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i will still remember ME3 for having the worst ending in video game history so awful bioware had to change it.

 

no amount of DLC will ever change that.

 

if fact ME3 is really the worst ending in anything i have ever seen, read or played because it was sooo self-destructive so poorly thought out and 3 whole games built up to that awful thing.

 

edit on a good note, i did start playing multiplayer again

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It is really funny that you people are complaining about Bioware and EA and having bad endings then you turn around and are perfectly willing to bend over to these companies. If you want to keep letting companies milk you you have no right to complain about bad endings. There are going to be a lot more bad endings if they can get away with it. It is not that hard to understand. Go ahead and buy a ending DLC and see how many more bad endings you end up getting. A good ending should of been in the game in the first place and selling the ending for extra after you already payed 60 dollars for the game is crazy.

 

Really all I have to say is quite a few of you are extremely irresponsible. It is your fault companies can get away with this crap. If you don't care you are screwing up the industry by doing this crap you are just as bad as pirates.

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I know after reading the Indocternation theory the "ending" make sence, however it not really an ending more like see where we are going. If it the theory is true then Bioware came up with one of the best plot event to date, however I would still be upset due to paying for a product that was suppose to be complete.

 

 

*Just fyi Indocternation theory starts at the end of the final battle on earth charging in to a beam of light. After that follows that is all in Sheppards head. *

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It is really funny that you people are complaining about Bioware and EA and having bad endings then you turn around and are perfectly willing to bend over to these companies. If you want to keep letting companies milk you you have no right to complain about bad endings. There are going to be a lot more bad endings if they can get away with it. It is not that hard to understand. Go ahead and buy a ending DLC and see how many more bad endings you end up getting. A good ending should of been in the game in the first place and selling the ending for extra after you already payed 60 dollars for the game is crazy.

 

Really all I have to say is quite a few of you are extremely irresponsible. It is your fault companies can get away with this crap. If you don't care you are screwing up the industry by doing this crap you are just as bad as pirates.

 

Don't make me post the internet drama llama pic again.

 

Seriously, this gaming 'enlightenment' movement has got to stop. It's really pathetic.

 

The only reason Bioware is making DLC for the ending is because consumers are requesting it. That's not called milking, that's called caving under consumer pressure.

 

You'd have to be a moron to believe EA/Bioware is going to make bad endings for all their games so they can sell ending DLC. It's an absurd notion.

 

All I've got to say is that these people who sit around talking about how eeeeeevil some companies are all day and thinking up conspiracy theories are just as bad as those people who strongly believe they were abducted by aliens and had probes stuck up their butts. It's nothing more than typical melodramatic internet rageboy conspiracy theories. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

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It is really funny that you people are complaining about Bioware and EA and having bad endings then you turn around and are perfectly willing to bend over to these companies. If you want to keep letting companies milk you you have no right to complain about bad endings. There are going to be a lot more bad endings if they can get away with it. It is not that hard to understand. Go ahead and buy a ending DLC and see how many more bad endings you end up getting. A good ending should of been in the game in the first place and selling the ending for extra after you already payed 60 dollars for the game is crazy.

 

Really all I have to say is quite a few of you are extremely irresponsible. It is your fault companies can get away with this crap. If you don't care you are screwing up the industry by doing this crap you are just as bad as pirates.

 

Don't make me post the internet drama llama pic again.

 

Seriously, this gaming 'enlightenment' movement has got to stop. It's really pathetic.

 

The only reason Bioware is making DLC for the ending is because consumers are requesting it. That's not called milking, that's called caving under consumer pressure.

 

You'd have to be a moron to believe EA/Bioware is going to make bad endings for all their games so they can sell ending DLC. It's an absurd notion.

 

All I've got to say is that these people who sit around talking about how eeeeeevil some companies are all day and thinking up conspiracy theories are just as bad as those people who strongly believe they were abducted by aliens and had probes stuck up their butts. It's nothing more than typical melodramatic internet rageboy conspiracy theories. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

It is pathetic that you can't stand consumers actually having morals and not buying a bunch of extra crap that should of already been in the game in the first place. If they put out a free DLC because they did not have enough development time, that is acceptable. Paying extra for the full game when you already spent 60 dollars on it is not.

