NMM2 - Update and recruitment

[tanyferan]

NAMI

Nexus. Application. Mod. Installer.

 

[arpaschad]

but...but..do we need to watch a 2-hour long video to learn how it works? for idiots like me I just want to install my mods and remove them quick as pie...some notifications about what conflicts in my load order is appreciated though but any more complicated thingamajigs and I am back to using older versions of NMM...

[DontBlnkBadWolf]

I have a idea for a name of the new NMM:

 

GAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRYYYYYY!

[bubinga64]

In response to post #47493580.

Farvahar wrote: What I want to be able to do: have a person save their Skyrim configuration in toto and share it with other users as a file; the mod manager would then recreate that experience on my machine without all the hassle that goes with this currently. The manager would download the mods, set them up etc etc so as to create the same Skyrim experience as a mod master would be able to put together.

Their are guides that explain how to recreate an "ideal" Skyrim configuration, but they require far too much attention for novices and more casual players. For folks with little time to play around with all that, it deters from playing the game.

Im not saying it's impossible, but I wonder just how useful that feature would be unless it was only mods from this site and said configuration didn't have older mods that are now hidden or removed. Also keep in mind that many people tweak mods so you may not get the intended effect.

[lued123]

In response to post #47393330. #47394385, #47409845, #47410090, #47410120, #47411905, #47414300, #47426290, #47432345, #47459325, #47461520, #47462670, #47465445, #47470155, #47470175 are all replies on the same post.

TheShoxter wrote: How about calling it Vortex? It's going to be the all-in-one perfect mod manager it seems, so the name represents the combinations of functions all coming together. It also sounds dope.

Current Nexus logo can already be appropriated for this name, it resembles a swirling vortex.

dark_wizzie wrote: Vortex, the ultimate in mod management!!!

GenBloodhorn wrote: Not bad really. Its nice. +1

kazuakisama wrote: I agree. Also avoids confusion with old NMM.

+1

bunnyman280 wrote: Vortex does sound cooler

AedanClarke wrote: Of all the suggestions I've seen, I personally like Vortex the most by far. It sounds cool, is quick to say, quick to type, and isn't a boring acronym.

+1

silencer711 wrote: I actually like Vortex a lot. It's a new name altogether and long name could be NVM (Nexus Vortex Manager) or something. I like VORTEX better than my own suggestion lol :)

IronGator454 wrote: Vortex sounds great! Its a name that sticks out and makes you think when you read it. It literally pulls you into it. Seems a very fitting name for such a great new manager. +1

BoltActionWaffl3 wrote: Vortex +1
Just hope they add a " Dark" UI option.

Darkarhon wrote: Vortex definitely sounds great.

emilking wrote: Hmm, I can't come up with anything better myself so yeah! Vortex for sure. +1

redbeaniez wrote: Vortex does sound cool as hell and really fits the Nexus logo.

dpcarr3 wrote: VORTEX!!!! Really like that for a name!!!

Sostrmnn wrote: That's a great idea! And Vortex goes perfectly with Nexus :)

Sostrmnn wrote:

Woops, double posted by mistake :(

Vortex seems pretty good, and when people are having trouble with it, they can joke that it's sucking away all their time and/or patience and/or sanity, so that's fun. Let's see...
Very Organized Really Trustworthy Extractor of eXtra content?
Never mind. That's horrible. Just Vortex.

[piperman123]

In response to post #47493580. #47500655 is also a reply to the same post.

Farvahar wrote: What I want to be able to do: have a person save their Skyrim configuration in toto and share it with other users as a file; the mod manager would then recreate that experience on my machine without all the hassle that goes with this currently. The manager would download the mods, set them up etc etc so as to create the same Skyrim experience as a mod master would be able to put together.

Their are guides that explain how to recreate an "ideal" Skyrim configuration, but they require far too much attention for novices and more casual players. For folks with little time to play around with all that, it deters from playing the game.

bubinga64 wrote: Im not saying it's impossible, but I wonder just how useful that feature would be unless it was only mods from this site and said configuration didn't have older mods that are now hidden or removed. Also keep in mind that many people tweak mods so you may not get the intended effect.

