New Nexus Mods design launched

[comanderadam360]

In response to post #55157223. #55168118 is also a reply to the same post.

lued123 wrote: The NMM download page has really small text, at least in Microsoft Edge. And I mean like glitchy levels of small.

TransparentHead wrote: It's the same for me too (I'm also a Microsoft Edge user).

hold control nd use your mouse wheel to zoom in it will make things bigger for you

[eshesj]

I can't seem to find advanced search, which I mostly use. Its probably somewhere, but hard to find so I use old design.

[axonis]

In response to post #55007168. #55013633, #55035253 are all replies on the same post.

slvsaris wrote:

The site seems to like to be very inefficient with space, but I guess that is the thing nowadays. Waste all that space just to be flashy. It does seem to be geared towards mobile devices. I have seen many responses to that asking why is it bad making the site mobile friendly? Well, Johnny, mobile and PC are two very different platforms. You want mobile friendly, make a site for mobile devices. Just remember, PC users are the ones who download from the site.

 

The files tab is very inefficient. Sooo much wasted space.

fireundubh wrote: Whitespace is not wasted space. It's also not a "nowadays thing." Use of negative space in design was popularized by Bauhaus in the 1920s.

xVikingKingx wrote: I actually have to use my phone to Access Nexus 80% of the time Because I don't have actual internet in my own home, so if it gets even slightly more mobile friendly than the design we're all used to, then i'd be happy with it, but overall I actually like the new design.

Whitespace is good, but Nexus isn't using it, neither in the old design, nor the old one.

Here's an example of white space. By the way the article is a good read.

Here's an example of wasted space. Edited November 13, 2017 by axonis

[Deleted17812519User]

In response to post #55189868.

Roxit wrote: I like the new layout the only issue i have with it is that when you left or right click to go back one page with my browser Mozilla Firefox instead of going back to the page i was right away it load the first page and then it load the page where i was . For low speed internet user like me this extra loading step is extremely annoying . The old layout do not have this problem . Hope you are already aware of it and it will be fix once it goes live . So for now i stick to the old version .

if your internet is slow it is indeed better to use an older layout, the new CSS stylesheet code (web look Design) is probably bigger than the old one resulting in extra load time

[crimsondragon]

In response to post #55136828. #55141188, #55141958 are all replies on the same post.

alt3rn1ty wrote:

 

OK, so m 2cents worth: The new site "looks" fine from a purely aesthetic point of view (although, as others have pointed out, it seems to take way more space and require way more scrolling), but the designer(s) have fallen into the current trendy UI trap of "low contrast" and "flat" design. Unfortunately, as "nice" as the new site may look, in terms of being visually appealing (that's pretty much subjective anyway), flat and low-contrast designs do make UIs harder to use. Many of us in the IT industry have been complaining about this new design paradigm since it boomed in popularity around 5 or 6 years ago, saying that it's harder to see, harder to use, and slower than UIs that have depth and contrast. This has finally been born out in a study: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/05/flat_uis_designs_are_22_per_cent_slower_official/ and https://slashdot.org/story/17/09/05/1750238/its-official-users-navigate-flat-ui-designs-22-percent-slower?sbsrc=md . And while that's a relatively small study, I think anyone that works with everyday computer end-users every single day (like I do) will tell you that these designs are, indeed, quite detrimental to productivity. (Use a Mac running SL for example, then try using one running HS - the degradation in usability is stark.)

So what should you do with the new design? 1) Make sure that all buttons look like buttons, and that all links are obviously links. 2) add some depth back to the design and 3) add some contrast back into the design - everything doesn't need to be subtle changes. Finally, take an objective look at the old design and the new design side-by-side and then go looking for every feature/section of the site. Is there anywhere at all where navigating the new design takes more steps to get from "page x" to "page y"? If so then that's a flaw in the new design that should be corrected (i.e. don't make it more time-consuming, or more difficult, to get from point a to point b).

