JamesAutumn Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 With the current load order stated above from me i have tried several things. -Removing and reinstalling mods appropriately through loot and checking for errors in f04edit-Starting on a clean new game with no mods installed. In regards to playing with no mods, it worked but i think the main point i'm seeking help on is getting the companions to work with mods. I love modding my games so it's only natural i want things to feel like a smooth transition and not a mess. So the main focus of my seeking help is to get advice/help on why i'm having this issue with mods enabled. The clean new game i did was proof the base game seems to be alright. The mods installed one by one still seem to be fine. But it feels like once i progress to a certain extent the followers will stop in there tracks. To answer a previous post on when it started happening. Real people i dunno cause i work and sleep so that's lost on me. I'd say once i got to diamond city and recruited piper and rescued nick is when i started noticing the issue arising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horouboi Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 i have a theory that has taken me all of this morning to create.... i call it the pip pad/nora companion theory...see i never uninstalled pippad and decided to just say f'it and use it through the starting part on a new save.... also i wanted my nora companion now instead of waiting till diamond city, so i consoled a nora grenade and got her.... now onto the theory, i downloaded a savehttp://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/70/?and used that so i could test "no mods and test-meat... i mean dogmeat >_>" and well the dog worked fine and then when i coc'd to diamond city's entry and went through pipers bs and went inside diamond city and did her test, she also worked (yes i do have a unlimted companion mod) but then when i went inside the dugout bar she went inside with me... YAY!!! so i tried to dissmiss her, she wouldn't let me into the talk function.... >_>so now i'm off to try making a new save and not having pippad and nora companion and seeing if this somehow fixes anything....As a note... THANK GOD for Transfer Settlements cause well with out it, i'd be so pissed >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkemman11 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Well. Some progress at least. You both know your base game is fine. The author for the Pip-Pad states to not start a new game with it installed. So I would just run base game and slowly activate 10 mods at a time until I see where the problem is. Try to focus on mods you installed recently first. What you are looking for- I think- is anything that might affect followers or the navmeshes in the game. Wish I could help more. Good luck! :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horouboi Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 what type of mods would screw up the navmesh though? and would unlimited companion framework screw with anything, cause so far i think theres a issue with it.... but i'm very 50/50 on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucksteel Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 World editing mod ones that add new interiors, Worlds or places to explore could break the navemesh and followers entering buildings. One of the early Beth updates changed something and my mod Beantown Interiors needed an update because followers would no longer enter my interiors. (this didn't affect vanilla interiors just ones I added) It was a simple but annoying patch where I just had to go and update all of my navemesh. but, I would look at any mods you have that do add new locations check to see if they have been updated. I'm only making a guess here though and it is a possibility that it's just an out of date mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horouboi Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 cool i'll look into that, thanks for the help on understanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hall1385 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I am having the same issue as well :( i've tried the clean install and no luck...i've disabled all my