RenownedWolfman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I haven't seen it too much on the forums here recently, but it can be attributed to a number of different variables. Some people think consoles are holding games back. Some people are jealous of how easy it is to be a console player. some people are haters. Then there's blind fanboy/girlism, this is terrible when someone loves their own system for reasons that can be evenly attributed to the opposing console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I don't have anything against console players and I agree with you. There is a lot of negativity and elitism in the PC gaming community with consoles. I guess its because were just better than you :biggrin: just kidding. I find it very annoying when people make console gamers out to be stupid and say that consoles are just for kids. To me its just an easy access gaming route for people who don't want the hassle a PC might bring. I honestly see why people buy consoles and if I had the money I would probably have one myself for all the games that don't come to PC. I've always preferred PCs though so would always pick that over a console. Personally I think too much focus is given to what platform everyone plays on by other gamers. If your happy then why care if someone prefers a pad or a mouse, or if they would rather have an Xbox, PC or PS3. In a lot of ways consoles do hold games back in terms of things like graphics, effects and physics. But I also believe they have their place and do in fact help in a lot of ways too. For a start they rake in money and make gaming more popular and less thought of as a geeky hobby, which has some negatives, but in general is very positive for the industry and future games. They also force devolopers to think more on gameplay rather than selling a game because it uses some random DX11 feature. I do believe that developers should develop on PC first and foremost for cross platform games. That way they can make a game to the highest quality available at the time and scale it down for consoles and lower end PCs. It just seems like the logical choice to me from a gaming perspective. Unfortunately though its ran through a business perspective, so the developers and publishers aim for whoever they believe will make them the most money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csgators Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) If PC sales and console sales were reversed we would be seeing much better games being released. That means when you buy console you are contributing to weaker games being developed. :whistling: Edited November 30, 2011 by csgators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirxazor Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Only problem I have with my console friends is when they say that they are better than me because they play on a controller and everyone knows controllers are the hardest thing to play with... but then again nobody force them to play with consoles and mouse / keyboard is not that easy too. It all comes down to what you are most used to and feel more comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handofbane Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I don't hate console players... well maybe a few, but they bring it on themselves. :whistling: That said, much of the hate is just misdirected. Any hate toward consoles should be aimed directly at the developers, not the players - it is because developers are wanting to milk every last penny out of software that can play on 5-7 year old hardware that we see such stagnation in the game market today. Does that mean console players are holding game development back? Not really, it does mean that consoles themselves are part of the problem, though, especially with neither of the big two planning to release an actual next gen console any time soon, which directly impedes taking advantage of newer technologies in game development by any company that wants to see much of a profit off their planned game releases. There are companies out there that *do* take advantage of those technologies, and focus primarily on a PC market, but they are few and far between, and nobody can truly call them large companies either - ones like CD Projekt, Paradox Interactive, Kerberos, and so on. Most of those are not US based companies either, (Poland, Sweden, and Canuckistan respectively) which puts an interesting idea into play that while the US may crank out the most profitable games, they are slowly giving up the software technological lead to some European companies. A big part of the bad rap given to console players is the idea that they are most likely to be "must have it now, not gonna wait down the line", which isn't helped by the fact that buying any new console today, plus games actually *isn't* saving as much as it appears to be over buying a PC with games in the long run. What I mean by that - a console itself is cheaper than a PC (though admit it, you don't need a $3000 monster to run 95% of games today, you can get by in a $800 rig or cheaper and still run on Medium/High), but the games for consoles almost consistently run $10-20 more than their PC counterparts... Skyrim being the exception, sadly. Throw in regular things like Steam sales (or Gamersgate/Direct2Drive/etc) and compare the regular savings on those (20-75%) vs the whopping 5-20% you save buying a used console game from Gamestop/Game/EB, and the difference shifts dramatically the more games you buy. But none of that will really change until game developers actually get it through their skulls that Marketing is holding back Development in the name of "well, let's crank out one more clone, because the last one sold so well to people who don't know better!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brittainy Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I wouldn't say I hate console users. :whistling: But I hate consoles. They're inferior and they encourage developers to make shitty ports to the pc. It's fine if people want to use consoles, but the avid defenders of them get up my nose a bit. Well...a lot, actually. I dropped out of the console scene around 1996...and nothing that has developed since then has made me regret it or wish to return to it. They just can't compete with a pc. And it's sad to see what should be marvellous games look and play like absolute garbage on the pc due to the fact they've been ported over from a hunk of out-dated junk. Anyhow, I'm not a console-user-hater, per se. But consoles are second - if not third - rate, and those who think they aren't are - at the very least - a wee bit delusional. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneWing Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It's just that consoles pose a threat to the future of PC gaming... But in reality most people's gaming experience started on consoles. I love PC gaming, but if it were not for Nintendo Entertainment System...I might be a lost soul today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soot00 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) Haha I've actually never asked that before, all I do is just play the game like it's suppossed to be played Lot of ideas incorporated into released games come directly from modders. Harvesting flora actually removing the plant graphic was originally done by a ModderIron sights which was modded in Fallout 3 was incorporated on the released version of New VegasStim packs having a heal over time effect was modded for Fallout 3 was incorporated on the released version of New Vegas List goes on and on.... Edited November 30, 2011 by soot00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handofbane Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 But in reality most people's gaming experience started on consoles. I love PC gaming, but if it were not for Nintendo Entertainment System...I might be a lost soul today.I have the Atari 2600 to thank for my current addiction. Consoles are a gateway drug, some people just stick to them because "they are safe", others move on to more hardcore things like PCs, modding, and overclocking. :dance: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenownedWolfman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 But in reality most people's gaming experience started on consoles. I love PC gaming, but if it were not for Nintendo Entertainment System...I might be a lost soul today.I have the Atari 2600 to thank for my current addiction. Consoles are a gateway drug, some people just stick to them because "they are safe", others move on to more hardcore things like PCs, modding, and overclocking. :dance: You know it, started out on nintendo 64, now i'm almost exclusively a PC player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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