MGSO 3.0 + MEN Combat = Infinite Magicka? Fix?

[ArtMurder]

So, I looked it up and encountered at least one thread on the internet that leads me to think this is just an incompatibility in these mods! I was told by a video on YouTube these were not only fine, but suggested to be used together, but it seems this video was quite stupid! Grrr!

 

To describe the glitch in more detail, if I draw my weapon my magicka starts regenerating in huge chunks, about 1/3 my bar per half second!! I can spam any spell as fast I want and it never seems to go do down! I've tried toggling off things like Swift Casting and MEN Combat's Magicka Regen altogether, but nothing seems to make it anything but infinite free magicka!

 

The only other mods I have installed are the Official Mods Compilation, UMOPP, and Delayed DB Attack. And of coarse, the script extender. Yes, I disabled the MGE internal script extender like MEN requests!

 

MEN is the only combat system which seemed worthwhile! If I can't find a fix for this, I think I will just do it with the completely vanilla combat! I am really hoping there is a simple fix for this I just can't seem to find...

 

Thanks in advance!

Edited February 7, 2017 by ArtMurder

[Dragon32]

You'll probably get more help here:

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1513002-rel-oblivion-like-combat-tweaks-part-of-men-project/

 

[Edit:

And MGSO is a collection of mods. Saying it doesn't work with MGSO is pretty useless for diagnosis]

Edited February 7, 2017 by Dragon32

[ArtMurder]

I've picked through the individual mods, and none of them seem to be causing it. I've seen at least one other thread mention the issue as if it's a known one. It's only useless information to you, not to everyone else, including the people that might can actually help me. =/

 

I already new of that thread's existence, too. Thanks though.

[Dragon32]

Please post your mod list. Ideally in load order from mlox or Wrye Mash, or from morrowind.ini, and I can take a look.

 

Alternatively, using a binary search is a great approach.

 

[Edit: And really don't expect many (if any) other people to chip in and help here, threads get lots of views and very few posts.]

Edited February 8, 2017 by Dragon32

[ArtMurder]

I am honestly an overwhelmingly patient person, I didn't expect a response quick at all in the first place.

 

I suppose I can't argue that having my load order would be more helpful though. I picked through each of them, and basically all of them seem to be visual. I figured it had something to do with MGSO itself, based on the one thread I found when researching the issue online.

 

 

 

[Game Files]

GameFile0=Bloodmoon.esm

GameFile1=Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm

GameFile2=Morrowind.esm

GameFile3=Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm

GameFile4=Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm

GameFile5=Texture Fix 2.0.esm

GameFile6=Tribunal.esm

GameFile7=abotWindowsGlow.esp

GameFile8=almalexia armor.esp

GameFile9=Animated Morrowind.esp

GameFile10=AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp

GameFile11=Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp

GameFile12=Better Bodies.esp

GameFile13=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp

GameFile14=Better Skulls.ESP

GameFile15=Better Weapons and Armors.esp

GameFile16=BetterClothesForTB.esp

GameFile17=Better_Sounds.esp

GameFile18=Bloated Caves.esp

GameFile19=bones.esp

GameFile20=Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp

GameFile21=Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp

GameFile22=Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp

GameFile23=Clean MCFC_1.0.esp

GameFile24=correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp

GameFile25=DB_Attack_Mod.esp

GameFile26=ExcellentMagicSounds.esp

GameFile27=Female Armor - Complete.esp

GameFile28=Golden Gold.esp

GameFile29=Graphic Herbalism.esp

GameFile30=guarskin_drum_replacer.esp

GameFile31=imperial chain fix.esp

GameFile32=JEB_muffin_fix.esp

GameFile33=Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp

GameFile34=LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp

GameFile35=MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp

GameFile36=MEN_Combat.esp

GameFile37=More Better Clothes.ESP

GameFile38=MW Containers Animated.esp

GameFile39=Neo's Unique Creatures.esp

GameFile40=New Bodies - Clean.esp

GameFile41=New Voices.esp

GameFile42=NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp

GameFile43=OTR_Coast_Variety.esp

GameFile44=Particle Arrow Replacer.esp

GameFile45=Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp

GameFile46=Psy_VGR_Armour.esp

GameFile47=Shieldfx.esp

GameFile48=SirLuthor-Tools.esp

GameFile49=Sleepers, Awake!.esp

GameFile50=Statue Replacer - Normal.esp

GameFile51=STA_guides_replacer.esp

GameFile52=True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp

GameFile53=UF_HortRobeF001.esp

GameFile54=Unique Banners and Signs.esp

GameFile55=Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp

GameFile56=UniqueFinery.esp

GameFile57=Unofficial Morrowind Official Plugins Patched.esp

GameFile58=Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp

GameFile59=Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp

GameFile60=WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP

GameFile61=Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp

GameFile62=Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp

GameFile63=Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp

GameFile64=Windows Glow.esp

GameFile65=MEN_Combat_merged~2.esp

GameFile66=MEN_Combat_merged~1.esp

GameFile67=MEN_Combat_merged.esp

 

 

[Dragon32]

It's late here and first look at the list and it seems to be, as you say, pretty much MGSO mods.

 

AFAIK, MGSO is an installer wrapper around a bunch of mods. It might (I've never used it) do some morrowind.ini tweaks but it doesn't, AFAIK, itself affect the game.

 

Presumably you're using abot's latest (Sept. 2016) generator? http://abitoftaste.altervista.org/morrowind/index.php?option=downloads&task=info&id=63&Itemid=50&-MEN-Combat-Merged-Generator

 

What looks a bit weird is:

GameFile65=MEN_Combat_merged~2.esp

GameFile66=MEN_Combat_merged~1.esp

GameFile67=MEN_Combat_merged.esp

 

From what I understand you should just have "MEN_Combat_merged.esp", those other two look like they could be temporary files used to build the main one but they haven't been cleaned up.

 

What happens if you disable those two?

Edited February 9, 2017 by Dragon32

[ArtMurder]

As I said, I was trying to keep my mod install list beyond MGSO to an absolute minimum!

I am not sure if that is the version of MEN I have, I downloaded it after Sept 2016 for certain, but it has been a while and I can't remember exactly. (I let the files just sit on my computer for a while before installing) It's more then likely the most up-to-date version though!

 

 

Those two files were generated alongside the other! I haven't tested specifically disabling them, I'll give it a shot and let you know what the result is.