Please take this as constructive criticism, which is what it is meant to be. Your new design is certainly no way near as bad as some other sites I've seen, you've (thankfully) gone only half-way towards the flat-UI paradigm, but there is no doubt that backing away from the flat/low-contrast design will make your new site easier to use. (Remember, designers, *you* designed it - so you know where everything is and how it works. Everyone else in the world has to figure it out.)

 

The points you raise are lucid, coherent, and backed up by facts and logic. As such, they will be completely dismissed by TPTB, and possibly flamed by at least one the (luks guud dudez, lubbing it) robo accounts with 20-30 posts.

 

I cant stand working on my mods with this fugly, no-contrast and barely functional interface, and ihis has nothing whatsoever to do with 'not liking change'. Ill try to get as much done as I can before darkness descends, since I will be far less inclined to add or improve existing content if forced to use the 'new' and definitely not-improved offering.

 

However. they have sunk lots of money and time to get this sub-par result, and as such, they started circling the wagons right from the start. People of course, being what they are, are loathe to admit failure, or write-off mal-investments. Even to the point of ignoring and refusing to address even the most mild of critiques. They only thing they will respond to, are technical glitches with the design itself, but ignore, or occasionally dismiss critics of the design itself. Obviously, no form of 'market testing' was done prior, or if there was, the sample group consisted solely of insiders that already decided the design was the greatest thing they had ever seen.

 

Far too much scrolling, too many tiles, oversized images of the two 'trending' mods, which means get ready to be assaulted by endless click-bait loli-follower of the day pics right in your face. And for what? Not for the core content that everyone is actually here for.

 

 

+1 for both of these posts, I have contributed a fair few bug reports on github now, but my overall personal opinion of the site redesign remains pretty much all that has been said in these two quotes.

 

@Dark0ne - You cant really put all that in a bug report on github.

Ethreon wrote: The first post is quite good, I like the design and I tend to agree with those points. However, placing the second one just ruins it. The other guy is trying to pass his opinion as a fact and acts as if disagreeing with him means you are wrong. The design is not a complete failure, that's utter bollocks.

xyloritus wrote: I think most of us agree with the first post. And it's not a complete failure, just a 75% failure :smile:

I wholeheartedly agree with both posts. Not a fan of the re-design, and when I stopped getting pop ups about it today I thanked the gods.

[Webrunner]

I'm not too keen on the idea of being slapped in the face with a "Go Premium" ad every time I download a mod in your download popup window. I supported the site by being a supporter which includes "No Advertising"...I guess you have determined advertising your own site monthly subscription precludes that benefit? Is there a reason I need to see it EVERY download? Just my 2 cents.

 

Regards.

 

WebR

Edited November 14, 2017 by Webrunner

[DofDiscordia]

I'm not too keen on the idea of being slapped in the face with a "Go Premium" ad every time I download a mod in your download popup window. I supported the site by being a supporter which includes "No Advertising"...I guess you have determined advertising your own site monthly subscription precludes that benefit? Is there a reason I need to see it EVERY download? Just my 2 cents.

 

Regards.

 

WebR

Yes, really annoying when displaying more than 20 mods per page is locked behind a "premium" membership. Thanks but no thanks. It's also sad that it takes more time to load these shitty 20 tiles and not be able to list them properly top to bottom nor display the full description than it does to list 100 mods with full descriptions on the old site.

[SkyTaylor21]

Has the new design been officially released? I went on to find that it had been switched to the new design but I still have the option to view the old design.

[Skyrimexus]

In response to post #55225208.

SkyTaylor21 wrote: Has the new design been officially released? I went on to find that it had been switched to the new design but I still have the option to view the old design.

Read the first paragraph from the post

[SkyTaylor21]

 

In response to post #55225208.

 

 

 

SkyTaylor21 wrote: Has the new design been officially released? I went on to find that it had been switched to the new design but I still have the option to view the old design.

Read the first paragraph from the post

 

 

I did but I never selected the view new layout thing. So, I wasn't sure why it switched.