[LE] First Mod: "CoinPurse" - Help and Advice

[OblivionRanger]

As stated, I'm working on my mod "cherry." The basic idea is taking the idea of droppable gold and expanding it, along with adding container function to the coinpurses found throughout Skyrim.

 

Coinpurses as containers will require either re-categorizing in CK - the three coinpurses (S,M, and L) are registered as harvestable flora in Vanilla - or creating three new strongboxes and assigning the coinpurse meshes accordingly. IE creating (StrongboxCPS [CoinPurseSmall]) with the mesh for a small coinpurse and replacing the harvestable Vanilla coinpurses with the new "Strongbox coinpurses. I would also like a limit per coinpurse; no more than say 25 septims in a small coinpurse [Container full]?

 

The droppable coins would require four, maybe five, conditions (if my logic is correct) based on how many coins the player drops, similar to dropping arrows. If the player has 500 Iron Arrows in inventory and drops all 500, 500 individual arrows do not land on the ground around him. The game mechanics drop a certain number of quivers, each with a set number of arrows. Say 10 quivers with 50 arrows each.

 

The script should end up doing something along the lines of:

Player drops gold; check amount

Amount is 101 - 250: drop large coinpurse

Amount is 26 - 100: drop medium coinpurse

Amount is 11 - 25: drop small coinpurse

Amount is 10: drop object "Coinstack" (New texture/mesh of a stack of 10 gold coins)

Amount is <10: drop individual coins

If possible, I'd like the dropped coinpurses created by this script to act as semi-permanent containers, with the option to either open - to add or take gold - or to just take the whole coinpurse - a la current Vanilla mechanics.

Honestly, I'd be content if it were possible to just drop X coinpurses dependent on gold amount dropped. The player drops 1248 gold; the game generates 4 large coinpurses, 2 medium coinpurses, 1 small coinpurse, 1 coinstack, and 7 individual septims.

 

One other note, I've already added weight to the septims. I used a crafting recipe from CCOR as a guideline. 600 septims can be smelted in to one 5-pound gold ingot. So, 120 septims weigh roughly a pound and each septim weighs roughly 0.0085. For comparison, with 16 ounces to a pound; one ounce is 7.5 septims. Each septim weighs just a little more than an eighth of an ounce. From a RP perspective, this makes sense considering the relative cheapness of some goods in Skyrim, even after various economy tweak mods. (I run with Trade Routes and a low price anchor, and common clothes have an average value of around 9 septims.)

 

So; that being said,

1) Is it possible to change the category of an item in CK (Flora to container) or am I looking at a hard code/engine limit?

2) How would I implement the change from harvestable coinpurse to strongbox style coinpurses?

3) How should the drop script actually read?

4) Is it possible to "drop" containers?

5) On the septim weight, does the balance seem about right? Reasonable?

 

Any and all help is appreciated.

 

[OblivionRanger]

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[greyday01]

To make a coinpurse looking container just duplicate and rename a container then edit it so it uses the coinpurse mesh. It's the only way to change the category of in item. The rest I'm not sure how to do about it

[foamyesque]

As GreyDay says, the only way to convert them to containers will be to create new containers, assign the meshes appropriately, and replace all instances of the originals in the game world with your new ones. As that is a pretty monumental task I would look into ways of dynamically replacing the flora via a search quest and scripting, but I've never tried using them for that purpose so I can't say if it will work.

 

Implementing the maximum amount is doable with a bit of OnItemAdded scripting, which can also serve to reject any attempts to add anything that isn't gold to the purse.

 

Dropping containers is possible, either 'dropping' them through a script-driven PlaceAtMe(), or, if they were added to a player's inventory somehow (not usual, but possible) through the standard UI.

 

Deleting the container when empty (i.e. someone did a take-all) is possible through an OnItemRemoved event.

 

Adding additional activation options so that the player can simply take the whole purse without needing to open the container inventory at all is possible through a perk, using the Activate perk entry point, which then runs some additional scripting to transfer all the gold to the player (allowing the OnItemRemoved event to then clean up the container).

