Trump launches military strike against Syria

[TheMastersSon]

"If you overthrow Assad you get to build a pipeline. See, there is always a silver lining."

 

If it's anything like Iraq's pipelines, it would last precisely as long as U.S. forces were standing there to protect it.

 

Also, just so I understand your point, you're claiming the profits of Rex Tillerson's company (ExxonMobil) are a "silver lining" to the shedding of our kids' blood. If that's the case, whatever is beyond sick you've found it imo. If anyone wishes to stop this ongoing military adventurism and profiteering, and stop it immediately and permanently, simply pass a law (or even a constitutional amendment if necessary) that requires all eligible children of our elected representatives to enlist and serve combat duty FIRST, BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE'S CHILDREN, in all U.S. military actions.

 

I would have given anything to see the debates in the Cheney household about Iraq, if such a law had existed.

 

The underlying problem is that it's infinitely easier to send other peoples' children to fight and die than send your own.

 

Lastly, while Trump is busy fulfilling his role as lead actor in this scripted play to global catastrophe, China's fusion energy program continues uninterrupted. They're headed to the moon shortly to start helium-3 mining, and within five years (ten at most) both King Oil and King Dollar will be relegated to near-worthlessness. If you think this is delusional please save this post and refer back to it in five years. Or at least please read up on China's energy programs. Unlike our own political system, theirs is not driven by currency and it's highly doubtful that anything can or will stop their scheduled conversion to fusion energy.

Edited April 13, 2017 by TheMastersSon

[HeyYou]

"If you overthrow Assad you get to build a pipeline. See, there is always a silver lining."

 

If it's anything like Iraq's pipelines, it would last precisely as long as U.S. forces were standing there to protect it.

 

Also, just so I understand your point, you're claiming the profits of Rex Tillerson's company (ExxonMobil) are a "silver lining" to the shedding of our kids' blood. If that's the case, whatever is beyond sick you've found it imo. If anyone wishes to stop this ongoing military adventurism and profiteering, and stop it immediately and permanently, simply pass a law (or even a constitutional amendment if necessary) that requires all eligible children of our elected representatives to enlist and serve combat duty FIRST, BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE'S CHILDREN, in all U.S. military actions.

 

I would have given anything to see the debates in the Cheney household about Iraq, if such a law had existed.

 

The underlying problem is that it's infinitely easier to send other peoples' children to fight and die than send your own.

 

Lastly, while Trump is busy fulfilling his role as lead actor in this scripted play to global catastrophe, China's fusion energy program continues uninterrupted. They're headed to the moon shortly to start helium-3 mining, and within five years (ten at most) both King Oil and King Dollar will be relegated to near-worthlessness. If you think this is delusional please save this post and refer back to it in five years. Or at least please read up on China's energy programs. Unlike our own political system, theirs is not driven by currency and it's highly doubtful that anything can or will stop their scheduled conversion to fusion energy.

To date, no one has managed a fusion reactor that would be anything remotely close to 'commercially viable'. If China can manage that in the next 5 to 10 years, I would be seriously impressed. It would certainly have a dramatic effect on the world economy.

[TheMastersSon]

 

"If you overthrow Assad you get to build a pipeline. See, there is always a silver lining."

 

If it's anything like Iraq's pipelines, it would last precisely as long as U.S. forces were standing there to protect it.

 

Also, just so I understand your point, you're claiming the profits of Rex Tillerson's company (ExxonMobil) are a "silver lining" to the shedding of our kids' blood. If that's the case, whatever is beyond sick you've found it imo. If anyone wishes to stop this ongoing military adventurism and profiteering, and stop it immediately and permanently, simply pass a law (or even a constitutional amendment if necessary) that requires all eligible children of our elected representatives to enlist and serve combat duty FIRST, BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE'S CHILDREN, in all U.S. military actions.

 

I would have given anything to see the debates in the Cheney household about Iraq, if such a law had existed.

