Load Order Sorting

[Alehazar]

I need someone who is experienced in how to set up a proper load order for me:

 

This is what I currently have installed:

 

00 Skyrim.esm
01 Update.esm
02 Dawnguard.esm
03 Hearthfires.esm
04 Dragonborn.esm
05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
06 HighResTexturePack01.esp
07 HighResTexturePack02.esp
08 HighResTexturePack03.esp
09 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

 

[i reckon the above is correct and does not need to change]

 

[my question pertains to the following mods in my loadorder:]

0A RaceMenu.esp
0B RaceMenuPlugin.esp
0C XPMSE.esp
0D FNIS.esp
0E FNISspells.esp
0F SkyUI.esp
10 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
11 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp [assets overwritten by assets from XMPSE]
12 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
13 dbbetterf.esp
14 Dead Body Collision.esp
15 Paralysis.esp
16 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
17 RiverwoodStorageChest.esp
18 For the Brotherhood Daggers.esp

19 Dragon Knowledge Spell.esp
1A Dynasty Armor.esp
1B Nicos Gift.esp
1C Doomshard Bow.esp
1D Talon of Akatosh.esp
1E Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp [cannot be moved either up or down in the NMM Load Order]

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Other mods that do not have a Master or Plugin file:

Replacer: Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE- by Ousnius and Caliente; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/2666/?

Updated / Patched: Dual Sheath Redux - For The Brotherhood Daggers by scuffed_down; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64871/?

Fix: Dynasty Armor CBBEv3 Fixed by Vypir; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/14034/?

Installed: HDT Physics Extensions by HydrogensaysHDT; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53996/?

Replacer: Polished and Sexy nocturnal statue by Nikitaa; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/55293/?

 

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See attached txt file for easy reference of where all involved Skyrim Mods can be located on the Nexus.

[Kroekr]

Try running LOOT

[Alehazar]

Try running LOOT

It says almost all of the official master files need some cleaning with TES5Edit; otherwise it leaves the loadorder unchanged -does that mean I'm good to go?

[Varichi]

Did you actually tell it to go through with the changes it made? LOOT will rearrange them first and then show you what it did, but you have to hit "Apply" for the changes to have an effect.

 

As far as the cleaning message goes, you will have to use TES5Edit to do that. It's not difficult. Here's an article on how to do that.

 

Basically, load the mods to be cleaned, but one at a time (meaning, only the mod to be cleaned and any master it might need). Right click the file, select "Apply Filter for Cleaning" and let the program run for a minute. There are two basic types of automatic cleaning for most mods. The first is to remove identical records. Right click the mod and select that option ("Remove Identical to Master"), let it do its work. The second thing is to right click and select "Undelete and Disable References".

 

This will take care of two of the issues that will come up in LOOT-the identical records and the deleted references. Deleted Navmeshes is another error that might come up, but that takes a bit more work to do. Before you clean any mod, check the list of mods NOT to clean (they call them "intentional dirty edits") to make sure the records aren't meant to be there. The site in the link I posted above is the best place to get a start on cleaning mods and it has pages for the official DLC as well.

[Alehazar]

Did you actually tell it to go through with the changes it made? LOOT will rearrange them first and then show you what it did, but you have to hit "Apply" for the changes to have an effect.

 

As far as the cleaning message goes, you will have to use TES5Edit to do that. It's not difficult. Here's an article on how to do that.

 

Basically, load the mods to be cleaned, but one at a time (meaning, only the mod to be cleaned and any master it might need). Right click the file, select "Apply Filter for Cleaning" and let the program run for a minute. There are two basic types of automatic cleaning for most mods. The first is to remove identical records. Right click the mod and select that option ("Remove Identical to Master"), let it do its work. The second thing is to right click and select "Undelete and Disable References".

 

This will take care of two of the issues that will come up in LOOT-the identical records and the deleted references. Deleted Navmeshes is another error that might come up, but that takes a bit more work to do. Before you clean any mod, check the list of mods NOT to clean (they call them "intentional dirty edits") to make sure the records aren't meant to be there. The site in the link I posted above is the best place to get a start on cleaning mods and it has pages for the official DLC as well.

I ran LOOT again and clicked the Sort Plugins option; my load order changes only a little -only a few plugins were allotted a different position.

Exit LOOT.

Used TES5Edit as per the instructions found in your link.

New LOOT now states 0 Warnings, 0 Errors and 0 Dirty Plugins and no changes to load order.

[earlier I had at least 4 dirty plugins ]

 

Do I need to start a new game?

