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Sorry for me but i'll follow what i need on the nexus from another way than consulting the site. I'm using this site since oblivion days and i'm well known used of new web design (part of my job) . Really, i'm not good enough in English to describe all wrong décisions i see in this choosen Template.

 

With old site, the design was showing all the information without too much scroll for example. Here you take 5 more spaces to display the same quantity.

 

the lonely reason for this desing seems the fact that you can use 1/3 of the first screen to display advertisements.

 

Flat design is considered in my job as the worst choice. It was a mode a few years ago and never met the result expected. Many sites (even big world commercial one) that took that way for a Template lost so many users that they had to reconstruct a new one quickly.

 

So, if old site disappear, i'll automate the consultation feed of the new mod page but i will preserve my eyes and my time.

 

Nexus admin are doing a wonderfull job since so many years but, this time, sorry this is a mistake.

 

EDIT : One last sample : on some page the first line of real information start 2 centimeters before the low limit of the screen and a title is displayed on 1/3 of the screen like if everyone was bllind. This post page is a good example !

 

 

 

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Mandala01 wrote: Sorry for me but i'll follow what i need on the nexus from another way than consulting the site. I'm using this site since oblivion days and i'm well known used of new web design (part of my job) . Really, i'm not good enough in English to describe all wrong décisions i see in this choosen Template.

With old site, the design was showing all the information without too much scroll for example. Here you take 5 more spaces to display the same quantity.

the lonely reason for this desing seems the fact that you can use 1/3 of the first screen to display advertisements.

Flat design is considered in my job as the worst choice. It was a mode a few years ago and never met the result expected. Many sites (even big world commercial one) that took that way for a Template lost so many users that they had to reconstruct a new one quickly.

So, if old site disappear, i'll automate the consultation feed of the new mod page but i will preserve my eyes and my time.

Nexus admin are doing a wonderfull job since so many years but, this time, sorry this is a mistake.

EDIT : One last sample : on some page the first line of real information start 2 centimeters before the low limit of the screen and a title is displayed on 1/3 of the screen like if everyone was bllind. This post page is a good example !



Yea, I agree.

I know Nexus team is trying to make the best experience for us, but I'm afraid this new layout is not very functional. Also browsing mods is just confusing now. I can't seem to find how to chose a specific category, you can't see the short description anymore by hovering mouse over a mod... and I barely started using this new layout and I already want to switch back to the old one, which I will for as long as I can.
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operaghost wrote: This mobile device based web design trend should stop. Should have kept the old as an option. Now the things that used to fit on one handy space, require more scrolling and what-other voodoo. Whoever designed this, did not design it for PC. Big panels, big banners, and need for extra scrolling and clicks. Alright, you wanted a fresh change, but why remove old one that actually worked. It may have been old and 'ancient'. but it worked. Was quick and was efficient. Now you have more bling and equally less functionality. I am no fan of all this big panels, and flashy designs. I do prefer functionality and now I have lost it. Oh, well I tried to keep using old one as long as I could, but seems now someone turned the switch. And while design itself is not bad, its bad for a mod hosting site.
HomicidalGrouse wrote: What functionality did you "lose"?
SSJDudeMan wrote: Go for old.nexusmods.com while you still can. We can only hope on a wing and a prayer that they keep the old design available like this, but if not... well, like I said. Someone ought to port it to Stylish or a Greasemonkey userscript.
operaghost wrote: Efficiency and speed on finding files that maybe interesting. What can i say I am no fan of mobile-visuals. Maybe if I'd be skimming mods on a phone, or tablet, I might see it different, I've always favored more compact and minimalism designs that focus on efficiency rather than bling. So now I see 20 panels per page instead old 30, and while drop down offers quick sorting, hoping around categories has become slower.

As side note for example my win 10 uses also Classic Shell - I do not deny it maybe just question of habit and preferences. For me old design and layout felt perfect. New one less. As i said its not bad design, just 'not as good' design in my eyes.

I may have not looked into this too deeply (as I have been using old version up to this moment), but it seems I need to do more clicks/scrolls to achieve same result a la I immediately missed the right hand categories option. Now it is on top, includes extra scrolling and ... more scrolling. Old right hand tab was visible on its full options, and without extra actions/clicks, you were able to navigate while scouting for new potential mods to use.

I would place the 'refine results' back on right or remove scrolling by making it a drop-down menu.

At the end of the day, I've been member over decade and hardly this change would chase me away or make me visit any less. I get used to it like with all changes in past.


