Downloaded a compatability patch and now my mods are broken?

[EverChosen97]

doing a modded survival playthrough. I found some patches that allow Loads of ammo, VIS, and some standalone weapons compatible with each other, downloaded them and now quite a few of my mods arent working. Even after i deleted said patches and even LOA itself its still broken! Grasslands doesn't change anything, Full dialouge is not working, VIS and def UI aren't playing nice (no tabs or icons), and almost all of my modded weapons are now invisible and deal no damage but still make noise. I have no idea what caused this. Everything has been done through LOOT so could the load order be to blame?

Here is the load order:

Fallout4.esm=1

DLCRobot.esm=1

DLCworkshop01.esm=1

DLCCoast.esm=1

DLCworkshop02.esm=1

DLCworkshop03.esm=1

DLCNukaWorld.esm=1

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1

ArmorKeywords.esm=1

SimSettlements.esm=1

SpringCleaning.esm=1

SettlementKeywords.esm=1

TrueStormsFO4.esm=1

DLCUltraHighResolution.esm=1

You Talk Too Much.esp=1

dinoshelf.esp=1

dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp=1

Water Purification Stations.esp=1

BrighterSettlementLights.esp=1

ImmersiveVendors.esp=1

OCDecorator.esp=1

OCDispenser.esp=1

Workshop_Planters.esp=1

Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1

TurretStands.esp=1

GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp=1

SolarPower.esp=1

ArmoryRifleAndHandgunRacks.esp=1

RepairSanctuary.esp=1

SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp=1

realisticheadshots.esp=1

VeryHardIsOldSurvival.esp=1

timetravel.esp=1

SleepOrSave.esp=1

Take Shelter 1.0.esp=1

CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.esp=1

DV-Very Durable Vertibirds.esp=1

DV-Vertibird Explosive Minigun.esp=1

Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp=1

Grab and Eat.esp=1

ReadNotes.esp=1

LootableCars.esp=1

Locksmith.esp=1

Insignificant Object Remover.esp=1

Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp=1

DarkerNights.esp=1

DarkerNightsDetection.esp=1

True Nights v03.esp=1

Swinging Meat Bags.esp=1

RainofBrassPetals.esp=1

RadiantBirdsv05.esp=1

UniquePipboy.esp=1

PipBoyShadows.esp=1

CROSS_GoreCrits.esp=1

dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp=1

dD - Small Splatter Size.esp=1

X01Light.esp=1

BetterSettlers.esp=1

BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1

Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esp=1

Marmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.esp=1

LongerPowerLines3x.esp=1

AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1

SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp=1

ScrapDeadThings.esp=1

Scavver's Toolbox.esp=1

Publick Occurrences Expanded.esp=1

OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp=1

BountifulBoards.esp=1

BTInteriors_Project.esp=1

Cleaner Diamond City Indoor and Outdoor (No Fog).esp=1

MojaveImports.esp=1

ValdacilsItemSorting - WastelandImports TAGS.esp=1

Commonwealth_Livestock.esp=1

SettlementAttacksBeyondFH.esp=1

CrimeTown.esp=1

HAIA With Crafting.esp=1

CombatZoneRestored.esp=1

EveryonesBestFriend.esp=1

Give Me That Bottle.esp=1

45autoPistol.esp=1

Armorsmith Extended.esp=1

RaiderOverhaul.esp=1

ValdacilsItemSorting - Raider Overhaul TAGS - AE.esp=1

Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp=1

TrainBar.esp=1

CutWeaponModsRestored.esp=1

Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1

Scrapper Corpse Highlighting.esp=1

realpowerarmorv2base.esp=1

Weapons of Fate.esp=1

Tracers - Light em up.esp=1

MODspider.esp=1

QuazVehicleOverhaul.esp=1

SpringCleaningCompatibilityPatch.esp=1

Fusion Gun.esp=1

WZWildWasteland.esp=1

SuperMutantOverhaul.esp=1

MikeMooresMCAM.esp=1

PCDugSIMAddon.esp=1