 

If you allow them to sell ending DLC and they make good profit out of it, they will sell ending DLC. That is not just for Bioware/EA. Other companies will look at it and see it as a chance for profit. Hate to break it to you but business exists for profit, nothing else. If you can make good profit from selling ending DLC they will do it whether you like it or not. If something has a good profit motive people will chase it. Saying that is a conspiracy theory just takes away your credibility.

 

It is quite clear that you just want to have a good ending and you just don't care how bad it might hurt the industry. Try to actually make a point next time instead of calling people morons and "internet rageboys."

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If you think a company will be retarded enough to make bad endings that piss people off in every single one of their games, just so they can sell ending DLC, then me calling you names should be the least of your worries.

 

It IS nothing more than a ridiculous conspiracy theory, sorry to burst your bubble.

 

Bioware did not intend on making this DLC at all. They did not anticipate the reaction to the endings. When people actually got to the endings, they were pissed and demanded Bioware make DLC to fix it, which Bioware is busy doing. Unfortunately though, this is the real world. Contrary to popular belief, it takes time, money and labour to make this extra content. Also contrary to popular belief, EA/Bioware does not have copious amounts of spare money to waste on developing content for free, and paying the bills with rainbows and unicorns doesn't exactly work either.

 

How about YOU go develop games and then see whether YOU can afford to make content and give it away for free? Do that instead of running your mouth by acting like a self-appointed game development expert, and then you can talk about who is killing the gaming industry.

 

It's people like YOU, who believe that expecting a a honest day's pay for a honest day's work is the fall and decline of the entertainment industry who should be ashamed of yourselves. Regardless of whether that content 'should have been in the game from the start' (protip: It shouldn't. If it should have been in the game from the start, it would have been. It's not content that has been removed, it's content being developed after the release of the game), it doesn't change the fact that those developers aren't going to pay their own salaries, and neither are their bills going to pay themselves.

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They shouldn't of already had a good ending in the first place when the game was released? Really? A real ending should of been in the game from the start. Its not like a game such as mass effect, that completely revolves around decision making and story, should have a ending the resolves the story and the decisions you make or anything right?

 

Forgot to mention, but you do know that companies have done this before with the intent of selling the ending separate? A Prince of Persia game had endings sold as DLC before on purpose, without fan reaction. You really think Bioware was not planning on putting out DLC for ME3 when they have for every other game? You really think they looked at the current endings and thought they were just fine?

 

Also I find it funny you think a huge business like EA will have their profit and time seriously effected by making a free ending DLC for a 60 dollar game. Oh no, the huge corporation won't get a bit of extra profit. How terrible.

 

It is not like EA and Bioware have ever cut out parts of their game to put in as DLC before right? Oh wait, that has already happened once with ME3. You know the whole Prothean thing? That is in the game by default. You just have to edit a few things to unlock it. It is not past EA and Bioware to do this kind of stuff. Think something similar happened with Dragon Age as well.

 

Do you not keep in touch with any modern games? You seriously don't know about the kind of crap some companies can get away with in terms of DLC?

 

It does not matter if the company pisses of the consumers if the consumers are willing to spend money on whatever they throw out. It is about profit, not pleasing your audience. A pissed off consumer that still throws money at you is just as good and in some cases better.

 

In my opinion I think you are just deluding yourself into thinking it is fine because you want a ending that doesn't suck.

 

EDIT: Forgot to mention, but you do know that the last two words of the game are literally "downloadable content." Just throwing that out there. They have planned far in advance to put out DLC that extends the game, and your kidding yourself if you really think the developers thought the endings were good.

 

One more thing, you seriously just said "How about YOU go make a game before you criticize it." I better go make a movie before I criticize Twilight or Micheal Bay. I better go make a song before I criticize Little Wayne. I better go write a book before I criticize Mein Kampf.

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Of course they've been planning to release DLC after the game came out. I'm stating that you saying that they planned on releasing ending DLC before release is pretty asinine.

