RS13 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I'm saying that *first step* into PC gaming is intimidating. -snip- I just look for a decent CPU, decent ram and add a mid market GPU to the mix. All in all it cost me about 450 Euros. That's equal or even less than a console costs. With the added beneift of being in charge of your hardware and what software you want to admit as opposed to the manufacturer. Did you read what I wrote? I wasn't talking about money; I was talking about having to learn what "decent cpu, decent ram and a mid market gpu" even *are* and about the dozens of other things you have to learn before you decide on your components. Like I said before While there are a lot of good guides out there, there are--duh!--a *lot* of them. Information overload is part of the issue. The average console gamer couldn't even name all the parts in a gaming PC (I certainly couldn't!). There's so much to learn and google returns so many articles and features no "sort for novices" feature... it just is overwhelming. Now, once you've built your first PC, it gets much easier, but it's understandable why that first step would deter some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanity Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I'm saying that *first step* into PC gaming is intimidating. -snip- I just look for a decent CPU, decent ram and add a mid market GPU to the mix. All in all it cost me about 450 Euros. That's equal or even less than a console costs. With the added beneift of being in charge of your hardware and what software you want to admit as opposed to the manufacturer. Did you read what I wrote? I wasn't talking about money; I was talking about having to learn what "decent cpu, decent ram and a mid market gpu" even *are* and about the dozens of other things you have to learn before you decide on your components. Like I said before While there are a lot of good guides out there, there are--duh!--a *lot* of them. Information overload is part of the issue. The average console gamer couldn't even name all the parts in a gaming PC (I certainly couldn't!). There's so much to learn and google returns so many articles and features no "sort for novices" feature... it just is overwhelming. Now, once you've built your first PC, it gets much easier, but it's understandable why that first step would deter some people. You are talking rubbish (and its 'funny' how many anti-PC posters manage to be so OBTUSE when talking about PC builds). A GAMING PC is a 4-core i5 (any but 3GH+ is the target) with 8GB or more of ANY RAM, with a 500W or better PSU (not the dirt cheap no-brand variety), and with a 4GB 470/290/390/980 (or better from either Nvidia or AMD) GPU. Sane OS is Win7 64 bit. Sorry, what is possibly 'confusing' or 'difficult' about that spec. So-called non-experts need to keep to a SAFE spec like this to get the gaming experience they expect at 1080P. It only gets 'confusing' when people claim a need to listen to idiots promoting things like Intel's i3 or any current AMD CPU (and I speak as a big AMD fan), or non-future proof GPUs with less than 4GB. Your PC gaming build is an investment in your next three years+ of gaming (most people don't want to go to the trouble and expense of constantly changing elements of their PC). Motherboard needs to be one Googling suggests peeps find to be trouble free. Your case should be one reviews state can easily be worked with- tho that usually means something BIGGER than many seem to want. Anybody who speaks from a FANBOY point of view with respect to a PC build can be safely IGNORED (you'll notice I insisted on an Intel 4-core i5 even tho I will happily say i despise Intel) - because proper advice must be technically correct and free from personal predudice. So you have learnt EVERYTHING you need to know about a currently correct gaming build from the minute it took to read this post. PS I know many of you PC gamers game on MUCH lower specs than I describe here. So did I when playing FO4. That's not the point. Someone who is serious about getting into PC gaming, who wants the BEST solution a REASONABLE spend will give is not well advised to consider the out-of-date specs of people currently gaming on OLD PC solutions- now that is CONFUSING and unhelpful advice (the ole "it works for me so it must be good enough for you" foolishness). ONCE AGAIN: i5 3GHz+, 8GB+ or RAM, 4GB 470 or better GPU, win7-64 bit (win8/win10 are newer but require MORE technical expertise to stay on top of- but use if you must, although there will always be a free upgrade path to win10 under Microsoft's ASSISTED TECHNOLOGY rules). The ONLY part of a correctly specced gaming PC that currently ages is the GPU, yet people who invested in a 4GB 290 when it first appeared are going to be able to enjoy FIVE YEARS+ of excellent 1080P gaming- and that disproves the NONSENSE about good gaming PCs needing constant expensive 'upgrades'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS13 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Oh, zanity. I've missed your needlessly aggressive, self-indulgent, delusionally pretentious rants dosed with a liberal dose of ALL THE CAPS. Wait, no. No I haven't. No one has. Edited September 19, 2016 by RS13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EveningTide Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) PSUs are tricky even if they are "branded". It can be labeled Consair for example.. but be built by an off-brand manufacturer -.-. That was the case with my old 750W which died within 3 months. Where as the replacement "true"(labeled and manufactured by) Seasonic 550W has finally started failing after 6 yrs.But to back up what most others have said here.. you don't need a 1000+ PC to run Beths games. You hear about those PCs mainly from people who run more than just 1 PC game that call for higher specs. Edited September 19, 2016 by EveningTide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS13 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 You anti-PC FANBOY! ANYTHING you say can be SAFELY IGNORED! Proper ADVICE must be free of your PREJUDICE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Anybody who speaks from a FANBOY point of view with respect to a PC build can be safely IGNORED (you'll notice I insisted on an Intel 4-core i5 even tho I will happily say i despise Intel) - because proper advice must be technically correct and free from personal predudice.I lol'd considering your advice is the definition of being a fanboy :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmt12 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Oh god, what have I started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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