PCDugBuildAWall.esp=1

Minutemen Supply Caches.esp=1

WET.esp=1

UniqueUniques.esp=1

Orphans.esp=1

CommonwealthChallenges.esp=1

9mmPistol.esp=1

Bozar.esp=1

AssaultRifletoMachineGun.esp=1

Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp=1

DOOMMAC11.esp=1

powerofatom.esp=1

MMsLaserRCW.esp=1

PipeShotgun.esp=1

PipeShotgun-AWKCR.esp=1

ShellThrow.esp=1

Lasers Have No Recoil.esp=1

10mmRevolver.esp=1

Skibs-WHMk22Redux.esp=1

BPB_Classic_R.esp=1

AlienAssaultRifle.esp=1

AlienAssaultRifle-Sorting.esp=1

Vault-Tec_MPL.esp=1

MovableWorkshop.esp=1

1918bar.esp=1

BARAnimsStandalone.esp=1

Crossbow.esp=1

console.esp=1

RichMerchants.esp=1

QuickTrade.esp=1

EnclaveX02.esp=1

ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp=1

Trait Menu.esp=1

GrenadeExpansionPack.esp=1

Remington 1858.esp=1

Rangergearnew.esp=1

ClassicSniper.esp=1

M1Garand.esp=1

Skibs-WH77Redux.esp=1

VarmintRifle.esp=1

Makeshift-Anti Materiel Rifle.esp=1

Skibs-Miniguns.esp=1

Silenced38Pistol.esp=1

M1Garand - AWKCR.esp=1

GrenadeExpansionPackAWKCRPatch.esp=1

GrenadeExpansionPackLoadsPatch.esp=1

ConcreteSledgehammer.esp=1

FO4 NPCs Travel.esp=1

HuntingShotgun.esp=1

CrudeBlowback.esp=1

DPAssaultCarbine.esp=1

DOOMThatGun.esp=1

WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp=1

CrudeBlowback - AWKCR.esp=1

CrudeBlowback-1.5xDMG.esp=1

AtomicRadio.esp=1

PCDugWedges.esp=1

IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp=1

SalvageBeacons.esp=1

P90.esp=1

SigSauer127.esp=1

GrenadeExpansionPackChinaLakePatch.esp=1

VarmintRifle - AWKCR-VIS.esp=1

AssaultRifle02.esp=1

GaussRifleMk2.esp=1

tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp=1

RightHandedHuntingRifle.esp=1

GaussRifleMk2 - tAE - AWKCR.esp=1

spacefiddle_Perforation_BetterAutomaticWeapons_Core.esp=1

IncreasedWeaponModDistribution.esp=1

HandmadeRevolver.esp=1

CWMR-Patch-AWKCR.esp=1

CWMR-Patch-ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp=1

FO4Hotkeys.esp=1

PlasmaCaster-Standalone.esp=1

ConcreteSledgehammer-AWKCR.esp=1

P90NPC.esp=1

HandmadeRevolver - AWKCR-VIS.esp=1

HandmadeRevolver-1.5xDMG.esp=1

M9.esp=1

AK2047.esp=1

Mauser.esp=1

R91M.esp=1

M14.esp=1

Dogmeat's Backpack.esp=1

VIS - Real Comics.esp=0

VIS - Dogmeat's Backpack.esp=1

spacefiddle_FusionGun-VIS-Tags_VanillaBuild.esp=1

Lever Action Reload Fix.esp=1

10mmSMG.esp=1

BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp=1

HlgCavalryRevolver.esp=1

GreaseGunSMG.esp=1

DOOMDesertEagle.esp=1

JaguarLMG.esp=1

StandaloneWeaponLists.esp=1

MP153.esp=1

Campsite.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp=1

BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1

AKSounds.esp=1

OWR.esp=1

OWR_CraftableDecor.esp=1

OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp=1

OWR_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp=1

3dscopes.esp=1

3dscopes-framework.esp=1

3dscopes-AddToSpawnList - CWMR Compatible.esp=1

CWMR-Patch-IncreasedWeaponModDistribution.esp=1

3dscopes-r91maddon.esp=1

3dscopes-m14addon.esp=1

3dscopes-xm73addon.esp=1

3dscopes-Crossbowaddon.esp=1

3dscopes-m9addon.esp=1

3dscopes-bozaraddon.esp=1

3dscopes-defenseaddon.esp=1

3dscopes-classicsniperaddon.esp=1

3dscopes-FarHarbor.esp=1

3dscopes-NukaWorld.esp=1

Tactical Flashlights.esp=1

Tactical Flashlights - Settings.esp=1

ValdacilsItemSorting - Tactical Flashlights TAGS.esp=1

Chad509's Deliverer Reload Replacer.esp=1

More Super Mutant Weap Anims.esp=1

ValdacilsItemSorting - DOOMBASED Weapons Merged TAGS.esp=0

BetterDoubleBarrel.esp=1

Grasslands - Unhealthy.esp=1

ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp=1

Ive tried changing it manually before but it didnt fix anything. This is the LOOT order. If someone can hlep it would be GREATLY appreciated!

