JamesIsADeadbeat Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 So it only happens in some areas of vaults or unerground/industrial areas (factories, mechanist's lair, etc.) but I'll look down a hallway and it'll be all peaches and cream, until i look behind me. Then the walls or floor will be see through, and I see into the grey space area outside of the cell and my fps drops from 60- 25ish, sometimes followed by a crash. It reverts to normal if i stop looking in that direction or if I get up close like in these screenshots. v View from afar: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799504467Up close: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799504515 View from afar: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799504668Up close:http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799504701 Now I'm not really sure what is causing this, I have a lot of mods installed, but I deactivated them all and was still getting this problem. What I've tried:1:Deactivating all mods2: Updating video card drivers.3: Verifying cache files on Steam.4:Begging. If anyone has any suggestions or has any ideas that would be very helpful, as of now the game is playable, but those sequences where I am underground are painful. Load order: 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm 9 9 SettlementKeywords.esm 10 a Homemaker.esm 11 b Arbitration - Resources.esm 12 c AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp 13 d PD_VisualReload.esp 14 e ShellRain.esp 15 f QuickEnterFromStand.esp 16 10 QuickExitToStand.esp 17 11 ImmersiveVendors.esp 18 12 FALLOUT4WT.esp 19 13 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp 20 14 More Where That Came From - Classic.esp 21 15 DarkerNights.esp 22 16 DarkerNightsDetection.esp 23 17 AlienAssaultRifle.esp 24 18 OA_LootableMaterialsCrates.esp 25 19 DOOMCatalyst.esp 26 1a Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp 27 1b glowstick.esp 28 1c Armorsmith Extended.esp 29 1d OA_LootableMaterialsCrates_FH.esp 30 1e OA_LootableMaterialsCrates_NW.esp 31 1f nvvault1080.esp 32 20 FortSamson.esp 33 21 OA_LootableMaterialsCrates_AT.esp 34 22 DD_Tinas_Cookiepocolypse_merged.esp 35 23 MosesSubmarine.esp 36 24 FarHarborShack.esp 37 25 Underground Railroad.esp 38 26 Raider Children.esp 39 27 RedWave.esp 40 28 Fusion Gun.esp 41 29 DOOMGlock.esp 42 2a AA FusionCityRising.esp 43 2b BostonCommonPlayerHome.esp 44 2c GN_Home.esp 45 2d WRVR.esp 46 2e PlayerApartment.esp 47 2f RecruitableSettlers.esp 48 30 MikeMooresMCAM.esp 49 31 CambridgeHome.esp 50 32 rvsofthecommonwealth.esp 51 33 Killable Children.esp 52 34 QuazVehicleOverhaul.esp 53 35 Orphans.esp 54 36 LR_APCTransport.esp 55 37 Lootable_Redcoat_Mannequins.esp 56 38 SpectacleIslandBoat.esp 57 39 AK74_FO4.esp 58 3a SettlementAttacksBeyond.esp 59 3b 1918bar.esp 60 3c DOOM1911.esp 61 3d DOOMMAC11.esp 62 3e MKIIGrenadeReplacer.esp 63 3f R91M.esp 64 40 MP153.esp 65 41 QuadBarrelShotgun.esp 66 42 Regent.esp 67 43 StG44.esp 68 44 PipeShotgun.esp 69 45 PipeShotgun-AWKCR.esp 70 46 M2216.esp 71 47 dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp 72 48 dD - Small Splatter Size.esp 73 49 UniquePipboy.esp 74 4a AWKCR - Contraptions.esp 75 4b LongerPowerLines3x.esp 76 4c FAR.esp 77 4d 1.5xPlayerDamage.esp 78 4e 1.5xEnemyDamage.esp 79 4f LegendaryModification.esp 80 50 LegendaryModification2LM.esp 81 51 LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp 82 52 LegendaryModificationMisc.esp 83 53 LegendaryModificationCSA.esp 84 54 LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp 85 55 Lootable_Redcoat_Mannequins_Minutemen_Replacer_USA.esp 86 56 Evil Detective Outfit.esp 87 57 zWGirlClothSimply.esp 88 58 AsharaFO4Steampunk.esp 89 59 DX Chem I Care Outfit.esp 90 5a Eli_Steampunk Gunslinger.esp 91 5b Personal Jetpack.esp 92 5c CBBE.esp 93 5d CBBE Furry Undergarments Fix.esp 94 5e Movable Power Armor.esp 95 5f BioshockInspiredPowerArmor.esp 96 60 Conquest.esp 97 61 CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp 98 62 GrenadeExpansionPack.esp 99 63 mk14.esp100 64 MakeYourOwnSynths.esp101 65 Rangergearnew.esp102 66 M2045MagnumRevolverRifle.esp103 67 SkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.esp104 68 P99.esp105 69 Makeshift-Anti Materiel Rifle.esp106 6a ClassicSniper.esp107 6b mk14-awkcr.esp108 6c LoreFriendlySurvivalChems.esp109 6d