 

You, my friend, like many other gamers out there, are detached from reality. EA is a corporation that spreads it funds between various development houses. Despite what you may think, they do not have infinite funds to push into single projects. And yes, having people work on a project like ending DLC does cost Bioware precious time and money. It is probably going to take a few weeks to finish it. Time for which they have to pay their developers. Time in which the developers should have been working on other projects. And now you expect them to give the content to you for free? Content they weren't planning on creating? Content which consumers are demanding? Get real, please.

 

If anything is bringing the gaming industry down, it is people like you. People who do not have an iota of sense, logic or understanding of how the real world works, much less game development. The day you bought ME3, you bought it under the understanding that you receive exactly what is included within the box, and that EA/Bioware does not owe you anything else. Demanding to get content for free just because you have an over-inflated sense of entitlement is like buying a DVD, then when a Director's Cut DVD releases a few months later you demand getting it for free because the extra scenes 'should have been in the movie from the start'.

 

Stating that you should receive content for free because you already paid $60 is also downright ridiculous. How many other games sold for $60 gives you more than 20 hours of playtime on a single playthrough? The game was more than worth the asking price.

 

As for me? I'm not planning on buying the ending DLC, as I am not planning on buying any DLC for ME3. The ending soured my experience. The damage has been done, and there's no fixing it. I no longer care about the series. So no, I'm not deluded. I'm merely being realistic and grounding my argument in common sense and logic.

 

Either way, I'm done arguing with you. In arguing with you, I'm merely engaging either with a child, or someone who employs excessively child-like logic, and neither prospect sounds much fun to me. Your arguments are nonsensical and clearly not based on an understanding of how the real world works. Expecting Bioware to release DLC at the request of their players is one thing, expecting them to do so for free makes you sound like nothing more than an overentitled brat.

 

Instead of being glad that Bioware is actually listening to fan concerns and doing something about it, you whine on forums because you don't want to pay them for their work. That's really childish, and I don't argue with children. Contact me again once you no longer employ such childish logic and work for free yourself. Until then, enjoy living in your make-believe world where everyone works for free and unicorns slide down rainbows.

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Obviously you are not going to change your mind and there isn't really much point in this if you are not even willing to address my points. Do I need to just recopy what I said for you to actually address it other then you calling me child like and out of touch with reality?

 

You addressed one part where I said EA would not have a serious profit problem with making a free DLC. I am probably actually wrong here and that was a mistake to say that. I went overboard by saying that due to you defending large business. There is a debate section however with topics more fit for this if you want to argue on Capitalism or the likes.

 

Any reason you did not address my point about mass effect being a game that is completely about making decisions for the final battle and has everything in the world to do with the ending and due to that it should of been in the game in the first place? Any reason you did not address my point about how Bioware would notice the endings being bad? Any reason you did not address the point about Prince of Persia? Any reason you did not address my point about the Prothean DLC? I can keep going.

 

It is pretty silly you are going to criticize my logic when every single reply you have made to me has been filled with Ad Hominem.

 

Now if you want to stop dodging my actual arguments I think we could have a nice discussion.

 

Also this

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I'll just jump in here again and say my opinion.

 

Off course I am angry at Bioware for doing this. I expected at least 6 varied endings and I was disappointed with the "Choose your space magic color" endings.

Even if the hallucination thing is true, it should have been in the game from the start.

 

I did not buy the From Ashes DLC, and I will not buy it, ever. That's just a plain ripoff. (I did not buy DLC at all actually, not for one single game. All games I bought are either still standard, like ME2, or GOTY like FO3.)

If CDprojekt RED can give me tons of DLC, patches and even upgrade my version of The Witcher 2 to the Enhanced Edition for free, then Bioware can surely give me some free DLC too.

 

I know that I'm being ripped off and trust me I'm not going to forget it.

I will probably buy this ending DLC, but I definitely won't buy any more products from EA or Bioware.

 

Look at the big picture. They won this battle, but they lost the war.

 

With that said, I'm out of this topic.

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