Trump and Comey

[gandalftw]

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[HeyYou]

 

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President Pence? Are you sure that would be any better? I think he is even more of a nutjob than Trump....... take a look at some of his religious views..... :D

[gandalftw]

The thing is if done properly we could get them both.

 

Article II Section 4

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors.

Edited June 4, 2017 by gandalftw

[HeyYou]

The thing is if done properly we could get them both.

 

Article II Section 4

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors.

President Ryan? I think we are WAY below the bottom of the barrel here........ Yeah, speaker of the house, Paul Ryan would be next in line. I really don't see him as an improvement either.

[gandalftw]

 

President Ryan? I think we are WAY below the bottom of the barrel here........ Yeah, speaker of the house, Paul Ryan would be next in line. I really don't see him as an improvement either.

 

The bottom of the f***ing barrel is Trump and Bannon's attempt to turn Trump's presidency into an autocracy.

An autocracy is a system of government in which supreme power is concentrated in the hands of one person, whose decisions are subject to neither external legal restraints nor regularized mechanisms of popular control (except perhaps for the implicit threat of a coup d'état or mass insurrection). Absolute monarchy and dictatorship are the main historical forms of autocracy.

 

Those hoping to understand what the world might currently be up against should know how Stephen Bannon thinks. A corpulent man with a full head of hair at age 62, his gaze is clear and alert and he often pinches his mouth together until his lips become invisible, not unlike a street fighter. Now that he works in the White House, he has begun wearing a suit coat. Previously, though, he was fond of showing his disdain for refined Washington by wearing baggy cargo pants through the streets of the capital, shaggy and unshaven.

In November 2013, the historian Ronald Radosh visited multimillionaire Bannon in his townhouse, located in Capitol Hill. The two stood in front of a photo of Bannon's daughter Maureen, an elite soldier with a machine gun in her lap posing on what had once been Saddam Hussein's gold throne. At the time, Bannon was the head of the right-wing propaganda website Breitbart and the two were discussing his political goals. Then Bannon proudly proclaimed, "I'm a Leninist."

The historian reacted with shock, asking him what he meant. "Lenin," he answered, "wanted to destroy the state, and that's my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today's establishment." By that, he meant the Democratic Party, the media, but also the Republicans.

Radosh wrote about the encounter in a piece for the news website The Daily Beast and soon thereafter, once close confidants to Bannon came out of the woodwork to share what they knew about his world view. "Steve is a strong militarist, he's in love with war -- it's almost poetry to him," his longtime Hollywood writing partner Julia Jones told the website. She said books about war lay all over the place in his home. "He's studied it down through the ages, from Greece, through Rome ... every battle, every war. Never back down, never apologize, never show weakness. He lives in a world where it's always high noon at the O.K. Corral."

 

Just months ago, Bannon predicted: "We're going to war in the South China Sea in five to 10 years. There's no doubt about that." Against China, a nuclear power. Bannon has also claimed that another war will also flare up, this one in the Middle East.

 

Seem familiar?That you can't see what is happening is understandable.

 

Ryan,as president, might last until the next election but there is no way he'd be reelected.

Edited June 5, 2017 by gandalftw

[HeyYou]

And how much damage will he do while in office? More, or less, than Trump?

[gandalftw]

Less,brother,far less because as a supporter of Trump and Bannon he has destroyed his own future.

 

Trump and Bannon are not going to succeed there will never be an autocracy in this country without a civil war and we are,the citizenship, far better armed then in any other time in history.I own five guns myself and in my advanced age i would rather die than give up my my arms.

[HeyYou]

Less,brother,far less because as a supporter of Trump and Bannon he has destroyed his own future.

 

Trump and Bannon are not going to succeed there will never be an autocracy in this country without a civil war and we are,the citizenship, far better armed then in any other time in history.I own five guns myself and in my advanced age i would rather die than give up my my arms.

Keep in mind, that various law enforcement agencies, the national guard, and, if it comes down to it, the Army.... are MUCH better armed, likely better trained, and have pretty much a limitless supply of manpower. If you take on the government in an armed conflict, you lose.

 

If you are so sure what their end goal is, and also sure they will never achieve it, then does it really even matter? Isn't this country already divided enough? Do we really need to do yet more to divide us even further?

