Crash/freeze/lock up- Please help!

[Beachpizzle]

I've really been going out of my mind these past few days trying to start a new character. For some reason, the first managed with me having little to no understanding of load order or the importance of, well, any of it! I installed random stuff all over the place and it ran just fine.

I must have reinstalled the game around 5-6 times now, purging everything and reinstalling all mods and even trimming back quite a fair bit from what I had installed and sadly, I'm still faced with the same issues every single time.

The game will play just fine for short burst but I'll randomly get infinite loading screens or, upon trying to save, the game will lock up entirely. I'm on a fresh install again (outside of program files this time) and again, within 10 minutes of play I was stung by an infinite loading screen and when I got back in, couldn't save when I left Whiterun.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I've followed numerous guides, cleaned game files with TESEDIT, cleaned save filed on old and new characters and I'm using the load order LOOT gave me. Again, I feel like I'm going crazy here, if anyone can spot anything in my load order that is obviously causing problems that would be great and any advice welcomed on how I could improve my games stability!

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
7 7 ApachiiHairMales.esm
8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
9 9 ApachiiHair.esm
10 a RSkyrimChildren.esm
11 b Cutting Room Floor.esp
12 c SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
13 d Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
14 e Vivid WeathersSE.esp
15 f DarkerNights.esp
16 10 DustEffectsSSE.esp
17 11 Footprints.esp
18 12 No Edge Glow - Magic and Transformations.esp
19 13 surreal lighting.esp
20 14 DarkerNights-SurrealLighting.esp
21 15 RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp
22 16 SkyrimIsWindy.esp
23 17 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
24 18 dD-Short Script Range.esp
25 19 dD-No Screen Blood.esp
26 1a dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
27 1b dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
28 1c IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
29 1d Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
30 1e SkyUI_SE.esp
31 1f SkyHUD.esp
32 20 iHUD.esp
33 21 SkyHUD - iHUD Patch.esp
34 22 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
35 23 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
36 24 FNIS.esp
37 25 XPMSSE.esp
38 26 Character Creation Overhaul.esp
39 27 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
40 28 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
41 29 FasterSkillLeveling2017.esp
42 2a High Level Enemies.esp
43 2b High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
44 2c High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
45 2d Realistic-Voice.esp
46 2e dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
47 2f Unleveled_Items.esp
48 30 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
49 31 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
50 32 VHTNFSSE.esp
51 33 Hjerim.esp
52 34 HSTNF.esp
53 35 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
54 36 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
55 37 JKs Whiterun.esp
56 38 Eli_Breezehome.esp
57 39 Beautiful Cities.esp
58 3a Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
59 3b Perks Unbound - Special Edition.esp
60 3c Diversity - An NPC Overhaul.esp
61 3d ProudSpireManorDBE-2016 SSE.esp
62 3e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
63 3f SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
64 40 ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
65 41 JK's Riverwood.esp
66 42 Run For Your Lives.esp
67 43 Cloaks.esp
68 44 Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
69 45 Immersive Patrols II.esp
70 46 Trees in Cities.esp
71 47 Shor's Stone.esp
72 48 Ivarstead.esp
73 49 Kynesgrove.esp
74 4a CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
75 4b LIAT - NPCs.esp
76 4c Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
77 4d RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp
78 4e VioLens SE.esp
79 4f VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
80 50 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
81 51 BlendedRoads.esp
82 52 Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp
83 53 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
84 54 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
85 55 ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
86 56 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
87 57 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
88 58 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
89 59 KS Hairdo's.esp
90 5a Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
91 5b Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
92 5c Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp
93 5d Visible Favorited Gear.esp
94 5e PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
95 5f PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
96 60 dovahkiinrelax.esp
97 61 RSChildren - Complete.esp
98 62 RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp
99 63 RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp
100 64 Convenient Horses.esp
101 65 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
102 66 1nivWICCloaks.esp
103 67 skyforgedShields.esp
104 68 DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp
105 69 DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp
106 6a Ursine Armour - Non HDT.esp
107 6b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
108 6c JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
109 6d Volkihar Knight.esp
110 6e Billyro Swords.esp
111 6f skyforgedWeapons.esp
112 70 LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp
113 71 ValiantNordBow.esp
114 72 Skysan_GlassAW.esp
115 73 Skysan_Stalhrim.esp
116 74 Unique Uniques.esp
117 75 Hearthfire Materials.esp
118 76 Ars Metallica.esp
119 77 Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE.esp
120 78 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
121 79 Blowing in the Wind - JK's Riverwood Patch SSE.esp
122 7a Blowing in the Wind - JK's Whiterun Patch SSE.esp
123 7b Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp
124 7c Ish's Souls to Perks.esp
125 7d Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
126 7e Stormcloak Battle Armor Replacer.esp
127 7f Centered 3rd-Person Camera SSE.esp
128 80 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
129 81 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
130 82 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
131 83 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
132 84 RWT Lod Fix.esp
133 85 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
134 86 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Load order given by LOOT and shy of around 100 other mods my first character had and ran perfectly fine with.. It's like I'm not allowed alts! (on that note, my main character is currently backed up and hasn't been tested since the first uninstall/reinstall for fear of save corruption if that's what's going on).