[Kroekr]

It may not be needed but it would not hurt.

[Solstitial]

 

Did you actually tell it to go through with the changes it made? LOOT will rearrange them first and then show you what it did, but you have to hit "Apply" for the changes to have an effect.

 

As far as the cleaning message goes, you will have to use TES5Edit to do that. It's not difficult. Here's an article on how to do that.

 

Basically, load the mods to be cleaned, but one at a time (meaning, only the mod to be cleaned and any master it might need). Right click the file, select "Apply Filter for Cleaning" and let the program run for a minute. There are two basic types of automatic cleaning for most mods. The first is to remove identical records. Right click the mod and select that option ("Remove Identical to Master"), let it do its work. The second thing is to right click and select "Undelete and Disable References".

 

This will take care of two of the issues that will come up in LOOT-the identical records and the deleted references. Deleted Navmeshes is another error that might come up, but that takes a bit more work to do. Before you clean any mod, check the list of mods NOT to clean (they call them "intentional dirty edits") to make sure the records aren't meant to be there. The site in the link I posted above is the best place to get a start on cleaning mods and it has pages for the official DLC as well.

I ran LOOT again and clicked the Sort Plugins option; my load order changes only a little -only a few plugins were allotted a different position.

Exit LOOT.

Used TES5Edit as per the instructions found in your link.

New LOOT now states 0 Warnings, 0 Errors and 0 Dirty Plugins and no changes to load order.

[earlier I had at least 4 dirty plugins ]

 

Do I need to start a new game?

 

 

After you Sort Plugins, remember to hit Apply, or LOOT's changes don't take effect.

[StormcloakViking]

i'm also having trouble and would like some help with my load order.

 

here's an example

 

 

 

 

