maniczombie Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Is it possible to download a mod for oblivion and re-import it into Skyrim and then share it as a download link in chat but not release it as a mod on skyrimnexus.com without the origonal mod creators permission or would that be seen as wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnie Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 It is wrong, yes. You should not be sharing anything you converted if it isn't yours and you have not gotten permission in some way from the original author(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniczombie Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Ok, glad I could clarify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matth85 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Is it possible to download a mod for oblivion and re-import it into Skyrim and then share it as a download link in chat but not release it as a mod on skyrimnexus.com without the origonal mod creators permission or would that be seen as wrong? Wrong, and illegal. You break the copyright law. There also might be a chance the author used something from Oblivion in the models/mod, meaning you also break the EULA.It is also very, VERY disrespectfull. If somebody makes a mod, they take the credit, not some random Bob on the street. Nobody should ever do anything but play others mods without permission. It takes houres to make a good mod, stealing it is wrong. It aso ruins a lot: If somebody steals a few mods from a good modder, I can assure you: That modder is not modding for the game again. As s/he is not getting what they deserve. We wouldn't want less modders, not wouldn't we? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonicmole Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) Now, I doubt it would be Illegal. Because, modders don't actually own the legal rights to what they make, because they are merely "modifying" content owned by Bethesda. Even if the modder used no preexisting content, the content would undoubtedly be bound by the EULA. EA for example clearly states that no modder can claim copyright owner ship over any content created for or from the Sims. It also states that no creator can profit from said mods, but as we all know there are more then a few paid sites. I do agree that he should ask permission though, because it's kinda a rule within every mod community.....ever. Lots of creators don't request any permission to be given, so maybe he should stick with open mods. If you want to see what happens when mod communities go feral, google 'Sims 3 mods'. It's like a flip'n war 24/7. Edited December 16, 2011 by tonicmole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonegreywolf20 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm curious... what if the modder within the description gave anyone the right to use their mod how ever they want as long as they give the original modder credit and tell him what mods theirs will be used in? I am looking to get Hadhafang in game as well as the daggers that Legolas uses. There are 3 Oblivion mods with exactly those weapons. One says the above with in his description. None of the modders have been online up to 4 years now. I haven't a clue how to do what those who create mods do. I played around with just taking an Oblivion mod to see if I could port it to Skyrim, but had no clue what I was doing, even with a detailed guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayvaan7472 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm curious... what if the modder within the description gave anyone the right to use their mod how ever they want as long as they give the original modder credit and tell him what mods theirs will be used in? I am looking to get Hadhafang in game as well as the daggers that Legolas uses. There are 3 Oblivion mods with exactly those weapons. One says the above with in his description. None of the modders have been online up to 4 years now. I haven't a clue how to do what those who create mods do. I played around with just taking an Oblivion mod to see if I could port it to Skyrim, but had no clue what I was doing, even with a detailed guide. then that would be ok but you have to make sure that the mod does not contain any stuff from another game (obilivion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Now, I doubt it would be Illegal. Because, modders don't actually own the legal rights to what they make, because they are merely "modifying" content owned by Bethesda. Even if the modder used no preexisting content, the content would undoubtedly be bound by the EULA. EA for example clearly states that no modder can claim copyright owner ship over any content created for or from the Sims. It also states that no creator can profit from said mods, but as we all know there are more then a few paid sites. Except it is illegal to make illegal copies of copyrighted work when you do not have license to do so. And often modders do own the legal rights for what they make because they aren't always modifying work made by bethesda at all. In fact if you read the EULA for past Bethesda CS/GECK, it refers to 'Materials'. And that is specifically to the letter in the EULA restricted to materials created inside the toolkit. Any assets created outside of the tool kit have nothing what seo ever to do with the kit, and the kit doesn't even claim them anyway. even if it did it would be invalid because... a copyright owner you cannot make an exclusive transfer of copyright to another party without a lawyer and legally signed document. Any EA EULA saying they own any content is probably saying they have a non-exclusive license. Meaning you can make other licenses with other parties because you are actually the copyright owner, you only granted EA a license to do whatever they do..with certain stipulations that are no doubt contradictory to their obnoxious EULAs :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XunAmarox Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 They tend to not allow you to do it in threads here. It's probably not a HUGE deal if it's just that since it isn't really like you're uploading and distributing it somewhere that'll ever be seen by more than a small handful of people, assuming you definitely give the original authors full credit... but... I'd probably advise against it since they tend to be really strict here about copyrights and whatnot. Maybe private messaging it to some friends would be okay since it isn't publicly distributing it. But, it tends to not be something we discuss here. If you did it, it would probably go unnoticed to be honest since so few people would even see it, but if someone did ever happen to notice or report it, you're likely to get a really nasty warning or banned. The staff here tends to take copyrights and whatnot very seriously. Even mentioning it might get you banned... kinda scary. If you're going to do it, do it for yourself. But, it's best to veer on the safe side and not to distribute it even in random forum threads. Just... be patient and beg the original author for permission to convert their work. And if they say no, well... tough cookies I guess. At least you have it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 what's wrong with just asking and then moving on or doing it yourself if it's a no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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