kasrawy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 *****This might be spoilerish for people that did not play this part yet***** So did anyone else find the civil wars kinda... weak? I mean they could've been grander with more people being involved. For example: the part where you are to invade Windhelm/Solitude you aren't even met with any resistance until you're in the city gates, no platoons outside no gate ramming, scorching oil pouring action. It might just be me but I believe that the civil wars could've been better if Beth took a leaf from say the LoTR wars in the movies for example. I don't know if this requires the CK or not but I hope someone tries doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undedavenger Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I thought much the same, but with this engine, there's not a lot you can do without bogging down FPS on even the most advanced systems. I do agree that the invader camps should not be right outside the walls, and you should have to fight your way to the city. Also, what's with the only barriers being those weak little log fences? I loved in Oblivion how you had to sneak into Kvatch to raise the palace gates. Something like that would be nice. Or at least having the city locked and you have the option of breaking the door or finding the captain of the guard for his keys or something. The civil war missions could use a lot of expansion, as they're basically glorified hack and slash set pieces. A little strategy would be nice. And maybe if someone gets mounted combat into the game, a nice Cavalry charge or two. And once you get in the walls, have anyone that is off the walls stop sniping with their arrows, switching to melee and try to sweep the invaders back. Also, more advancement in the Imperials or Stormcloaks. In the Imperial wuest, you get made a Legate, but are still a common foot soldier. It would be nice to lead a cohort separate from Rikki's, with a different objective. Say, you have a conversation with Rikki or Tullius before the battle, (required by quest anyway) in which you choose whether to sneak in through a secondary entrance, ram the main gate, or stand back to support with ranged magic and archery. Whatever you choose, Rikki and Tullius would take their own cohorts for the other tasks. This would make you feel more like a commander and add some depth to city sieges. Also, the victorious leader at the end of the civil war instructs you to go your own way or help clearing out the remaining opposition, but there are no real quests, other than stumbling onto the opposing faction's camps or whatnot and slashing them up. I think a few more missions would be nice. Also, I would like the opportunity to switch sides mid-war since both sides have their good and bad points. Also, a real Moot at the end where Elsif or Ulfric is crowned. Or add a third quest-based option where you can marry Elisif and be crowned, or usurp Ulfric as the bigoted scumbag he is and take his place yourself. At least the new ruler should make you a Jarl for your trouble. A lot of stuff, i know, but the Civil War questline is the only one that really left me cold. Edited January 23, 2012 by undedavenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borborygmus Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 agreed, after the awsome battle of whiterun, i expected the war to just get better an better. i would love to see a mod where such battle coulld randomly occur at any town (or bridge) could occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohdude Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 THE SIEGE OF SOLITUDE AND WHITERUN WERE FAILS FOR ME,IT WAS PLAIN BORING.So you just go in with a small squad of nords while the other Stormcloaks have a tea party back at the catapults,and go one shot every guard,then kick the jarl's arse,that "jarl" can't even fight properly. So that is why I screamed out loud : OD-AAAH-VIING! as soon as I was inside the city walls,my dear dragon pwned everybody and cleared the way for me,while I decapitated some nub guards with my huge daedric greatsword. You can try Wars in Skyrim IV mod : http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6176 It's a great mod,but the battles are smaller,like the mod description says,a group of villagers preparing to fight a troll.Just like what the companions did when you first arrived at Whiterun :D I don't know if the guy's planning to make large-scale battles like this,but I hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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