 

Trump is not 'all powerful'. He isn't going to get his way on anything that the republican party disagrees with. That, in and of itself, is a major check on his power. Granted, he certainly isn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but, he isn't a religious zealot either. Something that I am not sure can be said for Pence, or Ryan...... So far, he has managed to NOT get us into any more wars, which is more than can be said for the previous two administrations......

[gandalftw]

 

Keep in mind, that various law enforcement agencies, the national guard, and, if it comes down to it, the Army.... are MUCH better armed, likely better trained, and have pretty much a limitless supply of manpower. If you take on the government in an armed conflict, you lose.

 

If you are so sure what their end goal is, and also sure they will never achieve it, then does it really even matter? Isn't this country already divided enough? Do we really need to do yet more to divide us even further?

 

Trump is not 'all powerful'. He isn't going to get his way on anything that the republican party disagrees with. That, in and of itself, is a major check on his power. Granted, he certainly isn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but, he isn't a religious zealot either. Something that I am not sure can be said for Pence, or Ryan...... So far, he has managed to NOT get us into any more wars, which is more than can be said for the previous two administrations......

 

Hehehe,Better trained than Gandalf?Are you crazy?Lets see the coast guard take down a Balrog and not only survive but return more powerful than before!!!Gandalf will leave your armies marching with their entrails dragging in the dust along side them,Gandalf The White will be transformed and arise again as Gandalf The Black!!Gandalf The Black will grow into a great whirlwind of dark power that wraps his wings around your armies,raising them into the sky in a flailing maelstrom of destruction and recombination , when released this detritus will slowly assimilate into the body of Gandalf,increasing his power and giving him control over all your armies,which he will turn against you in a sublime rage that will haunt you and your ancestors until the end of times.Or maybe not... ;)

 

Actually,it is quite obvious what Trump/Bannon is trying to do and like i said before it's understandable that you would have no clue.The republicans have,so far,done very little to oppose Trump and his dark ambitions.The Democrats,on the other hand,are so fearful that they simply can't act,they are likened to the flotsam of a shipwreck that flows here and there without direction.They can't oppose pumpkinhead until they see a way that will keep them safe,they are afraid of pumpkinhead's supporters which are numerous and mentally challenged.

 

The Division you cite is a delusion born of a Trumptian mindset,in reality there is no division only fear and indecision in the minds of the Democratic sheep.I agree completely that Trump/Bannon's entire will is bent on division and disruption.I f you think that my puny thoughts will further divide this country please tell me where you buy your dope.:p

 

Trump is whatever Bannon wants him to be.Bannon is in control and it's perfectly understandable that you can't see that.

[HeyYou]

First Paragraph: I would pay real money to see that. :) (Side note: It is not "my" army.......)

 

Trump/Bannon trying to turn us into an 'autocracy' (I.E. dictatorship) has about as much credibility (and likelihood of coming about) as Obama trying to turn us into a socialist state. We've heard it all before, the rhetoric only changes slightly, depending on which party holds the oval office.

 

I am NOT a republican. But then, I am not a democrat either. Both parties hold some views that I agree with, both parties hold some views that I do NOT agree with. This time around, Hilary's platform had too many poison pills for me to swallow, so, I voted republican. Not because I *wanted* Trump in office, but, because I DIDN'T want Hilary in office. Trump was simply the lesser of two evils. (I voted in both elections for Obama, when he was in the runnin'. Not because I WANTED Obama in office, but, because, once again, I DIDN'T want who he was running against in office.)

 

The division is real. It has been real for at least a decade. It was beautifully illustrated how powerful it was becoming in Obama's first term, when the major goal of the republican party was to make sure that NOTHING Obama proposed, actually happened. Didn't matter if it was a good idea or not. If Obama proposed it, the republicans opposed it. Even in the first two years of his first term, when the dems controlled the house, senate, and oval office, he STILL couldn't get much done........ The mainstream media only contributes to the division. In fact, I hold them mostly responsible for goading it into the level we see today. I wonder what happened to an unbiased media? Reporting facts, and taking no position on the issues/events.... Today, there is no such thing as 'unbiased media'. They ALL have their own agenda they want to put forward, and the competing views only further the division.