Vagrant0 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 They could be focusing more on laptop and handheld processors. It wouldn't be all that bad of a move really since these devices typically have less power to work with and are more prone to heat issues. If they put more focus into increasing output while keeping these factors down, they could likely do better than intel chips, which are known to get very hot in most laptops. And portable is where things will eventually end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofhearted4 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 there is no way I am paying $1,000 for a performance-equivalent to AMD CPUs. buddy if you pay that, your getting ripped the F off lol. (i realize your being sarcastic....or at least i think you are lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan3345 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 there is no way I am paying $1,000 for a performance-equivalent to AMD CPUs. buddy if you pay that, your getting ripped the F off lol. (i realize your being sarcastic....or at least i think you are lol) lol I was going to say that too. I am certainly not an Intel fanboy, but an i5 2500K will run about 250$ ($30 bucks more than an 1100T) and yet it runs cooler, is more powerful, much more overclockable, and is on a 32nm die which means it is more efficient and as previously stated runs cooler. Intel chips are not as expensive as most people think. I was pleasantly surprised once I got over the "I cannot afford Intel fear" and actually started looking at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) I'm foreseeing something far Worst SOPA, ACTA and PIPA ever dreamed to be. Don't be surprised your pristine machine coming as hardware DRMed like Sony's machine, let's say a few hackers may still circumvent the earlier TC implementations, but do you still believe is not the "common" user the target? for this may be the end to ever be able to search the Internet for "solutions" for whatever abuse IP ideology and marketing models can and will invent. Edited January 29, 2012 by nosisab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 the 2500k is basically the best CPU on the market right now. taking into account price. for gaming it probably is the best. Speak for yourself. I have a Phenom II X6 1100t in my desktop and it kicks butt for gaming, overclocked self automatically to an screaming level. It is not really possible to say what is the best CPU as they perform differently in each system and for each person. It's all very subjective. The i7 I have in the laptop certainly doesn't outperform the AMD, good though it is. Benchmarks are all well and good, but they give no indication to a lay person like me how it will perform in real life. there is no way I am paying $1,000 for a performance-equivalent to AMD CPUs. buddy if you pay that, your getting ripped the F off lol. (i realize your being sarcastic....or at least i think you are lol) lol I was going to say that too. I am certainly not an Intel fanboy, but an i5 2500K will run about 250$ ($30 bucks more than an 1100T) and yet it runs cooler, is more powerful, much more overclockable, and is on a 32nm die which means it is more efficient and as previously stated runs cooler. Intel chips are not as expensive as most people think. I was pleasantly surprised once I got over the "I cannot afford Intel fear" and actually started looking at them. Intel chips are considerably more expensive than AMD in the UK, check out this site which is the one I get my components from; Overclockers UK -over in the USA maybe you can get keener prices. That's why I am filled with trepidation about this move. Give Intel the monopoly and we will be stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofhearted4 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 the 2500k is basically the best CPU on the market right now. taking into account price. for gaming it probably is the best. Speak for yourself. I have a Phenom II X6 1100t in my desktop and it kicks butt for gaming, overclocked self automatically to an screaming level. It is not really possible to say what is the best CPU as they perform differently in each system and for each person. It's all very subjective. The i7 I have in the laptop certainly doesn't outperform the AMD, good though it is. Benchmarks are all well and good, but they give no indication to a lay person like me how it will perform in real life. gaming benchmarks do give a real life representation of the performance of the chip....saying the 2500k is the best CPU on the market right now, isnt saying no other CPU on the market is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarissi Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 the 2500k is basically the best CPU on the market right now. taking into account price. for gaming it probably is the best. Speak for yourself. I have a Phenom II X6 1100t in my desktop and it kicks butt for gaming, overclocked self automatically to an screaming level. It is not really possible to say what is the best CPU as they perform differently in each system and for each person. It's all very subjective. The i7 I have in the laptop certainly doesn't outperform the AMD, good though it is. Benchmarks are all well and good, but they give no indication to a lay person like me how it will perform in real life. gaming benchmarks do give a real life representation of the performance of the chip....saying the 2500k is the best CPU on the market right now, isnt saying no other CPU on the market is worth it. Gaming benchmarks are for gamers. 3D CG benchmarks are for VFX houses like ILM and Weta Digital, or those of us who do this as a hobby or small business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMod Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 There is a couple tasks in which Phenom 1100T beats i7-2600K. In a Phenom 1100T vs i5-2500K comparison, Phenom performs better in quite a few non-gaming tasks. It's only games where 2500K is best hands down. That said, AMD should have just released Phenom III, a few improvements here and there, an extra pipeline and a new tech node, rather than bother with Bulldozer... bummer. Phenom III on 32nm with even just 5%-10% per-clock gain over Phenom II would be a strong competitor to all Intels up to 2600K and 3930K, for everything other than gaming. Since Phenom cores are fairly small, they could have 12-core desktop CPU by now, just by placing two Thuban-like sets side by side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korodic Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 bulldozer sucked, but that is not reason to stop doing desktops... EDIT: IF AMD DOES DROP FROM MAKING DESKTOP CPU'S THEN I WILL *NOT* BUY THEIR MOBILE ONES. WHO'S WITH ME? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan3345 Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 I'm foreseeing something far Worst SOPA, ACTA and PIPA ever dreamed to be. Don't be surprised your pristine machine coming as hardware DRMed like Sony's machine, let's say a few hackers may still circumvent the earlier TC implementations, but do you still believe is not the "common" user the target? for this may be the end to ever be able to search the Internet for "solutions" for whatever abuse IP ideology and marketing models can and will invent.Is anyone else trying to figure out how this is related to the topic? Anyhow, I will am definitely done buying AMD. My next CPU (which i will by March) will be the i5 2500K and I don't care if it is outperformed by the 1100T in non-gaming platforms, because benchmarks say otherwise, and gaming is what I do. AMD brought this on themselves. Maybe later I will tell you all my latest experience with AMD and why I am no longer buying from them ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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