justwannaddl Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) Its alright. The controls are finicky, the recent patches are crap and I miss a few things from Oblivion but the scenery is pretty and it has more stuff than stock Oblivion. That said, I'll probably be going back to Oblivion soon. I really like my mods. Edited December 4, 2011 by justwannaddl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkatu Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I love it and once more mods are out, I'm going to adore it.:ohdear: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindekarr Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) I toom Fort Amol tonight, full Daedric armour, dual Daedric war-axes with fire enchants, and bigger blood effects, I threw down some Frenzy spells aswell, and my armour has a damage reflect on it-the reslt was a bloodbath in every possible sense, but one I think I'll remember for a while. Ripping into the rebel ranks with ferocious abandon as an insane orgy of destruction and hate panned out around me was a lot of fun, I really did feel like a demon-tainted beserker, ripping guys to bloody shrapnel. I almost felt like a Khorne Beserker from the Warhammer universe, which is a being who devotes themself to Khorne, the blood god, and fights forever for the shear sake of hate and war, and to claim blood for their abhorrent master, a living engine ofn frenzied destruction, who's only thought, only desire, is blood for the blood god!! Even better I eventualy misclicked and transformed into a werewolf, that's when the screaming started, and I really started having fun. It was on one hand, a hideous slaughter, but it was so viceraly done, the swings had such weight, and the fight was so frenzied that it really felt... memorable and interesting. This wasn't me cutting down X number of Y, it was a bloodbath, and genuinely and palpably unique, for that, I feel blessed(perhaps by Khorne)Â If you haven't tried dual wielding yet, it's a nice system, mostly because you can, with two perks, get a damage buff and a 50% attack rate buff, this really makes big melee's crazy, doubly so with daggers, which end up swinging so quickly that powerattacks become double-hits. Edited December 4, 2011 by Vindekarr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karasuman Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 It has its high points, and it's not awful. It doesn't feel like a TES game though. If it were released as some other game I'd probably be a bit more forgiving of it. I simply don't see it as that big of an upgrade over Oblivion when I play it. I also think it panders a little too much to the console players, which is fine, because that is a sound business decision and I realize Beth is out to make a profit. But they also did this at the expense of various player freedoms and character progression. They removed a lot of things that I found fun in the previous games. As such, it grew stale for me pretty quick. Skyrim can hardly be considered an RPG at all. As someone said before, as an action game, it's good. As the latest Elder Scrolls game, it's just ok.  Long story short: They gutted too much of the skills/magic/attribute system for my taste. I predict the next game will be Call of Duty: Summerset Isles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 If Skyrim's buggy, then from where I sit, I'm either incredibly fortunate or we gamers have become incredibly spoiled. You're incredibly fortunate, Vindekarr and seriously, I am glad that it is running well for you. For me, I dare not put Steam online so as to avoid patch 1.2. Most of the people having issues are running Win 7 64 bit and have >2Gb RAM, which is not to say that everyone with that configuration is having the issues. Just that it seems to be a common theme for those that are. I played Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3 and FONV. They were all buggy, but nothing I couldn't easily solve either myself or with the aid of the fabulous modding community. Skyrim is different, the bugs with 1.2 are, from what I hear from those that ARE experiencing them, totally game breaking. Quests are broken even for those who have avoided the 1.2.  Read this: http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2011/05/10/gamers-the-spoiled-children-of-society/2/ I have to agree with some points, reminds me of some customers who expect 6-star service yet not pay for it let alone tip. However, I do agree with many gamers that the direction that the gaming industry has taken can be rather f--ked up, especially the current DRM issues and dumbed down gameplay to appeal for more people. The worse for me is DA2. WTF?! seriously I consider myself very reasonable, and I understand that people, including developers are as human as me being a business owner in the F&B industry. But the goal, always, ALWAYS have been for me customer satisfaction, and that is the trigger for my success. But ignoring the fans, ignoring the people who play the game... meh. High risk really, with the guarantee of p-ssing off a lot of people. But meh, Skyrim has been good for me so far, I rate it 8/10, and I still play it. It is a great game, but not perfect. Excellent sum of how I feel. I come to expect flawed releases from Bethesda. I take it on the chin because they give us the tools for the modders to fix it. And they give us great unrestricted worlds to explore in as haphazard and non-linear fashion as we like. But in the case of Skyrim, the flaws are worse than I have ever experienced, and the tools to fix it come with some very nasty strings attached. Like yourself, my training and ethos is to give excellent customer service, and in this case we are not getting it. For example, I worked