[OblivionRanger]

Dropping containers is possible, either 'dropping' them through a script-driven PlaceAtMe(), or, if they were added to a player's inventory somehow (not usual, but possible) through the standard UI.

So, it would read something like:

Player drops 250 gold

player.placeatme StrongBoxCPL

StrongBoxCPL Inventory count = f, 250

 

Deleting the container when empty (i.e. someone did a take-all) is possible through an OnItemRemoved event.

 

This would be a scripted command to MarkForDelete? Similar to the ability to either read or take a book? [Always Pick Up Books mod]

 

Thank you for the help thus far.

Edited August 25, 2017 by OblivionRanger

[OblivionRanger]

Well, Strongbox with a coinpurse .nif responds to Havok. :) First step solved.

[foamyesque]

 

Dropping containers is possible, either 'dropping' them through a script-driven PlaceAtMe(), or, if they were added to a player's inventory somehow (not usual, but possible) through the standard UI.

So, it would read something like:

Player drops 250 gold

player.placeatme StrongBoxCPL

StrongBoxCPL Inventory count = f, 250

 

Deleting the container when empty (i.e. someone did a take-all) is possible through an OnItemRemoved event.

 

This would be a scripted command to MarkForDelete? Similar to the ability to either read or take a book? [Always Pick Up Books mod]

 

Thank you for the help thus far.

 

 

MarkForDelete is a console command; the Papyrus equivalent is just Delete(). However there are some things that will prevent the object from actually being deleted, which you should read about on the CK wiki. It's good practice to put a Disable() ahead of Delete() for that reason.

 

To do the placing and transfer, you'd want something on the lines of:

Actor Property PlayerRef Auto
MiscObject Property Gold001 Auto
Container Property StrongboxCPS Auto
Container Property StrongboxCPM Auto
Container Property StrongboxCPL Auto
 
...
 
Function DropPurse(int iGold)
 
 
ObjectReference droppedPurse = none

if PlayerRef.GetItemCount(Gold001) < iGold
iGold = PlayerRef.GetItemCount(Gold001)
endif

if iGold < 25
droppedPurse = PlayerRef.PlaceAtMe(StrongboxCPS)
elseif iGold < 100
droppedPurse = PlayerRef.PlaceAtMe(StrongboxCPM)
else
droppedPurse = PlayerRef.PlaceAtMe(StrongboxCPL)
endif
 
PlayerRef.RemoveItem(Gold001, iGold, true, droppedPurse)
 
EndFunction

It doesn't perfectly match to your desired conditions but it should illustrate the principles. Are you familiar with how properties work?

Edited August 25, 2017 by foamyesque

[OblivionRanger]

Somewhat. I've been reading back over the tutorials in CK Wiki. And I have a very basic knowledge of Java, so the concepts are familiar. Off to work....

 

Thank you!

[OblivionRanger]

I should be able to do something along the lines of count-drop to generate multiple coin purses, right?
I'll edit in the syntax when I get home tonight.

 

Function CPLVal

 

while iGold == 250

playerref.placeatme(StrongboxCPL)

endwhile

 

;insert the function to the drop script along the lines of -

 

if iGold == 50

playerref.placeatme(StrongboxCPS)

elseif iGold == 100

playerref.placeatme(StrongboxCPM)

elseif iGold > 250

function(CPLVal)

endif

 

 

Look right? At least in theory? That should cause the large coinpurses to drop as long as the player has at least 250 gold and then drop a medium and a small purse.

Edited August 30, 2017 by OblivionRanger

[OblivionRanger]

OK, removing the coinpurse if it's emptied should use something similar to this script, right?

ScriptName SimpleToggle Extends ObjectReference
 
Bool bToggle
 
Event OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef)
    bToggle = !bToggle ; Set Bool to whatever it's not - player takes all
    If bToggle ; True, player takes all
        ; Do stuff, delete()
    Else ; False
        ; Undo stuff, don't delete
    Endif
EndEvent

Found this in the complete examples on CK Wiki.