I can't second this enough, making it so we can share modded games without depriving modders of their downloads would be sweet AF! Would also be a tremendous help with troubleshooting I imagine. Letting more experienced modders or mod authors tweak certain things or quickly produce patches, reproduce and narrow down user issues etc. As for people using tweaked esps, no reason why after the manager downloads that mod it can't copy (or the users can manually share) the tweaked versions or direct each other to mods downloaded from elsewhere which is probably far fewer than those used from here anyway.

Plus I spend weeks messing with mods and it would be great to be able to share some of my 'ultra modded' setups with friends who aren't as experienced or willing to put the time into learning or setting things up but have seen my version of Skyrim and would like to play it too or even help troubleshoot and test things as they play more than I do or while I continue to play about with modding further.

+1 for sure!

[mattloki]

In response to post #47393330. #47394385, #47409845, #47410090, #47410120, #47411905, #47414300, #47426290, #47432345, #47459325, #47461520, #47462670, #47465445, #47470155, #47470175, #47506420 are all replies on the same post.

TheShoxter wrote: How about calling it Vortex? It's going to be the all-in-one perfect mod manager it seems, so the name represents the combinations of functions all coming together. It also sounds dope.

Current Nexus logo can already be appropriated for this name, it resembles a swirling vortex.

dark_wizzie wrote: Vortex, the ultimate in mod management!!!

GenBloodhorn wrote: Not bad really. Its nice. +1

kazuakisama wrote: I agree. Also avoids confusion with old NMM.

+1

bunnyman280 wrote: Vortex does sound cooler

AedanClarke wrote: Of all the suggestions I've seen, I personally like Vortex the most by far. It sounds cool, is quick to say, quick to type, and isn't a boring acronym.

+1

silencer711 wrote: I actually like Vortex a lot. It's a new name altogether and long name could be NVM (Nexus Vortex Manager) or something. I like VORTEX better than my own suggestion lol :)

IronGator454 wrote: Vortex sounds great! Its a name that sticks out and makes you think when you read it. It literally pulls you into it. Seems a very fitting name for such a great new manager. +1

BoltActionWaffl3 wrote: Vortex +1
Just hope they add a " Dark" UI option.

Darkarhon wrote: Vortex definitely sounds great.

emilking wrote: Hmm, I can't come up with anything better myself so yeah! Vortex for sure. +1

redbeaniez wrote: Vortex does sound cool as hell and really fits the Nexus logo.

dpcarr3 wrote: VORTEX!!!! Really like that for a name!!!

Sostrmnn wrote: That's a great idea! And Vortex goes perfectly with Nexus :)

Sostrmnn wrote:

Woops, double posted by mistake :(

lued123 wrote: Vortex seems pretty good, and when people are having trouble with it, they can joke that it's sucking away all their time and/or patience and/or sanity, so that's fun. Let's see...
Very Organized Really Trustworthy Extractor of eXtra content?
Never mind. That's horrible. Just Vortex.

+1 from me

[acffordyce973]

In response to post #47465120. #47466930, #47466955, #47483355 are all replies on the same post.

acffordyce973 wrote: With the way that you treated your old Mod Manager (which was in development for a while and actually worked almost perfectly), why should we trust in you to not just drop this new Mod Manager once it becomes the norm again? I'm really baffled as to why you would waste all that work and instead switch to a new program instead of just adding to and fixing the old version.

Dark0ne wrote: That was explained in great detail in the announcement post for the new mod manager. If you can't understand it from the description I gave, in length, about why we are doing it, then I don't think you'll ever get it, so there's no point trying!

