gamefever Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) @ Evilslay3r5 So for clarity sake are you pro Steam, on the fence, or against I guess is the obvoius question. I'd also like to point out that I use steam...Gasp But I seroiusly think it's got a bag of flaws. I definately can say for a fact that the DLC content that Steam offers for it's computer gamers far far pales in comparisson to the free DLC that we get here on Nexus for Free. Not to mention what you can do with the free DLC if you know what your doing for yourself. To make an example Shogun 2 is currently offering a $2 DLC that adds blood to the game. Blood for $2. They are adding blood, I mean man that's like something that should have been patched in. With a payment model in place it won't be too long before someone can say "We'll just have to wait for modders to make our game golden." I know overused statement that some claim with every moddable game but I threw it in there. Edited December 2, 2011 by gamefever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilslay3r5 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) @ Evilslay3r5 So for clarity sake are you pro Steam, on the fence, or against I guess is the obvoius question. I'd also like to point out that I use steam...Gasp But I seroiusly think it's got a bag of flaws. I definately can say for a fact that the DLC content that Steam offers for it's computer gamers far far pales in comparisson to the free DLC that we get here on Nexus for Free. Not to mention what you can do with the free DLC if you know what your doing for yourself. To make an example Shogun 2 is currently offering a $2 DLC that adds blood to the game. Blood for $2. They are adding blood. I consider Steam to be an abomination on the face of PC gaming. Perhaps that answers your question. Edited December 2, 2011 by Evilslay3r5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamefever Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) @ Evilslay3r5 hey thanks for the response. I also have to agree, I really don't like the approach and the current TOS that they have it's not looking good long term for modding communties. I guess we'll know for certain with time. But as they say the writting is on the wall. Edited December 2, 2011 by gamefever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valamyr Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Sadly this doesn't say we'll have the toolset in early January. "Beginning in January" doesn't mean "early in January" but rather "From January onwards". In other words, CK could still be almost two whole months away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilibran Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Modders asking money for mods, that has some serious legal issues I think. You'll have to have a damn good disclaimer written and even then. Once you buy something from someone you engage in a legal contract with all kinds of responsibilities for both parties. There's no real international law about this and depending on what country you in live and if your a total bastard, you could demand your money back if you dont like the content. Or if you cant get it to work force the creator to give you full tech support. Offcourse this is a worst case scenario but not unthinkable. Stranger things have happened. You dont get that if you put up your stuff for free and use at your own risk that's enough for free content, but as said as soon as you start charging money you get yourself into legal territory. I think mod-users should always contribute to sites like this so the modders have a free platform to release and host their mods without having to worry about that part of the modding. That's the least you can do if you DL 200+ mods. That said, it reminds me i have to renew my subscription to Nexus next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeno Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Although it's nice to see Steam trying to incorporate the availability of user created mods into the delivery system, let's not forget that Steam is a very big company, and big companies will always have those restrictions on what you can and cannot share. For example, what if somebody made an Iron Man armor mod? It looks exactly like Iron Man's costume, colors, details, all that. I have a feeling that Steam won't be making this available to everyone due to possible legal concerns. Yes, mods that people make for fun will always be judged according to the legality of the material. It's not just legal matters that will be taken into account, but morality as well. Think about Nude Mods and Killable Children mods. Will Steam have the balls to carry those mods and deliver them to interested people? I don't think so because from a big company's point of view, it's a scandal waiting to blow up. In my personal opinion, sure, let Steam have the ability to deliver mods, but I wouldn't be using Steam to get the mods or search around. I'd be going to sites like Skyrim Nexus and others for mods that don't care about legality or morals. I want to experience mods as the creators intended them to be, not how Steam (or whoever holds the delivery system) needs you to follow their rules for your mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natelovesyou Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Skyrim is like having a super model for a girlfriend. Patch 1.2 is like finding out she used to be a man.This post...is hilarious. Made my night. [: (minus the part where I played Skyrim...of course) Edited December 2, 2011 by natelovesyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrius2 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Hmm... Steam Workshop will naturally not feature adult mods, which would in theory leave the Nexus with only one unique feature... adult mods. However, I highly doubt that the Steam Workshop will be as flexible as the tools provided by the Nexus. Will the Steam Workshop have a mod manager? Load-Order Sorting Software? Script Extender? Error and conflict reporter? Auto-updating of mods? It'll take minutes for millions of kiddos to one-click-download hundreds of mods, get over 9000 conflicts and then run crying to Valve about "MODS BROKE MY GAME BUHU" The Nexus will live on, and completely surpass anything that Steam's censored and limited system can provide. However... this Workshop Agreement about Valve getting the rights of a mod kinda scares me... I mean if they decide a mod is good and can get paid for it, it'll be taken off the Nexus and sold exclusively on the Workshop instantly. Edited December 2, 2011 by Adrius2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miraboreasu Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) However... this Workshop Agreement about Valve getting the rights of a mod kinda scares me... I mean if they decide a mod is good and can get paid for it, it'll be taken off the Nexus and sold exclusively on the Workshop instantly.So copywrite your work. Besides, I doubt Valve will attempt to sell these like that because of a certain inconsistency. Let's say someone makes a mod that adds a new faction and questline to the game, it's big, it's 20 hours + long. Let's say someone else posts it on the Steam Workshop, but the team that made it had nothing to do with that. How will steam prove the makers of the mod are the ones who submitted it? Some moron from anywhere could just submit any mod someone else made. Because of this, I HIGHLY doubt any user created content would be for sale, steam would be dealing with lawsuits left and right, perhaps even hundreds of them. Edited December 2, 2011 by Miraboreasu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrius2 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Yeah... the workshop agreement will obviously be altered to fit Skyrim modding standards. It's my inate fanboy genes compelling me to FIGHT THE POWER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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