Thanks in advance <3

[pathtopower]

Got to the my document and purge skyrim document files including saves. You may have edited some important ini files and screwed up big time. Erase em. Restart the game to generate new ini files to replace em.

 

The game will play just fine for short burst but I'll randomly get infinite loading screens or, upon trying to save, the game will lock up entirely. I'm on a fresh install again (outside of program files this time) and again, within 10 minutes of play I was stung by an infinite loading screen and when I got back in, couldn't save when I left Whiterun.

 

 

I am gonna be very nasty about this. Put all your freaking mods you got and throw it down a trash compactor. Restart with a fresh new skyrim and install 1 mod at a time. Use Wyre bash with every mod and skyrim edit to clean all dirty mod files/skyrim dlc files and finish with loot for optimal placement. Test the game via alternate start because doing the whole intro is a huge time sink you can't afford and walk for 10-15 minutes in out of a inn and slap a guard or 2 just to see if combat will freeze the game or not. If your game does not crash or freeze then it passed the test and move to the next mod. Do this until your game crashes or freezes in order to find the culprit then delete the mofo from your hard drive. Some mods do not play nice with other mods and may create some nasty conflict that may screw up the game engine.

[Beachpizzle]

Hey, thank you for the response.

I seem to have found the culprit (along with realising I hadn't specified that in my post) and it seems as though it was SKSE64. Not to say it was just that, I imagine there was some conflict along the line but when I launched Skyrim without SKSE it ran fine, smooth as you like! I've even added more mods that I had gotten rid of on the last complete purge and it still runs just fine. I think for the sake of SkyUI and a couple of other SKSE dependant mods I've just stopped using SKSE for the moment. Hopefully they'll it'll be out of alpha soon and I can go back and see what was making it so unhappy!

For now, this was my 5 or 6 time uninstalling and reinstalling everything, in hind sight, I should have gone one by one as you suggested but for now, SkyUI2.2 with the remove warning patch will do for me.

Thanks again for taking the time to respond and if/when I do one by one it to find the culprit I'll be sure to update, for now, just enjoying being able to play!

[Raider5]

Hey, thank you for the response.

 

I seem to have found the culprit (along with realising I hadn't specified that in my post) and it seems as though it was SKSE64. Not to say it was just that, I imagine there was some conflict along the line but when I launched Skyrim without SKSE it ran fine, smooth as you like! I've even added more mods that I had gotten rid of on the last complete purge and it still runs just fine. I think for the sake of SkyUI and a couple of other SKSE dependant mods I've just stopped using SKSE for the moment. Hopefully they'll it'll be out of alpha soon and I can go back and see what was making it so unhappy!

 

For now, this was my 5 or 6 time uninstalling and reinstalling everything, in hind sight, I should have gone one by one as you suggested but for now, SkyUI2.2 with the remove warning patch will do for me.

 

Thanks again for taking the time to respond and if/when I do one by one it to find the culprit I'll be sure to update, for now, just enjoying being able to play!

I have been having CTDs like crazy, sometimes its five seconds in, or as soon as a Save loads. verified, deleted, reinstalled, you name it. spent days looking online for solutions. tried the disable, uninstall mods etc etc. SKSE64 is the only thing left. thanks I'll give it a shot.

[Beachpizzle]

 

Hey, thank you for the response.

 

I seem to have found the culprit (along with realising I hadn't specified that in my post) and it seems as though it was SKSE64. Not to say it was just that, I imagine there was some conflict along the line but when I launched Skyrim without SKSE it ran fine, smooth as you like! I've even added more mods that I had gotten rid of on the last complete purge and it still runs just fine. I think for the sake of SkyUI and a couple of other SKSE dependant mods I've just stopped using SKSE for the moment. Hopefully they'll it'll be out of alpha soon and I can go back and see what was making it so unhappy!

 

For now, this was my 5 or 6 time uninstalling and reinstalling everything, in hind sight, I should have gone one by one as you suggested but for now, SkyUI2.2 with the remove warning patch will do for me.

 

Thanks again for taking the time to respond and if/when I do one by one it to find the culprit I'll be sure to update, for now, just enjoying being able to play!

I have been having CTDs like crazy, sometimes its five seconds in, or as soon as a Save loads. verified, deleted, reinstalled, you name it. spent days looking online for solutions. tried the disable, uninstall mods etc etc. SKSE64 is the only thing left. thanks I'll give it a shot.

 

Fingers crossed for you mate! I've been playing consistently with no issue since. I even got brave and made another couple of test characters just to make sure it was stable across multiple saves and it's been running smooth! Back up to 200 mods again now too lol!

As a quick note, if you still find yourself unable to save and still CTD, try making a test character to see if you can save. One of my files was corrupt and still wouldn't save without CTD but all others since are OK.

 

Sadly, with it being in alpha, you won't get any support but you can still send your crash logs on which could help with getting SKSE64 to us all in better shape so, if it does turn out to be that, then be sure to pass those on.