for a company once and a batch of product was identified as contaminated. It was recalled and replaced at our expense. In an analogous situation,it would surely not have been too much to expect Bethesda and Steam between them to pull the 1.2 patch as soon as they realised that the issues were far from isolated (the patch 1.2 issues threads on the Bethsoft forums are up to at least #6). And no I am not talking about them doing the financial compen bit. They would get kudos from me if they put up their hands and said "Sorry, we fouled up", put up a 1.2 free exe (for those that did not back up. And yep, oh the DRM!!!!!!!!! I am really concerned about the CK and Steam Workshop issues. Another off putting thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPMalakye Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I genuinely love the game, in fact Skyrim is what has been eating up most of my free time. Of course the game isn't perfect, no game is...I think the majority of the problems are people get too hyped up over a game before they play it. Bethesda has done in what my opinion is a fantastic job by giving us a new Elder Scrolls title on the same generation pc/console and has clearly beat my expectations.  Most people also don't take into account the amount of content and quality that Bethesda has put into the game with the (yet again) limitations of current generation systems. Yes you can point out "Blank" game did it why cant they, but you are still missing the fact that Bethesda is making a game that is geared towards freedom and exploration and not strictly stealth, combat, etc.... All I am blabbering on about is that I think that Skyrim in itself is a excellent game that lived up to what Bethesda had promised (Unlike the Oblivion demonstration....Real Dynamic Soft Shadows my arse) Anyway.... Also take in consideration since Morrowind and Oblivion were on different generation systems they brought that "Wow" factor because of the graphical and gameplay capabilities the previous generation couldn't support. Lets face it Bethesda is getting better with its titles with time, many of the issues that Oblivion suffered from were fixed in this title such examples from mind is the Crime System (Not every Guard will chase your from Whiterun to Oblivion itself) MANY more voice actors (You can actually stand talking to people now O.o ) Harvesting things now show visual confirmations (No more walking up to that flower you forgot you picked already an hour ago only to be disappointed) and many many other improvements.  Now I am going to be quite honest here when I say I myself and many others I know could not play Oblivion unmodded (hence why I am a pc gamer lol) but when I played Skyrim I could actually enjoy the game in its entirety without the hassle of modding due to some odd game mechanic they put in or left out. When I told my relatives to buy Skyrim the first thing they said was "I dunno, Oblivion wasn't all that great" When I finally convinced them they were not disappointed. All things aside I love this title, as I am sure many of you do. Give Bethesda some time to get the bugs under control (for those of you who cannot tolerate them) and enjoy the damn game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 But you miss the point. The bugs this time are so serious that a sizeable number of people cannot enjoy the game, because they cannot play it. There have already been six or seven bug report threads on the 1.2 patch on the official forums. Some people are getting CTD after a few minutes, in some cases such as mine this is fixed by the 4gb fix, in others not. Some people are getting hard resets, ie total PC crashes. Even people who have had Steam offline since registering the game report broken quests. I WANT to like the game. But the release is one of the shoddiest in terms of bugs and elementary mistakes, like no 64 bit inherent compatibility, that I have experienced, and we get the distinct impression that Bethesda are more bothered about leaping in with Steam than about fixing the bugs...Creation Kit hoohah for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSki Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I kept reading these forums and the official ones as well and I was kind of worried but the general rule is that more people with problems post than those who don't have any I took the risk bought the game and so far no problems on my pc and I am enjoying it 8.5/10 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch3r1 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Does anyone here like Skyrim? (We should add: and why that?). I have played morrowind, oblivion, and now for 1 week skyrim. What i love in all elder series are the very good graphics, the vocals (npcs that talk everywhere), the huge map to explore, the beautiful castles of morrowind, then oblivion, and the small castles of skyrim.. Skyrim is a good game, but the whole lead-team i think they miss few serious points from morrowind to skyrim, and thez points ill try to express here. ok from morrowind 3 to skyrim we talk about good stuff, but the missing ill try to express here is still missing by my view. it is a game that can give you plenty of pleasure and exploration but all the series missing few very qq rpg points. hm so let me express my view.. "Bad things" (by my view, and im telling you i have a good view on games because im a sickening gamer(in a good way:) and i feel things on a deep level especially on rpg - rts games)..So what are these bad things ? 