[Fonger]

experimentally remove 3dscopes --- not deactivate --- remove

 

if this makes it work

 

you have hit your mod limit

 

BTW this does not imply that 3dscopes is the issue -- chosen because its a lot of esp's

Edited May 19, 2017 by Fonger

[EverChosen97]

What is the mod limit for Fallout 4 exactly? I have around 230 active plugins Edited May 20, 2017 by EverChosen97

[Fonger]

What is the mod limit for Fallout 4 exactly? I have around 230 active plugins

varies by machine

 

and on some previous games using this same/similar engine

 

also counts the non-activated mods in the same directory

Edited May 20, 2017 by Fonger

[SMILINGMOON]

 

What is the mod limit for Fallout 4 exactly? I have around 230 active plugins

 

varies by machine

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and on some previous games using this same/similar engine

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also counts the non-activated mods in the same directory

FONGERrr

 

you've blocked me just wanted to say you'll have your poster .

Edited May 21, 2017 by SMILINGMOON

[Jannifer]

Actually, the file limit is the same for Skyrim and FO4 -- 255 .esm/.esp files. You can have more files than that in your mod list, but the game will only load the first 255 activated files. The game does not count inactive files/mods.

 

Now, whether your rig will run that many is another matter entirely. :tongue: My old abacus hit the wall at about 130. My current rig is still going strong at 160, and I'm still adding. However, I don't run a lot of overhaul mods. Currently, I'm using Apocalypse Magic, Better Vampires, Moonlight Tales and OBIS (Organized Bandits in Skyrim). I have also combined a lot of the smaller mods for tattoos/war paints, weapons, armor, clothing and jewelry.

 

In your particular case, I'd verify your game cache through Steam. Then, start a new game and see if you're still having problems. If you aren't having problems, it's your save file. If you are still having problems, then it's your load order. If your save is borked, uninstall the patch and go back to an earlier save from before you installed the mod. It's the only way to get rid of the changes that the mod made to your save.

 

Good luck! I hope you get everything sorted out. :smile:

 

EDIT: LOOT is not the be-all and end-all of ordering your mods. It's a good place to start, but it's not perfect. For example, it will sometimes place child files before parent files. That is, it will place a mod which depends on another before the mod it needs to work. You may need to double check your load order with that in mind.

[tomomi1922]

Hmm, weren't you the person asking for help on the other post? The load order is very helpful. I recognize most of the mods here. So for the mods I know ... load order is fine.

DLCUltraHighResolution.esm should be way up there right along with all DLC. I don't think this one particularly matters, but fix it!

What is timetravel.esp? Is that a mod where it lets you go back to the pre war Sanctuary via a portal? If so, its fine. If it alters game start, you may want to put it higher in load order.

ValdacilsItemSorting - DOOMBASED Weapons Merged TAGS.esp=0 I know it is inactive. But I know this patch is intended for Doombased merged weapon pack that contain about 6-7 of his weapons in 1 esp. You should get that mod instead of the Desert Eagle, Mac-11, etc.... save you some ESP count. It will definitely create problems if you enable this because you do not have ALL the weapons in Doombased collection. Unless you download the collection via the link I post below.

That 3dscope taking up 10 esp is really bad. you only have total of 255 to use.

If you use NMM, you can check the Plugin tab, any mod that is missing masters will show up in Orange. And when you go over 255 mods, NMM will warn you with a red number at the status bar. I am not counting how many mods you have here, but as some other said, you may go over 255, and FO4 will only load 255 mods (which Fallout 4 and the DLC already take up like 6-7 already). Here, I even get you the links:

DOOMBASED Weapons Merged
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16387/?

Skibadaa Weapon Pack REDUX
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/23064/?

These 2 weapon packs will save you lots of ESP count because I can tell you have a lot of loose weapons that are part of these 2 collections.

Edited May 21, 2017 by tomomi1922