What did we lose? - Well, mod browsing functionality which is the main reason why most people go to this site.

Before you could easily choose a category and even type in keywords, to find selected mods. Also when you hovered with your cursor over a mod it displayed the short description. Now if the description doesn't fit in the window you have to open the mod's page to see it. Fewer mods per page as well; and lastly for some reason this orange color scheme is straining my eyes a lot. I'm not kidding... I can hardly look at the screen after writing this.
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I agree with the opinion of no one who does not like the new design! I find it less convenient. (And there are bugs on the search kind I type: "water" I have good research but if I click page 2, I find myself on the homepage)

 

In short, sorry for my English (google trad). If it's possible, let us choose between the old and the new design! ^^

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Je rejoins l’opinion de personne n'aimant pas le nouveau désign ! Je le trouve moins pratique. (Et il y a des bugs sur la recherche genre je tape : "water" j'ai bien la bonne recherche mais si je clique page 2, je me retrouve sur la page d'accueil)

 

Bref, désoler de mon anglais (google trad). Si c'est possible laissez nous le choix entre l'ancien et le nouveau désign ! ^^

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In response to post #55478623. #55478653, #55478708, #55478878, #55481343 are all replies on the same post.


operaghost wrote: This mobile device based web design trend should stop. Should have kept the old as an option. Now the things that used to fit on one handy space, require more scrolling and what-other voodoo. Whoever designed this, did not design it for PC. Big panels, big banners, and need for extra scrolling and clicks. Alright, you wanted a fresh change, but why remove old one that actually worked. It may have been old and 'ancient'. but it worked. Was quick and was efficient. Now you have more bling and equally less functionality. I am no fan of all this big panels, and flashy designs. I do prefer functionality and now I have lost it. Oh, well I tried to keep using old one as long as I could, but seems now someone turned the switch. And while design itself is not bad, its bad for a mod hosting site.
HomicidalGrouse wrote: What functionality did you "lose"?
SSJDudeMan wrote: Go for old.nexusmods.com while you still can. We can only hope on a wing and a prayer that they keep the old design available like this, but if not... well, like I said. Someone ought to port it to Stylish or a Greasemonkey userscript.
operaghost wrote: Efficiency and speed on finding files that maybe interesting. What can i say I am no fan of mobile-visuals. Maybe if I'd be skimming mods on a phone, or tablet, I might see it different, I've always favored more compact and minimalism designs that focus on efficiency rather than bling. So now I see 20 panels per page instead old 30, and while drop down offers quick sorting, hoping around categories has become slower.

As side note for example my win 10 uses also Classic Shell - I do not deny it maybe just question of habit and preferences. For me old design and layout felt perfect. New one less. As i said its not bad design, just 'not as good' design in my eyes.

I may have not looked into this too deeply (as I have been using old version up to this moment), but it seems I need to do more clicks/scrolls to achieve same result a la I immediately missed the right hand categories option. Now it is on top, includes extra scrolling and ... more scrolling. Old right hand tab was visible on its full options, and without extra actions/clicks, you were able to navigate while scouting for new potential mods to use.

I would place the 'refine results' back on right or remove scrolling by making it a drop-down menu.

At the end of the day, I've been member over decade and hardly this change would chase me away or make me visit any less. I get used to it like with all changes in past.
pingvinch wrote: What did we lose? - Well, mod browsing functionality which is the main reason why most people go to this site.

Before you could easily choose a category and even type in keywords, to find selected mods. Also when you hovered with your cursor over a mod it displayed the short description. Now if the description doesn't fit in the window you have to open the mod's page to see it. Fewer mods per page as well; and lastly for some reason this orange color scheme is straining my eyes a lot. I'm not kidding... I can hardly look at the screen after writing this.


dont get your hope up for greysemonkey. firefox is doing absolutely everything tey can to try to annihilate all form of plugin. anf greysemonkey is still not compatible with v57 and it will never be because it need to be recoded from scratch and itll probably have a diferent name when it will be done.
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I dunno, i wish they kept the classic as an option, it's just...so clunky now, or at the very least, kept it ''similar'' in the layout, it feels very alien, and again, clunky also keeping in the theme of aliens, i feel like it alienate older users a lot, we've been using that layout for a long time, and to completly change everything, stuff that we knew by heart, i mean, i could navigate to the place i wanted with my eyes closed, kinda feels like a ''get on with the times old man, f*#@ you''. It just feels less efficient really, its pretty, but clunkier.
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