Dark0ne wrote: That was explained in great detail in the announcement post for the new mod manager. If you can't understand it from the description I gave, in length, about why we are doing it, then I don't think you'll ever get it, so there's no point trying!

ff7legend wrote: First off, the NMM Legacy version is running off code over a decade old. It's slower than molasses & hasn't been updated code-wise since the days of the old FOMM (Fallout Mod Manager)/OMM (Oblivion Mod Manager) at the very least. The code Legacy NMM runs on is simply too old to run in these modern computing times. Everything is moving over to HTML5/x64 & NMM needs to be able to support modern code/computing.

For a start thanks for replying, didn't expect that, and my apologies for not having time to read everything on the site. That "Big changes for the Nexus Mod Manager..." post doesn't fully answer my initial question of "why should we trust in you to not just drop" it again. It answers my second part, in a way (a lot of software available is made on old code bases and improved over the years), but I can see the logic behind wanting to switch to something that's nicer to develop with. What worries me is what you said about previous developers that are "constantly stymied by code that is long past its prime by developers who have long since moved on from the community". I suppose with someone being paid, there shouldn't be much issue with things not getting done in the short term, but what about the long term? If and when a new developer comes along, aren't they just going to face the same issue that's being faced now? Then again, I suppose the same could be said about any project really, but when it's related to games that change every year the people who are working on it may just give in the towel because they don't like the new. Edited February 12, 2017 by acffordyce973

[crystaldragon141]

In response to post #47393330. #47394385, #47409845, #47410090, #47410120, #47411905, #47414300, #47426290, #47432345, #47459325, #47461520, #47462670, #47465445, #47470155, #47470175, #47506420, #47508675 are all replies on the same post.

TheShoxter wrote: How about calling it Vortex? It's going to be the all-in-one perfect mod manager it seems, so the name represents the combinations of functions all coming together. It also sounds dope.

Current Nexus logo can already be appropriated for this name, it resembles a swirling vortex.

dark_wizzie wrote: Vortex, the ultimate in mod management!!!

GenBloodhorn wrote: Not bad really. Its nice. +1

kazuakisama wrote: I agree. Also avoids confusion with old NMM.

+1

bunnyman280 wrote: Vortex does sound cooler

AedanClarke wrote: Of all the suggestions I've seen, I personally like Vortex the most by far. It sounds cool, is quick to say, quick to type, and isn't a boring acronym.

+1

silencer711 wrote: I actually like Vortex a lot. It's a new name altogether and long name could be NVM (Nexus Vortex Manager) or something. I like VORTEX better than my own suggestion lol :)

IronGator454 wrote: Vortex sounds great! Its a name that sticks out and makes you think when you read it. It literally pulls you into it. Seems a very fitting name for such a great new manager. +1

BoltActionWaffl3 wrote: Vortex +1
Just hope they add a " Dark" UI option.

Darkarhon wrote: Vortex definitely sounds great.

emilking wrote: Hmm, I can't come up with anything better myself so yeah! Vortex for sure. +1

redbeaniez wrote: Vortex does sound cool as hell and really fits the Nexus logo.

dpcarr3 wrote: VORTEX!!!! Really like that for a name!!!

Sostrmnn wrote: That's a great idea! And Vortex goes perfectly with Nexus :)

Sostrmnn wrote:

Woops, double posted by mistake :(

lued123 wrote: Vortex seems pretty good, and when people are having trouble with it, they can joke that it's sucking away all their time and/or patience and/or sanity, so that's fun. Let's see...
Very Organized Really Trustworthy Extractor of eXtra content?
Never mind. That's horrible. Just Vortex.

mattloki wrote: +1 from me

Just thought I'd jump in and say that I also love the name Vortex!

[saurusmaximus]

Looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with. One of the reasons I resisted switching from NMM to MO for so long was the fact that NMM is easy to use. Yes, MO is a superior product, but it also has a steep learning curve that casual users generally don't want to take the time to learn. If you really can bridge that gap, I'll be duly impressed.

 

Of course, I don't relish the idea of having to re-install my Skyrim mod setup yet again, but such is life :)