 

The underlying problem is that it's infinitely easier to send other peoples' children to fight and die than send your own.

 

Lastly, while Trump is busy fulfilling his role as lead actor in this scripted play to global catastrophe, China's fusion energy program continues uninterrupted. They're headed to the moon shortly to start helium-3 mining, and within five years (ten at most) both King Oil and King Dollar will be relegated to near-worthlessness. If you think this is delusional please save this post and refer back to it in five years. Or at least please read up on China's energy programs. Unlike our own political system, theirs is not driven by currency and it's highly doubtful that anything can or will stop their scheduled conversion to fusion energy.

To date, no one has managed a fusion reactor that would be anything remotely close to 'commercially viable'. If China can manage that in the next 5 to 10 years, I would be seriously impressed. It would certainly have a dramatic effect on the world economy.

 

We've been through this topic already. Skunk Works is claiming five years or less and $40B or less to commercial fusion power plants. That is less than a single year's federal tax subsidies to Mr. Tillerson's company.

[RGMage2]

"If you overthrow Assad you get to build a pipeline. See, there is always a silver lining."

 

If it's anything like Iraq's pipelines, it would last precisely as long as U.S. forces were standing there to protect it.

 

Also, just so I understand your point, you're claiming the profits of Rex Tillerson's company (ExxonMobil) are a "silver lining" to the shedding of our kids' blood. If that's the case, whatever is beyond sick you've found it imo.

 

Really? Seriously? Since I'm not sure if you get where I'm coming from I'll hold your hand through this. I was indulging in a bit of flippant irreverence with a touch of sarcasm and cynicism, in an attempt to shine a little light for anyone who wasn't aware, of a potential ulterior motive for your government's deep heartfelt concern for the plight of the Syrian people. No one does crocodile tears like an American President, Democrat or Republican - I figure it's probably a prerequisite for the job.

 

Anyway don't mind me, I'm harmless. Carry on saving the world.

[TheMastersSon]

I completely missed the sarcasm. Sorry. But in context you sure seemed to be justifying military involvement in Syria, e.g. "Sometimes the way to end it is to win it." etc. One takes statements at face value at least around here.

[Aurielius]

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[HeyYou]

 

 

"If you overthrow Assad you get to build a pipeline. See, there is always a silver lining."

 

If it's anything like Iraq's pipelines, it would last precisely as long as U.S. forces were standing there to protect it.

 

Also, just so I understand your point, you're claiming the profits of Rex Tillerson's company (ExxonMobil) are a "silver lining" to the shedding of our kids' blood. If that's the case, whatever is beyond sick you've found it imo. If anyone wishes to stop this ongoing military adventurism and profiteering, and stop it immediately and permanently, simply pass a law (or even a constitutional amendment if necessary) that requires all eligible children of our elected representatives to enlist and serve combat duty FIRST, BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE'S CHILDREN, in all U.S. military actions.

 

I would have given anything to see the debates in the Cheney household about Iraq, if such a law had existed.

 

The underlying problem is that it's infinitely easier to send other peoples' children to fight and die than send your own.

 

Lastly, while Trump is busy fulfilling his role as lead actor in this scripted play to global catastrophe, China's fusion energy program continues uninterrupted. They're headed to the moon shortly to start helium-3 mining, and within five years (ten at most) both King Oil and King Dollar will be relegated to near-worthlessness. If you think this is delusional please save this post and refer back to it in five years. Or at least please read up on China's energy programs. Unlike our own political system, theirs is not driven by currency and it's highly doubtful that anything can or will stop their scheduled conversion to fusion energy.

To date, no one has managed a fusion reactor that would be anything remotely close to 'commercially viable'. If China can manage that in the next 5 to 10 years, I would be seriously impressed. It would certainly have a dramatic effect on the world economy.

 

We've been through this topic already. Skunk Works is claiming five years or less and $40B or less to commercial fusion power plants. That is less than a single year's federal tax subsidies to Mr. Tillerson's company.