ManufacturingExtended.esp110 6e OWR_CraftableDecor.esp111 6f OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp112 70 OWR_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp113 71 Locksmith.esp114 72 MiscHairstyle.esp115 73 Ada2Human.esp116 74 Dogmeat behavior reflagged.esp117 75 Curie Replace.esp118 76 KSHairdos.esp119 77 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp120 78 DX_Harley_Quinn_Outfit.esp121 79 HarleyQuinn.esp122 7a CrudeBlowback.esp123 7b CrudeBlowback - AWKCR.esp124 7c DOOMDesertEagle.esp125 7d OWR.esp126 7e THBrows.esp127 7f Companion_BloodRose.esp128 80 LovingCait.esp129 81 K9TacticalHarness.esp130 82 Armormsith All DLCs Patch.esp131 83 AWKCR - Automatron.esp132 84 Gunsmith Extended.esp133 85 SniperDamage.esp134 86 MinigunDamage.esp135 87 AWKCR - Far Harbor.esp136 88 AWKCR - Nuka World.esp137 89 AWKCR - Vault-Tec.esp138 8a Tec-9.esp139 8b LeverActionExtendedAmmo.esp140 8c Lever Action Shotgun.esp141 8d 3dscopes.esp142 8e 3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp143 8f 3dscopes-framework.esp144 90 3dscopes-m2216addon.esp145 91 3dscopes-r91maddon.esp 3dscopes-G20addon.esp146 92 3dscopes-FarHarbor.esp147 93 3dscopes-NukaWorld.esp148 94 el_precursorsuit.esp149 95 IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp150 96 DiverseChildren.esp151 97 BetterSettlers.esp152 98 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp153 99 BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp154 9a BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp155 9b BetterSettlersFarHarborPatchMortal.esp156 9c SettlersRename.esp157 9d SettlementAttacksBeyondFH.esp158 9e SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp159 9f CleanSettlement Homemaker Greenhouses.esp160 a0 EFF.esp161 a1 PersonalPackAnimals.esp162 a2 Companion Fall Damage Immunity.esp163 a3 OCDispenser.esp164 a4 SCAR-L.esp165 a5 Tree Farms - 30 Wood.esp166 a6 CleanPoweredDoors.esp167 a7 AdvBubbleTurretSet-RealNP.esp168 a8 Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp169 a9 SSEX.esp170 aa ExoticHarvestables.esp171 ab AlternateSettlements.esp172 ac OCDecorator.esp173 ad OCD FarHarborDLC.esp174 ae HillsofCorpses.esp175 af TimeScale 10 to 1.esp176 b0 LongRangeBulletHoles.esp177 b1 SlowTime.esp178 b2 Smoke-able Cigars.esp179 b3 SignsOfTheTimesPosters.esp180 b4 P220.esp181 b5 Ppsh 41.esp182 b6 Killable Children - Far Harbor.esp183 b7 ASVektor.esp184 b8 M4A1.esp185 b9 M4A1 - AWKCR.esp186 ba USP 45.esp 3dscopes-uspaddon.esp187 bb AN94.esp188 bc WAYN_CompanionTracking.esp189 bd SalvageBeacons.esp190 be PinUp.esp191 bf AshleyOutfit.esp192 c0 LovingPiper.esp193 c1 ReallyGhoulish(DLC).esp194 c2 fn five-seven v3.0.esp195 c3 SurvivalOptions.esp196 c4 PilesofCorpses.esp197 c5 Quick Save.esp198 c6 console.esp199 c7 CapsStashPlus.esp200 c8 GrenadeExpansionPackAWKCRPatch.esp201 c9 MMsLaserRCW.esp202 ca LightsaberMod.esp203 cb chem redux.esp204 cc TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp205 cd TNR Shoulder Lamp - Settings.esp206 ce TNR Shoulder Lamp - Alternate Slot.esp207 cf CageArmor Helmet Standalone.esp208 d0 S.O.R.T.esp209 d1 DJ02_MoreLabelsWW.esp210 d2 Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp211 d3 Spare Railroad as Institute.esp212 d4 YogHarleyBat.esp213 d5 QuickTrade.esp214 d6 Scrap Everything - Core.esp215 d7 Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp216 d8 Scrap Everything - Nuka World.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vormina Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Had the exact same thing happen in Mechanists Lair and the Vault where you cure Cait's addiction. No idea what's causing it, but yes it is painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BipolarOne Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Room Portals come to mind or just clipping (culling) but I mean you would have to duplicate the issue in a vanilla build of the game to find out if it was related to the modded part of the build. An easy test would be to disable the mods an go in the game an ignore the warning an see if it still happens. Name some of the locations specifically so others could check it. What you could do is get Steam to make a backup install disc, top left Steam menu, back up an restore games, store that, un-install the game. Get the game directory file, config ini, and hidden appdata load order files, and compress it an store that somewhere for later. Install the game from the backup, use a clean save or new game start. Console command it into a test mode for example ~TGM && ~TMM 1 then just speed run to those points if you couldn't just go to the place an test it. Various game settings and tweeks might have something to do with it as well. Temps an age of hardware might cause it too. You know, IF IT'S BLOWING UP GOD D***IT!!!! FIRE IN THE HOLE, GOD D***, I SAID, GOD D***. GET DOWN, HIT THE DECK! ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesIsADeadbeat Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Room Portals come to mind or just clipping (culling) but I mean you would have to duplicate the issue in a vanilla build of the game to find out if it was related to the modded part of the build. An easy test would be to disable the mods an go in the game an ignore the warning an see if it still happens. Name some of the locations specifically so others could check it. What you could do is get Steam to make a backup install disc, top left Steam menu, back up an restore games, store that, un-install the game. Get the game directory file, config ini, and hidden appdata load order files, and compress it an store that somewhere for later. Install the game from the backup, use a clean save or new game start. Console command it into a test mode for example ~TGM && ~TMM 1 then just speed run to those points if you couldn't just go to the place an test it. Various game settings and tweeks might have something to do with it as well. Temps an age of hardware might cause it too. You know, IF IT'S BLOWING UP GOD D***IT!!!! FIRE IN THE HOLE, GOD D***, I SAID, GOD D***. GET DOWN, HIT THE DECK! ROFL I uninstalled all mods and it was still doin it, but it seems to be just the locations Vormina mentioned. Cait's cure vault, and the mechanist's lair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BipolarOne Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Is this a first person thing? Some things have a clip distance I noticed, as it clips out of the scene at certain angles. Running a 90 FOV does have it's drawbacks an could be related, hell it might not be a bad idea for me to switch it back to 75 or whatever it was. You know, cause it would cull more (make it disappear for performance reasons). Got any ideas how I could get there, because I know i would get lost and/or killed several times in this build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGreatWeight Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Deactivating your mods won't help you isolate the issue if it's related to a mod your using.You'd have to uninstall all your mods, and then reinstall one at a time (and test each install in-game) to narrow it down to the culprit.This to me looks like it's possibly a mesh issue, or a mod conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle24 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Scrap Everything is probably your issue, Try removing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Had it too, but only in Vault 88. Seems like a vanilla bug as I had it in an unmodded clean install with a new game. It has something to do with portals not being connected very well, like BipolarOne suggested. I first thought it was LOD flicker caused by pre-culling; something that can happen when you scrap unscrappable stuff with mods like Spring Cleaning, Place Everywhere (using those myself) and other Scrap Everythings and the game tries to render stuff that was supposed to be there but no longer isn't. But, since I had it on an unmodded vanilla game, my deduction is that it's a bug... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damanding Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Sounds like room bounds and portals issue or precombined mesh/previs issue to me too. Vault 88 and Mechanists Lair are particularly bad about this. That said, mods which alter those areas are likely to make the vanilla problems worse and Scrap Everything is also known to make it worse. In fact Scrap Everything now has versions of the mod that don't let you scrap in those two locations because some people had issues and others didn't. Edited January 7, 2017 by damanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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