Would'nt There Be a Bigger Religious Presence in a Post Apocolyptic World?

[Moraelin]

It's jusrt similar to any group of ideology fanatics, which is what they are; no need to call it a sect.

[montky]

@Moraelin

indeed and well said re post #59

If modders want to take the time and effort to make mods,

there's no reason they can't make those mods happen.

I'd like to see what folks come up with!

 

 

 

it's all about user-customization and FORPG/GURPS.

some folks like Fallout to be a 'linear' experience, a mission-based, fixed experience that cannot be variable etc.

that's cool. That's basically a re-skin of CoD or Battlefield etc, though cool.

 

some folks like to be able to customize fallout.

some folks like that there are choices and a vast number of game-states.

if a player wants to role-play in FO4 as a whatever... why not?

conversely if a person wants to play the game the way Bethesda intended,

or remove stuff such as Children of Atom, BoS + Enclave... why not?

that's their continuity for them.

 

I've seen elsewhere and agree with folks noticing a pattern to number of endgame gamestates in FO4 relative to past titles like

FO3, FONV etc... FO4 is much more linear, and assumes a particular pastiche of possible playthroughs as the assumptive bedrock of the 'continuity' of FO4...

 

BoS players for example were very much divided after FO4.

some BoS players regard the BoS as very distinct from The Enclave, so the linear story arc for the BoS in FO4 was a huge let-down,

and not consistent with their interpretation of the BoS from past games...

 

It would be like if the Empire were suddenly Rebels in a re-remaster of Star Wars...

or, you know, if the Enclave were entirely missing... etc.

 

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though, we're not discussing the litigious aspect involved here.

many real-world belief groups and spiritualisms,

they zealously guard their percepts and "IP".

many different beliefs, from all around the world, take infringements of their likeness

and representations of them, very seriously.

 

from that standpoint, and given the history with comparatively benign things such as

Nuka Cola (originally Coke-Cola in FO1 and FO2)...

it makes sense to anticipate and avoid any unnecessary complications to a company like Bethesda

from litigiousness from third parties.

 

 

[Ethreon]

BoS is a quasi-religious group akin to the Templars, I'd say.

 

And again, there is plenty of religions, cults, beliefs and whatnot, they're plenty present. I don't feel the need to force religious movements in even more.

[Moraelin]

Well, dunno about the others, but I wasn't asking for either more or less religion. I was just shooting the breeze about what is and what isn't in the game.

[Moksha8088]

Perhaps the Followers of Talos would make a comeback given the right circumstances if survivors had access to past popular software games from the Robco/Bethesda Combine, Inc.

[Funeralwolf]

Didn't we get enough religion with Skyrim? The Children of Atom were certainly enough too. As most of the Brotherhood is military orientated and mission first, it would've been nice to gave at least a partly holy side to them. Maybe just a set order of 'scribes'? Man I miss the fully expanded BoS from F3.

Edited March 15, 2017 by Funeralwolf

[Greslin]

To be honest, we don't really get much "religion" in Fallout (which is fine by me). Most of the cults are really just elaborate scams, some taken farther than others. You can extrapolate that to a point about religion IRL if you want - that's not my point here.

 

I don't personally think that broad, organized religion - the kind of deity-led, multigenerational organizing social force that played out in, say, A Canticle for Leibowitz - would have much of a presence in the Fallout universe. What would happen, and does, is a whole lot of superstition. Three on a match, that sort of thing. Whatever little mental shorthand rules of thumb people need to get through the day. There would be plenty of opportunistic little groups ready to capitalize on that, but few with long term legs (NCR, CL, BOS, etc. notwithstanding).

 

My sense has always been that the Fallout survivors in general have a deep distrust of large social groups. The towns are always relatively small. Cults, likewise. Lots of loners. It's almost as though, the last time lots and lots of people got themselves organized into a big, cohesive group, something bad happened or something. I dunno - people are weird.

Edited March 15, 2017 by Greslin

[Moraelin]

Well, yeah, I was just thinking that even the COA only have a very superficial resemblance to actual RL religions.

[Moksha8088]

A likely scenario for religious discussion could happen just about any Saturday afternoon when you are hanging around your pad in Diamond City just chillin' and knocking back a Gwinnett's Stout, when you hear a knock at the door and find two young men holding a Book of Talos and asking, "What do you know about Joseph Heimskr and would you like to learn more?" You look puzzled and ask, "What is it about?" By then one of the young men has put his foot in the door and explains, "It's all about great battles and how a savior was sent by Talos to save us from Alduin the World-Eater". By then you want to hear more so you invite them in and have them sit on the Vault-tec sofa to explain more about the story long suppressed by the synths of the Aldmeri Dominion.

[Ethreon]

A likely scenario for religious discussion could happen just about any Saturday afternoon when you are hanging around your pad in Diamond City just chillin' and knocking back a Gwinnett's Stout, when you hear a knock at the door and find two young men holding a Book of Talos and asking, "What do you know about Joseph Heimskr and would you like to learn more?" You look puzzled and ask, "What is it about?" By then one of the young men has put his foot in the door and explains, "It's all about great battles and how a savior was sent by Talos to save us from Alduin the World-Eater". By then you want to hear more so you invite them in and have them sit on the Vault-tec sofa to explain more about the story long suppressed by the synths of the Aldmeri Dominion.

I'd close my door. They can shove it.