The game crashes when loading different saves, help needed

[wildbeaver]

[ SOLVED ] New vegas anti crash was the solution

 

Whenever I open the game up I can load any save without issues, eg. I load a save in megaton and all saves created in that location work just fine. The problem appears when I try to load a save from a different location, some dungeon for example, then the game starts to load and crashes at the very end where normally loading screen would disappear. The other way around, if I load a dungeon save first the megaton one will give me a crash etc. This doesn't happen 100% of the time but after playing for a while, even a few minutes, it's almost guaranteed to crash and it's super annoying to restart the game every time to load a save. I tried running the game without enb, sorting the load order manually and with loot, archiveinvalidation is enabled, nothing works. I'm using win 7 64 bit, the multi thread command in the ini is enabled. Any ideas?

Edited August 21, 2017 by wildbeaver

[M48A5]

Do not ever use LOOT to sort Fallout 3. It has never worked correctly.

 

Also, please see "How to ask for help": http://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/How_to_ask_for_help More information is needed to try and help you.

[wildbeaver]

Alright, additional info :

 

Now that you said loot doesnt work good I sorted my order again with boss, here is what it looks like now ( it still crashes between saves )

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

ThePitt.esm

Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

SShop.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

gas masks of the world FO3.esm

CanHasRecoil.esp

Old tommy.esp

Responsive Kill Reactions.esp

no blur on hit.esp

Auto Aim Fix v1.1.esp

DynamicCrosshair.esp

Flora Overhaul.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp

Millenia_AKS74U.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

RH_FWE_Bridge.esp

Millenia_AK47_replacer.esp

FirstPersonGunFollowCrosshairs.esp

FasterWaiting.esp

Night_Lighting.esp

Directional PipLight.esp

Wasteland Soldier Armor.esp

LeatherBackpack - eng.esp

JackoMilitaryEquipment1.esp

NoUndiscoveredCompassMarkers(kalniel).esp

bobbing.esp

Player Animations - Food & Drink (FWE).esp

GasMasks.esp

Sit Anywhere.esp

SShopItems.esp

Placable Lights v2.2.esp

HelmPOV.esp

Dynamic Third Person Camera.esp

GunImpactLODIncreased.esp

Assaultrifle_replacers_WMK+RH+FWE.esp

Higher Vehicle Health.esp

PortableMattress.esp

reload sounds.esp

SCAR 7.62 fix.esp

3rd person camera swap mod.esp

ShellRain.esp

fgScrapMetalCrafting.esp

MegatonHouseExtraStorageSG.esp

Scavenger World - FWE Edition Fix.esp

Moshman's Wasteland Ambiance.esp

TinCanCRAFTing.esp

PureWater-LittleRad-.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Weather.esp

FWE weapon fixes.esp

Merged Patch.esp

My game directory is D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Fallout 3 goty

I launch the game through steam with a modified fose shortcut

I use fomm

game version 1.7.0.3

It's a steam version, I think gfwl is disabled by default, I don't remember doing anything to disable it and it doesn't work in game anyway

1.1.036 geck ( fose version )

also using stutter remover and LAAE

specs, win 7 64 bit

i5 4 cores

8 gb ram

gpu 2 gb

[M48A5]

Since you are using FOMM, why are you launching the game through Steam? FO3 has never needed Steam to run, since Steam is only a seller of the game. Just launch the game through FOMM using the Launch FOSE button.

 

The only thing I can see wrong with the load order is "ThePitt" should be between "Anchorage" and "BrokenSteel".

 

Are you launching the game, pausing it and they trying to start another save? If so, I have never been able to do that and always stopped the game and started another one.

 

Did you edit the Fallout.ini that is located in the "Documents/My Games" folder by changing "bUseThreadedAI" to 1 and adding "iNumHWThreads=2"?

Edited August 20, 2017 by M48A5

[wildbeaver]

You can set the game to launch through fose in steam launch options which is what I've been doing, there is no difference. ( I double checked to make sure ). Pitt is in fact between anchorage and broken steel, unless you meant it shouldn't be.

 

What do you mean by "Are you launching the game, pausing it and they trying to start another save? If so, I have never been able to do that and always stopped the game and started another one."

For example, I die, press esc, select a save from the list that is in a different location and it will give me the crash. When I first load the game up no save gives me any problems so it seems like it may be some memory related issue. There is another detail I forgot to mention - I can never exit to main menu properly once I load up a save, it will crash instantly. I found it may be related to not having a proper option selected when using stutter remover but mine was ok so I dont know. Those 2 crashes are probably related somehow

[M48A5]

The load order in your original post does not show ThePitt in the correct location.

 

Have you tried NVAC-New Vegas Anti Crash? http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/53635/? It does indeed work with FO3.

 

I have never paused the game (Esc) if I die. I just waited until the game reloaded my last save. Since I have never experienced either of the crashes you are describing, I can't offer any help.

Edited August 20, 2017 by M48A5

[wildbeaver]

Just for clarity, I never edited the load order I posted, I copied it from a txt file generated by fomm. From what I understand you said the pitt should be in between anchorage and broken steel? It was like this all the time since I used boss to sort.

 

As I said, loading the last save, even manually, isn't a problem as long as it's in the same location, so it would appear the game cannot handle having to load another big pack of data, so possibly some memory problem? I use a high res texturepack aswell.

 

I'm gonna give the nvac a try and update, thanks for the suggestion

[wildbeaver]

Oh my god this is incredible.. with the nvac plugin I was able to load 4 different saves in different locations without a crash! It's probably too early to tell if the problem is gone for good, I'm gonna update after a while.

[wildbeaver]

I had only 1 crash after "hopping" a few saves and there was also a graphical glitch with it, some textures just freaking out, other than that, it worked smooth, so I guess the thread is now solved. Thank you for this suggestion :)