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[JimboUK]

What about Fair Use?

 

You can't claim that when making a mod.

 

You can make your mod dependant on the other mod, have that as a master or even require assets from the other mod, an example would be a companion that requires a certain hair pack to work. You cannot redistribute the other mod or any of its assets, even in edited form, you have to make it a requirement of yours and have people download it from the original page.

[wizardmirth]

There is absolutely nothing in the "Fair Use" doctrine that applies to appropriating and incorporating someone else's mod into yours.

You are not proposing publishing "limited excerpts for research, teaching, satire, or review/commentary."

You are proposing stealing someone's work. :armscrossed:

 

I am not proposing stealing anything otherwise I would have just gone ahead and done it already. If you just mean by nature it is wrong and stealing then ok. But no, I am not consciously proposing stealing of any kind, thank you. I am here asking questions to find out what is right and what this site allows.

 

 

 

What about Fair Use?

 

You can't claim that when making a mod.

 

You can make your mod dependant on the other mod, have that as a master or even require assets from the other mod, an example would be a companion that requires a certain hair pack to work. You cannot redistribute the other mod or any of its assets, even in edited form, you have to make it a requirement of yours and have people download it from the original page.

 

 

This is what I already proposed doing but then there was some going back and forth on the subject. Now, and since your are not officially a Nexus Staff responder here, I just really don't know what to think.

 

Not to mention I brought this up late last year on the Mod Author's board and everyone, without much hesitation if any at all, said that even this was a big no-no and that no permission means you can't even do it this way.

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

There is absolutely nothing in the "Fair Use" doctrine that applies to appropriating and incorporating someone else's mod into yours.

You are not proposing publishing "limited excerpts for research, teaching, satire, or review/commentary."

You are proposing stealing someone's work. :armscrossed:

 

I am not proposing stealing anything otherwise I would have just gone ahead and done it already. If you just mean by nature it is wrong and stealing then ok. But no, I am not consciously proposing stealing of any kind, thank you. I am here asking questions to find out what is right and what this site allows.

 

 

 

What about Fair Use?

 

You can't claim that when making a mod.

 

You can make your mod dependant on the other mod, have that as a master or even require assets from the other mod, an example would be a companion that requires a certain hair pack to work. You cannot redistribute the other mod or any of its assets, even in edited form, you have to make it a requirement of yours and have people download it from the original page.

 

 

This is what I already proposed doing but then there was some going back and forth on the subject. Now, and since your are not officially a Nexus Staff responder here, I just really don't know what to think.

 

Not to mention I brought this up late last year on the Mod Author's board and everyone, without much hesitation if any at all, said that even this was a big no-no and that no permission means you can't even do it this way.

 

okay let me try.

 

if you're mod requires another mod to work that is fine and nothing is wrong with doing so.

mods do not fall under fair use. just because something is free does not mean you can share it without permission.

taking assets from a mod without permission to use in your mod is not allowed and against the law.

taking another mod without permission and using it in your mod is not allowed and against the law.

abandoned mods are not free to use without permission from the owner.

requiring assets from an abandoned mod to have your mod work is okay as long as that other mod needs to be downloaded separately.

 

how hard is that to understand?

[wizardmirth]

Fair use doesn't apply here. Got that already.

 

But can you make it a dependent file?

 

Not OK (staff) vs. Yes OK (non staff): score - Staff 1, Non-Staffers 2. (of course 1 staff response may easily equate to like 100 points here, so no offense you "non-staffers" but I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that staff has/will overrule you)

 

Can another staff member just come here and confirm this whole "if made dependent file and fairly credited then its okay or not" thing to rest?

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

But can you make it a dependent file?

yes

 

 

Not OK (staff) vs. Yes OK (non staff): score - Staff 1, Non-Staffers 2. (of course 1 staff response may easily equate to like 100 points here, so no offense you "non-staffers" but I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that staff has/will overrule you)

all non-staffers in this thread (not including you) are agreeing with the staff

 

 

Can another staff member just come here and confirm this whole "if made dependent file and fairly credited then its okay or not" thing to rest?

one is enough

[TheVampireDante]

Make it dependent.

 

Do not include any of the actual assets from the other mod in your upload - users must get those assets from the original mod page, from the author of that file.

 

All there is to it.

[wizardmirth]

Make it dependent.

 

Do not include any of the actual assets from the other mod in your upload - users must get those assets from the original mod page, from the author of that file.

 

All there is to it.

 

Holy friggin crap dude thanks!

 

(And just in case anyone else is interested to know, the mod has no original assets and my use of this mod is two-fold: 1) I love the mod truly 2) had been planning on potentially expanding it in the most non-intrusive way with my own mod for many years now - in a way that people can still go an experience the original mod with both our mods installed so long as they have not yet gotten to that part of the quest in my mod yet. Just, FYI.)