 

And we have been hearing those claims for decades, yet, we still don't have fusion power.

 

Just because someone says something, does not necessarily imply it is actually going to happen that way. I tend to take anything those folks have to say with a pound or so of salt.

[RGMage2]

I completely missed the sarcasm. Sorry. But in context you sure seemed to be justifying military involvement in Syria, e.g. "Sometimes the way to end it is to win it." etc. One takes statements at face value at least around here.

My apologies for any misunderstanding, I shouldn't have been so lazy, I should have put a little more effort into making myself understood.

 

"sometimes the way to end it is to win it" wasn't aimed specifically at Syria, though I might apply it to the Russian involvement there as they seem to be in the best position to bring this thing to a close if they were willing to make a full commitment. Of course that would mean a lot of dead Russian boys, and those kids don't deserve to die either.

 

That comment was really aimed at the philosophies of another poster, and saying that you can't always turn the other cheek and walk away, sometimes you have to fight. War is never desirable, and no leader should ever make the decision to go to war without a deep understanding of the grave consequences to your own people and the people you would war against. But if you must go to war, then the objective should be to win swiftly if you can, because dragging it out will only cause more misery.

[HeyYou]

 

I completely missed the sarcasm. Sorry. But in context you sure seemed to be justifying military involvement in Syria, e.g. "Sometimes the way to end it is to win it." etc. One takes statements at face value at least around here.

My apologies for any misunderstanding, I shouldn't have been so lazy, I should have put a little more effort into making myself understood.

 

"sometimes the way to end it is to win it" wasn't aimed specifically at Syria, though I might apply it to the Russian involvement there as they seem to be in the best position to bring this thing to a close if they were willing to make a full commitment. Of course that would mean a lot of dead Russian boys, and those kids don't deserve to die either.

 

That comment was really aimed at the philosophies of another poster, and saying that you can't always turn the other cheek and walk away, sometimes you have to fight. War is never desirable, and no leader should ever make the decision to go to war without a deep understanding of the grave consequences to your own people and the people you would war against. But if you must go to war, then the objective should be to win swiftly if you can, because dragging it out will only cause more misery.

 

That seems to be a lesson our government has forgotten.

[TheMastersSon]

 

 

I completely missed the sarcasm. Sorry. But in context you sure seemed to be justifying military involvement in Syria, e.g. "Sometimes the way to end it is to win it." etc. One takes statements at face value at least around here.

My apologies for any misunderstanding, I shouldn't have been so lazy, I should have put a little more effort into making myself understood.

 

"sometimes the way to end it is to win it" wasn't aimed specifically at Syria, though I might apply it to the Russian involvement there as they seem to be in the best position to bring this thing to a close if they were willing to make a full commitment. Of course that would mean a lot of dead Russian boys, and those kids don't deserve to die either.

 

That comment was really aimed at the philosophies of another poster, and saying that you can't always turn the other cheek and walk away, sometimes you have to fight. War is never desirable, and no leader should ever make the decision to go to war without a deep understanding of the grave consequences to your own people and the people you would war against. But if you must go to war, then the objective should be to win swiftly if you can, because dragging it out will only cause more misery.

 

That seems to be a lesson our government has forgotten.

 

As long as budget time rolls around every year, and the perpetually re-elected machine in our Congress continues to exist, they have been and can only be unable to learn that lesson. The last formal declaration of war in our country was in 1941, meanwhile between our ingrained military and defense establishment and the former USSR's, over $100 trillion of public money has been funnelled to these two machines since the end of WWII. Our Congress has decayed to the point where the "Patriot" Act was passed into law before a single U.S. senator had even read it. Etc. As long as our federal government continues operating in direct violation of our Bill of Rights, the American people have not only the right but the obligation to demand and if necessary force a return to constitutional law. At least according to the preamble of our Declaration of Independence.