gorillas, when we don't see any other gorillas in the Commonwealth ? They could hardly infiltrate !After the Institute is destroyed why do the Coursers bother doing anything ? There's nobody to give them missions and nowhere to return escaped synths to.Etc, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oolongdao Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 There is the chance that father uploaded his memory into synth shaun, if this is true it would be possible for him to use his knowledge to jump to older and older genetically identical bodies as time goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 There is the chance that father uploaded his memory into synth shaun, if this is true it would be possible for him to use his knowledge to jump to older and older genetically identical bodies as time goes on. Interesting thought - Except that I destroyed the Institute, so that technology is gone for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 Not much in the plot makes sense. If real people such as a certain named settler had been replaced by synths it would become obvious to their families over time that they weren't ageing.Why create Synth Gorillas, when we don't see any other gorillas in the Commonwealth ? They could hardly infiltrate !After the Institute is destroyed why do the Coursers bother doing anything ? There's nobody to give them missions and nowhere to return escaped synths to.Etc, etc. The whole Institute did not make sense. It was a good idea, but they really did not - IMO - think it through at all. Like a lot of the thoughts in FO-4, it was like 1/2 finished ideas, for what ever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greentea101 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 OP, your question sounds pretty insane to me. Working with the assumption that you think Synth Shaun is a sentient being that is alive (an assumption that is built into your question), how do you arrive at the conclusion that you (or anyone else) have any authority over his life? The idea that you have the authority to decide whether he lives or dies implies that he is your slave, which is intrinsically immoral by most standards, and makes your question irrational and kind of insane. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonslayer2k12 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Oh good grief really greentea101? By that tone, just leaving him there deactivated is just as bad too huh? I like to think that the original shaun was actually copied into the computer at a certain age and stored somewhere. As part of their experiments they created this child version of him just because they could but maybe it was original shaun's plan to leave behind a copy of his child self for the player to find, maybe he had this child shaun created after he found out he had a fatal disease? He could have thought what if player never finds him before the disease becomes terminal? What if he dies before player finds him? They could have worked that into the dialogue somehow or left it on a terminal or whatever at least but nope. Even if the institute was destroyed there are probably some storage facilities out there holding all kinds of synth parts and bodies and stored experiments. It could also simply be that they made a child synth that can grow up or at least grow to a certain adult age and then stop aging. The writing is so bad in this game we have to use our imaginations to get through most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greentea101 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Oh good grief really greentea101? By that tone, just leaving him there deactivated is just as bad too huh? Leaving him deactivated wouldn't be as immoral as killing him, but it would be immoral. It's analogous to finding a human being in a coma that was artificially induced for an immoral reason, and not waking them. Again, this is the case if you believe that Synth Shaun is a living, sentient being that's capable of self-determination. I'm not saying you should believe that, I'm just saying what I think is moral IF you believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 Leaving him deactivated wouldn't be as immoral as killing him, but it would be immoral. So you would be fine with allowing this boy to be a boy forever? Never allowed to grow up, get married, have a wife and such? You will always and only be 10 years old: PERIOD. Where is your morality in that? Better yet .. yes this is just a game ... I just found the Synth part of Shaun, curious. So put yourself in Synth Shaun's shoes. How long would you want to be 10 years old before you beg to be "shut down" - " killed "? At one point would you 'grow old and tired of being a 10 year old boy'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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