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Happened today, constantly past a certain point when Steam was acting up today.

Basically, I'd play for a certain amount of time(usually an hour or so), get to a certain point, then the game would suddenly, and without warning, crash to a black screen then to desktop very quickly.

I'd re-load and try to load the save I made before the crash, and it'd crash again. I'd try loading the save game before that one, crash.

I ended up losing two hours of time, and about nine saves(manual saves, mind you) to reload a save that would actually work. Figuring maybe a mod had screwed up that area, I disabled my mods.

I played some more, reached a certain point, same deal, crashed to desktop, saves would crash on load.

Figuring it might be the area I was playing in(Dawnstar, by the lighthouse), I moved onto Winterhold, reached Alftand, went into the ruined tower, got to the trap button on the desk, turned it on, took two steps, game crashed, save crashes on load, and I lost eight saves this time.

I replicated it step-for-step in thirty minutes(I was tired of losing progress), and got the EXACT SAME result, I turn on the trap, move towards it, game crashes, saves can't be loaded and crash, losing fifteen minutes and all of my saves but two in that play-session.

 

Has anyone run into this before? Is this a new bug thanks to the patches? Is there a solution?

 

I run Skyrim with the 4GB launcher, SKSE(latest version), and normally run about six light-weight mods. I have never had crashing issues this serious before, only random crashes everyone else likely gets, and not often at that.

 

I run Skyrim on a Windows 7, 64-bit PC, 12gb of RAM, Nvidia GT 580 card.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Black screens and sudden purple textures are usually the result of running out of VRAM. Regardless of whether you have the 1.5gb or 3gb version of the 580 this shouldn't be happening to you. It sounds like your video drivers got corrupted (it happens sometimes.) Go ahead and do a clean sweep of your old drivers and then reinstall them again ( maybe upgrade to the latest beta 290.36 that can activate Ambient Occlusion if you want.)

 

I'd advise you to follow this guide to the letter - http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1174372 - I know it's very long but it contains a wealth of information, even tribal knowledge but when I did this with my 480 even FONV stopped giving me any problems so it is well worth it!

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Other games are better coded and not as hardware heavy as Beth games. The engine was written 11 years ago and "improved" over the years with each new patch and each new game. This time it was supposed to be a 'new engine, created by Bethsoft from the ground up.' (Or something to that effect, I just paraphrased it.) In fact they simply modified the old Havok/Gamebryo engine again. This wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if done properly by replacing old with new code. However the track they seem to have to continued is simply to add new code over old code (called 'kludging') resulting in a mishmash of probably untraceable broken references and hard to decipher pages upon pages of program code.

 

Now before we start another round of 'Shame on you Bethesda' let's keep in mind that Beth works for Zenimax and Zenimax controls the amount of money Beth gets to produce games. I'm sure Beth is trying to make the best of a bad situation but the fact that Beth brings in billions of dollars anyway (over the years) just the way things are doesn't provide a compelling financial reason to change anything through new investment.

 

[Down off the soapbox...]

 

Anyway, corrupted drivers are one way to create corrupted save games, bad programming code (memory leakage) is another as well as bad code corrupting drivers in the first place. We can correct the first one by reinstalling our drivers once they're corrupted, we can mitigate the second by one quitting to desktop, shutting down our computers for a short time before booting back up but only Beth can rectify the entire situation by properly cleaning and updating their code.

 

Or...modders will come to the rescue and straighten everything up the best they can, as they always do for Beth games so Beth and Zenimax don't have to spend a dime.

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Black screens and sudden purple textures are usually the result of running out of VRAM. Regardless of whether you have the 1.5gb or 3gb version of the 580 this shouldn't be happening to you. It sounds like your video drivers got corrupted (it happens sometimes.) Go ahead and do a clean sweep of your old drivers and then reinstall them again ( maybe upgrade to the latest beta 290.36 that can activate Ambient Occlusion if you want.)

 

I'd advise you to follow this guide to the letter - http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1174372 - I know it's very long but it contains a wealth of information, even tribal knowledge but when I did this with my 480 even FONV stopped giving me any problems so it is well worth it!

 

I have similar issues.. do you have Proudspire.esm mod installed for instance..? For me clearly this mod started to cause the CTD (crash to desktop) after like 50-60 hours of gameplay with no issue. I disabled the mod, started with an earlier savegame (lost 1-2 levels, quests and game time) but now I'm able to play without contstant CDTs.. Try it.. works..

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