00 Skyrim.esm
01 Update.esm
02 Dawnguard.esm
03 Hearthfire.esm
04 Dragonborn.esm
05 USLEEP.esm
06 ApachiiHair.esm
07 ApachiiHairFemale.esm
08 campfire.esm
09 moonpath.esm
10 RSkyrimChildren.esm
11 OSA.esm
12 HBP.esm
13 Bandolier Dawnguard (Workshop?)
14 Sabre Gear Backpack (Workshop?)
15 Knapsack Backpacks (Workshop?)
16 Geralt Witcher Armor (Workshop?)
17 Civil War Clean up.esp
18 MMI.esp
19 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
20 SkyforgeWeapons.esp
21 UniqueBarbas.esp
22 ELFX.esp
23 ELFX exteriors.esp
24 RDO.esp
25 Forts of Skyrim Rebuilt.esp
26 immersive roads.esp
27 3DNPCs.esp
28 Prometheus Sovngarde gold.esp
29 SovngardeNordHeroes.esp
30 YsgramorNordicArmor v1.1.esp
31 ELFX - no player homes.esp
32 ELFX - no Hjerim.esp
33 ELFX - no Severin Manor.esp
34 Ancient Winterhold.esp
35 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
36 RavenRockExpanded.esp
37 WindhelmEntranceOverhaul.esp
38 SkyrimBridges.esp
39 LakeExpanded01.esp
40 Skyrim Immersive Creatures (DL...C?).esp
41 ELFX - weathers.esp
42 Better Vampires.esp
43 Hothtrooper Immersive Armor.esp
44 Race Scale Remover.esp
45 Temple of the Akaviri (Workshop)
46 TES Arena Fortress 01 (Workshop - name not visible)
47 TES Arena Fortress 02 (Workshop - name not visible)
48 TES Arena Fortress 03 (Workshop - name not visible)
49 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
50 NewAmberguard.esp
51 Run For Your Lives.esp
52 Cloaks.esp
53 Quest the Bigger They Are (Workshop)
54 TheFrontier.esp
55 TES Arena Fortress 04 (Workshop - name not visible)
56 TES Arena Fortress 05 (Workshop - name not visible)
57 Inigo.esp
58 AshesoftheRedMountain.esp
59 CalienteValArmorTweaks.esp
60 CivilWarExtended.esp
61 ELFX - no Breezehome.esp
62 ELFX - no Proudspire Manor.esp
63 ELFX - no Honeyside.esp
64 ELFX - no VlindrelHall.esp
65 EMViljainSolstheimaddon.esp
66 TheDomain.esp
67 ImmersiveWenches.esp
68 TacticalValtheim.esp
69 DragonmournInn.esp
70 TES Arena Fortress 06 (Workshop - name not visible)
71 The Great City of Dragon Bridge.esp
72 Quest No Mercy (Workshop)
73 moonpath_questdata.esp
74 ELFX - Moonpath.esp
75 RIC Dawnstar.esp
76 TES Arena Fortress 07 (Workshop - name not visible)
77 Immersive Horses.esp
78 TES Arena Fortress 08 (Workshop - name not visible)
79 TES Arena Fortress 09 (Workshop - name not visible)
80 Immersive Horses Hearthfire patch.esp
81 Skaal Armor Merchant.esp
82 Paper World Map Solstheim.esp
83 RDO Immersive Horses Patch.esp
84 AdalMatar.esp
85 SkyrimShadowStripingFix.esp
86 Quest Sea of Ghosts (Workshop)
87 as_WHRefugeecamp.esp
88 Common Clothes and Armor.esp
89 Frostfall.esp
90 Places Oakwood Hearthfire Edition (Workshop)
91 SofiaFollower.esp
92 PopulatedCities2.esp
93 radiantBlocker.esp
94 Recorder Follower Base.esp
95 Quest Sorcery (Workshop)
96 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
97 Quest and the Realms of the Daedra (Workshop)
98 Frost Giants in the Cold.esp
99 mihailicetitans.esp
100 Unique Villages Shors Stone (Workshop)
101 Shor's Stone with a Stone.esp
102 vMYC - meet your characters.esp
103 SnooSnoo.esp
104 Apocalypse Magic of Skyrim (Workshop)
105 fine goods from Morrowind.esp
106 Minerva.esp
107 RDO USLEEP patch.esp
108 Adrianne BijinNPCs.esp
109 Carlotta BijinNPCs.esp
110 Gerdur BijinNPCs.esp
111 Hulda BijinNPCs.esp
112 Idgrod BijinNPCs.esp
113 Ingun BijinNPCs.esp
114 Irileth BijinNPCs.esp
115 Karliah BijinNPCs.esp
116 Maven BijinNPCs.esp
117 Rikke BijinNPCs.esp
118 Sapphire BijinNPCs.esp
119 Tonilia BijinNPCs.esp
120 Vex BijinNPCs.esp
121 Shiamar.esp
122 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
123 warchiefarmor.esp
124 better females - eyebrows.esp
125 Bijin Wives.esp
126 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
127 DeadlyDragons.esp
128 Dr_Bandolier.esp
129 grimsever2h.esp
130 Hothtrooper Immersive Armor_Ecksstra (not sure what else is there).esp
131 Purewaters_Leg_5-0_DrinkEastSleep.esp
132 Purewaters.esp
133 RSChildren.esp
134 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp
135 Skyrim Ladies - Astrid.esp
136 SKUI (Workshop) - claims to be "outdated" when I open the map, but it's at the latest version
137 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
138 Improved Bards - All-in-One.esp
139 [MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights.esp
140 RS Children_PatchHeightAdjusted.esp
141 GrayMane Reborn.esp
142 Consistent Vignar GrayMane.esp
143 FNIS.esp
144 TakeNotes.esp
145 Beards.esp
146 Mirabelle.esp
147 Gold to Septim.esp
148 Serana (from Seranaholic).esp
149 Valerica (from Seranaholic).esp
150 Hearthfire Display Case Fix.esp
151 Havok BrePhysic Dawnguard.esp
152 Havok BrePhysic.esp
153 Havok BrePhysic Dragonborn.esp
154 Toccata as Elisif.esp
155 FNISSexyMove.esp
156 RaceMenu.esp
157 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
158 Guards Armor Replacer.esp
159 Heavy Legion.esp
160 Heavy LegionCraft.esp
161 Bijin Warmaidens.esp
162 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
163 RND.esp
164 RND_DrinkingFountains-patch.esp
165 RND_PureWaters-patch.esp
166 XPMSE.esp
167 Alternate Start.esp
168 Warburg's 3D Paper World map.esp
169 ELFXEnhancer.esp

 

 

 

 

I ran LOOT, and it always miss-sorts Guard Armor Replacer and Bijin Warmaidens, among other mods (like the Heavy Legion and HDT BBP physics mods), and causes major issues. I had to manually force them to sort where they are (near the bottom) to get them to work: it will do this even if I DON'T click "apply changes". i don't use Mod Organizer because it forced me to change my Nexus password and then refused to recognize my new password after i confirmed it: then I couldn't install mods anymore and had to go back to Vortex and make it the prime modding source again

 

I'm not a modder and don't know what I'm doing wrong