mods and tried to run the game that way and no luck as well. I've run loot order as well no luck there....dont know whats going on. I also notice that vault 81 is messed up...the kids never go to class and some stand on the desk if they do decide to show up to class..here's my load order 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 Robot Home Defence.esm 8 8 DLC_MainMenu.esm 9 9 Snap'n Build.esm 10 a Homemaker.esm 11 b ArmorKeywords.esm 12 c CompanionHonestDan.esp 13 d SimSettlements.esm 14 e Red Rocket Settlements.esp 15 f Vault111Settlement.esp 16 10 More Armor Slots - All Dlc.esp 17 11 More Armor Slots - All Dlc - AWKCR.esp 18 12 Armorsmith Extended.esp 19 13 Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp 20 14 WastelandScarf.esp 21 15 WastelandScarfExtended.esp 22 16 PipeTurret.esp 23 17 DisgustSettleTurretSet.esp 24 18 Kat's New Hairstyles1.4.esp 25 19 CBBE.esp 26 1a Eli_ArmourCollection.esp 27 1b CROSS_Cybernetics.esp 28 1c Adler.esp 29 1d AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp 30 1e The Sophisticate Collection.esp 31 1f el_AgentOutfit.esp 32 20 DOOMMAC11.esp 33 21 ImmersiveVendors.esp 34 22 Mascot Head Armors.esp 35 23 LegendaryModification.esp 36 24 LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp 37 25 BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp 38 26 JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp 39 27 FIXEDGoodfeels_no_DLC_needed.esp 40 28 ModdableGoodfeels.esp 41 29 TrueReporter.esp 42 2a Deathclaw Hunter Armor.esp 43 2b ZellaHairDye.esp 44 2c THBrows.esp 45 2d LovingCurie_1.0.3b.esp 46 2e Mikasa Wasteland .esp 47 2f AutomatronSecuritron.esp 48 30 KSHairdos.esp 49 31 Classic vault suit.esp 50 32 Toxic Raider Armour.esp 51 33 HN66-SiriusArmor.esp 52 34 Motoko Hair.esp 53 35 Evil Detective Outfit.esp 54 36 5x XP for Kills.esp 55 37 DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp 56 38 DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp 57 39 S_Uniform_F.esp 58 3a S_Uniform_M.esp 59 3b Sanctury Revamped[Green Version].esp 60 3c SST-SunshineTidings-Overhaul.esp 61 3d SettlementWestEverettEstates.esp 62 3e StartMeUp.esp 63 3f AbernathySpring.esp 64 40 3DNPC_FO4.esp 65 41 AnyModAnyWeapon2.esp 66 42 NordhagenHaven.esp 67 43 [VS] Fairline Hill Estates Re-Settled - v2.esp 68 44 someville.esp 69 45 UniversityPointSettlementSPE.esp 70 46 MojaveImports.esp 71 47 ASVektor.esp 72 48 BlasTech E-11.esp 73 49 CochituateLakefrontSettlement.esp 74 4a Ralph.esp 75 4b SKAElvis.esp 76 4c BeastWhisperer.esp 77 4d Northland Diggers New.esp 78 4e CutWeaponModsRestored.esp 79 4f Extended weapon mods.esp 80 50 10mmRevolver.esp 81 51 m82a.esp 82 52 Wintermute.esp 83 53 CutWeaponModsRestored-Automatron.esp 84 54 CutWeaponModsRestored-FarHarbor.esp 85 55 CutWeaponModsRestored-NukaWorld.esp 86 56 Headcrab_Bunny.esp 87 57 Crimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.esp 88 58 Snap'n Build - Roofs.esp 89 59 Snappy_HouseK.esp 90 5a Snappy_HouseKBase.esp 91 5b Snappy_DecoKit.esp 92 5c Snappy_BldgShell.esp 93 5d GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp 94 5e SnB - Windows.esp 95 5f SettleObjExpandPack.esp 96 60 DLC_PATCH_Full.esp 97 61 MiscHairstyle.esp 98 62 Bloomers.esp 99 63 EferasShoulderBag.esp100 64 WindowBoards.esp101 65 Flags.esp102 66 AWARHERO Japanese Decor Pack.esp103 67 Femshepping_wanderercollection.esp104 68 Lore Friendly Flags.esp105 69 SciFiPosters.esp106 6a GunPosters.esp107 6b NaziItems.esp108 6c Coat Standalone.esp109 6d RHDaddon.esp110 6e Graffity2ElectricBoogaloo.esp111 6f SovietPosters.esp112 70 zWGirlClothSimply.esp113 71 el_precursorsuit.esp114 72 SSUniform.esp115 73 Concept Outfits.esp116 74 Alternate Armor Upgrade System.esp117 75 RaiderOverhaul.esp118 76 PipeShotgun.esp119 77 PipeShotgun-AWKCR.esp120 78 SimpleSynthCompanion.esp121 79 HatswithHair.esp122 7a Alternate Armor Upgrade System - Automatron.esp123 7b Alternate Armor Upgrade System - Far Habor.esp124 7c Alternate Armor Upgrade System - Vault-Tec.esp125 7d Edit_Hancock.esp126 7e Chainsaw.esp127 7f DLCTameCreatureFix.esp128 80 Business Settlements.esp129 81 Fashionable Valentine.esp130 82 RezSettlerMakeover.esp131 83 no crafting xp.esp132 84 SPECIAL40.esp133 85 FiddlersGreenTL.esp134 86 AA FusionCityRising.esp135 87 DOOMLK05.esp136 88 Fusion Gun.esp137 89 