1) fight style - retarded npc-ai.what i mean? ill try to explain it and i believe this is the central point of a failed rpg game or a good one, sometimes may the whole package of a game wins but still, you must be able to grasp what is missing or what is "lame"..and if you dont listen-filter bad $ss players, (tons of players of all ages playing rpgs-rts games btw and many of them are expert gamers around the planetaa) the retarded battle system is boring. the same goes for the npc's ai. you play a fighter ok? and you want to feel the beating, do you know what im saying? the too much blood is lame also. you play a game not a thriller movie. so more blood is better game? no. anyway let me continew to give you a fixation (LoL). the fight system and the ai must be focused on the player view, and this view is whan i fight i give the fkn beating and i feel it.. when u have a retarded npc and it going left right doin cyrcles and hit here there i believe it is lame and boring. you must focused on the battle system, you need to give the players, the how to say it .. the "give beating - feeling mood" when they fight any kind of npcs. i mean better the npcs to have more hp and to hit you hard and you too, all the game on rpg games is the battle, the fight style, if the battle style sucks, i know many sickening rpg players that they quit a rpg game in minutes after they feel the "not giving - beating-feeling mood" on any rpg game.. ok it might a game as a whole have many ++ but without the "give-beating-feeling" a game it will be on the bad list on the future.. another thing is the npc ai, as i said above any kind of lame npcs that make cyrcles and hit here and there it is lame, boring and they break the "give-beating mood", the too much ai-npcs cyrcles system is lame around the main character and retardation hit and round and stuff.. do you know what im saying? another thing, better the main char to have more hp and str as a warrior and to be able to give the beating in a clean way not very retarded with karate moves and to much blooding bsology.. this is why wow for example, starting to fall, because he doesn't have the "focused-give-beating-feeling mood".. the best "give fight system" iever enjoyed to the bones and maybe even more.. only two games on the planet on the rpg category have them.. and these are, Lineage 2 and the Diablo series. The "give the bad beating on the npc and with fast moves but also not too lame not too much karate lame, but the clear beat-give-feel fight style mood" is what makes a game winner loser or a medium bubble.. i hope you understand what im saying..im not a pro but im trying to give you the "give-beating-fight-feeling" that a qq rpg (even rts) games must have. the diablo makers know that. if you dont have give fight style, you have a lame cyrcles style witch is boring and you make 2-3 cyrcles to try to give the beating.. rpgs is not only graphics and ok, they are "the beating-feeling-give big battles", they are exloring, they are not karate or thrillger games with too much blood and ainpc-cyrcles, and every 5-15 meters 2-3 boring mobs to hit to finish the fkn quest.. the give, the beating on mobs, many mobs, the good fight style with very intelligent characters and each one hes special powers, and not all to use the same magic, this is very lame. 2) in rpg games, you need few basic rpg things right? the skyrim i believe it was cutted in half in few things.. so in rpg games, you need strength, dexterity, armor(heavy-light-robe(mages), weapons(fighter-knight-mage-weapons+weapon levels,weapons slow attack, fast attack, very fast attack right? +how heavy is any weapon and armor or any rings-jewels) speed, mana, health, stamina, you need also a bank to save-transfer your items, you need many mobs?to beat them and feel the beating and the earning of the different somethings-items etc right? you dont need cheats rights? because every noob will use the cheat and finishe or humiliate any kind of game in 2 days max, then bye bye. cheats are another decease on the game industry..only from the cheats planetary area you can easily understand that planetaaa earth is sick. anyway you need many many many good features, bethesda have for me the 7.8. if he change the lame battle system and make it a hardcore rpg with stable and beating mood battle and not all skills and spells to all the players-classes it will be great... and im thinking now, this company, can make sick graphics, sick huge maps, nice-cool mobs, sick vocals, sick scenarios, nice npcs, sickening(i mean qq very good stuff) castles-towns(at least on morrowind and oblivion), on skyrim towns and middle cities downgraded like the menu-attributes + many other features go off, any suicider there? (LoL) and im asking my self, wtf.. you know, on one side you can create diamonds and on the other side you cut it in the middle? whats the point? anyway i can express a lot of thoughts because i cannot live without a good 2hours rpg gaming everyday for years....okk this is my first post on this forum (new member here hehhe). and the later im out. i hope you can grasp exactly what i mean, after that, the diamond will stay diamond but the battle and cyrcles system, must change for me 100%. thats my view... Boo =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnfnx Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I like the game, a hundred plus hours in and on my second character. I am however somewhat underwhelmed, bugs aside I feel the game is unfinished, left for the dlcs or mods to get it even close, ok same continent as the hype. At this point for me I do not see the longevity like with Oblivion or FO3, but too they are what brought me over to pc, my first loves. Their console versions just sit and collect dust. Their pc counterparts are admittedly heavily modded, so wait and see my opinion may change. Hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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