Lachdonin Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 IMO you should be able to make a claim for the throne. On what grounds? The Dragonfires don't burn anymore, so theres no quasi-religious need for a Dragonblood Emperor. The PC also has no dynastic claim to the throne. Asside from a coup, the Dragonborn has no legitimate claim to the throne, and one needs an army to lead a coup, something the Dragonborn lacks. As for the lineage of the Dragonblood, we know St. Alessa BECAME a Dragonborn when her blood was joined with Akatosh, lighting the Dragonfires. We also know no Dragonborn was present during the original banishment of Alduin, but the Dragonborn were already mythic during the Akiviri invasion of Tamriel and the reign of Reman Cyrodiil. As such, i would posit that all Dragonborn lineages are descended from St. Alessa herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwannaddl Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I do wonder about there not being dragonborn during the banishment of Alduin. The mortal heroes who banished him certainly were unusually gifted with the Voice. All the dragons are also keenly aware of dragonborn mortals, though they obviously could have simply learned about them after Alduin was banished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I mean that none were physically there when Alduin was banished. We don't know if there were any at large in the world at the time. However, the fall of the Alduin would have to have happened between the fall of the Snow Prince and the invasion of Morrowind. Which means it would have been in the very early First Age, if not in the late Mereithic. If the genesis of the Dragonborn is linked to the mixture of Akatosh's blood it's either through Alessa, or it could be through Trinimac, the semi-divine champion of Akatosh. If Alessa, then there were no Dragonborn when Alduin was banished, though there were Dragons until mid-way through the second Era at least. If Trinimac, the Dragonborn could predate the Dragonwar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Actually the graybeards tell that a dragonborn appears in times of greater dangers, being a gift of Akatosh himself as pointed by dukkah. This lead me to believe the Septim was a special lineage because the need to guard the sigil to prevent the gates of Oblivion to open (maybe the only lineage of dragonborn). They actually had of it almost only the ability to make use of the amulet of the king. Alduin's return being what triggered the appearance of "you" in the game :) PS: only wondering, in a way the argonian are far more suitable to the dragonborn role than any elf, human or kajiit Edited January 15, 2012 by nosisab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The Argonians are the children of the Hist, and have absolutely no relationship to Dragons. The similarities in appearance (Being reptillian and all) are purely superficial. As for how the Dragonborn work, i'm building my oppinions from both out-of-game statements and whats present in game. The actual in-game information is, IMO, spotty at best, so i tend to fall back on interview statements to fill in blanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorak Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 All I know is that being Dragonborn lets me wield a comically oversized, glowing red battleaxe like a wooden mallet. That's enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordofmewmew Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 You sure? Imagine your Dragonborn is a argonian, woud be wired, woudnt it? I think in the ' wolf queen' book, they mention Antiochus Septim having sex with an Argonian Prostitute... Also that he had several wives and just as many concubines, so hey, ya never know :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brasher Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The gates to Oblivion have been permanently sealed, and no one needs to light the Dragon Fires anymore, so the Empire no longer needs a Dragonborn emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The gates to Oblivion have been permanently sealed, and no one needs to light the Dragon Fires anymore, so the Empire no longer needs a Dragonborn emperor. I think thats just a 'feel good' statement rather than fact. Look at how easily Dagon sends some Dremora to attack you. Or how Clavicus Vile expells part of his being (Barbas) to Nirn. Or Nocturnal physically manifesting. ONE entrance inot Nirn has been closed. There are likely hundreds more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesapien Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 IMO you should be able to make a claim for the throne. On what grounds? The Dragonfires don't burn anymore, so theres no quasi-religious need for a Dragonblood Emperor. The PC also has no dynastic claim to the throne. Asside from a coup, the Dragonborn has no legitimate claim to the throne, and one needs an army to lead a coup, something the Dragonborn lacks. As for the lineage of the Dragonblood, we know St. Alessa BECAME a Dragonborn when her blood was joined with Akatosh, lighting the Dragonfires. We also know no Dragonborn was present during the original banishment of Alduin, but the Dragonborn were already mythic during the Akiviri invasion of Tamriel and the reign of Reman Cyrodiil. As such, i would posit that all Dragonborn lineages are descended from St. Alessa herself. Not that any of my PC's want to be emperor, and, please, no worshipers either, but after saving everyone from destruction and stopping to get a peace treaty signed, sounds like a new age with a new leader isn't such a unthinkable proposition. Sure, being Dovakiin does help, unless you just believe one version of lore, like yourself, then maybe not, but you're just one as opposed to the many who might actually choose to follow a living hero and legend as opposed to... wait, who am I running against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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