Crossbow.esp138 8a Mauser.esp139 8b MP153.esp140 8c 3DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp141 8d noexfromint.esp142 8e Harness-calyps.esp143 8f HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp144 90 MMsLaserRCW.esp145 91 tschutschiSpearheadCatsuit.esp146 92 DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp147 93 LooksMenu.esp148 94 DX Adventurer Outfit.esp149 95 DX_Overboss_Outfit.esp150 96 DX_Atom_Girl_Outfit.esp151 97 rpampas.esp152 98 Tina's Candy Land.esp153 99 AssaultRifle02.esp154 9a Crimsomrider's Amazonian Princess.esp155 9b CrazyEarlsScrapyard.esp156 9c CrazyEarlsScrapyard_Lite.esp157 9d CUSTOM ARMORS.esp158 9e Snap and Build - Capsule.esp159 9f wasterArmor.esp160 a0 Eli_RuggedOutfits.esp161 a1 Eli_Apocalypse Attire.esp162 a2 PlantMe.esp163 a3 MOAR Turrets.esp164 a4 MOAR Turrets - No Power Requirement.esp165 a5 WRVR.esp166 a6 Minutemenoverhaul.esp167 a7 DLC_MainMenu_Handplaced.esp168 a8 Jalbert Brothers Disposal Settlement.esp169 a9 MaxwellsWorl.esp170 aa Presets Edit.esp171 ab 2Tommy2Morrissey.esp172 ac UniqueUniques.esp173 ad FahrenheitComp.esp174 ae MollieGoodweather.esp175 af Elizabeth_Companion.esp176 b0 Conquest.esp177 b1 CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp178 b2 Scavvers of the Commonwealth.esp179 b3 DelyteOutfits.esp180 b4 DD_AIO Test Mark 1.esp181 b5 WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp182 b6 SSEX.esp183 b7 City of Quincy.esp184 b8 CroupEstate.esp185 b9 ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp186 ba TakahashiSecond.esp187 bb MakeYourOwnSynths.esp188 bc JamaicaPlainExpansion.esp189 bd ellen.esp190 be DOOMRhino.esp191 bf Lever-Action Carbines.esp192 c0 AsukaClothOfficer.esp193 c1 VarmintRifle.esp194 c2 DX_Black_Widow.esp195 c3 DolphinianFollower.esp196 c4 CompVictoria.esp197 c5 Leyla the Companion.esp198 c6 BNPA_NAVI Armor.esp199 c7 OWR.esp200 c8 GunslingerOF.esp201 c9 Plasma Cycler.esp202 ca Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp203 cb LightsaberMod.esp204 cc VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp205 cd LovingPiper-TrueReporterSE.esp206 ce LegendaryModificationMisc.esp207 cf LegendaryModificationCSA.esp208 d0 LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp209 d1 LacyFeatheredDresses.esp210 d2 AE-LacyDressPlugin.esp211 d3 Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp212 d4 CivilDefensePosters.esp213 d5 SignsOfTheTimesPosters.esp214 d6 Kimono Outfit.esp215 d7 KatanaPilTest.esp216 d8 Thematic and Practical.esp217 d9 Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp218 da Clem1.esp219 db LovingCait.esp220 dc Terry.esp221 dd ZerasPaintings.esp222 de AWARHERO Chinese Decor Pack.esp223 df AWARHERO_Decor_Pack.esp224 e0 g2m_FishFarmBridges.esp225 e1 FAC_paintings.esp any help or advice would be helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkemman11 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 @ hall1385. If you are having that problem with NO mods installed then you can verify you game files at Steam. If that doesn't help then you will likely need to reinstall FO4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hall1385 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 thanks for the help ill run my game with no mods and then go from there thanks again :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesAutumn Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) The companion glitch happened for me on my new save after i did a minute man mission at corvega and turned it in to preston. Since then i have had no followers follow me in and out of buildings. EDIT: When i noticed preston stopped all my followers from going into buildings with me, i thankfully had a save that was only 20 minutes behind. When i went back i was very careful to engage preston in dialog that would cause him to be recruited by me. Since the past two hours he and dogmeat have both followed me in and out of various cells including diamon city shops like fallons and back street apparel. Underground bunkers for minutemen quests like abernathy's daughters lockett. Will continue testing EDIT 2: I also disable one minuteman radiant quest at a time. Edited March 18, 2017 by JamesAutumn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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