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[HeyYou]

 

 

Microsoft is easily worthy of a separate thread imo, but again the only folly is expecting any private company to act against its own best interest, or to not exploit every legal avenue to maximize profit for its investors. The problem is not private enterprise imo or even its infinite profit motive, the problem is our country's current and near-absolute lack of protection for internet traffic, and protection of our constitutional rights inherent with this traffic -- just as with our phone traffic, postal mail, package shipping and all other common carriers. Our FCC under our last president already corrected the legal classification for internet traffic and gave it proper Title II protections, but our current president is doing everything possible to stop the inevitable.

 

HeyYou's comments about ISPs and wannabe ISPs like Comcast being primary beneficiaries of this are well noted, but they're only doing what they should be expected to do. However our government is a separate case, and I can think of no more accurate term for the current campaign by Trump and his Verizon shill in our FCC (to destroy net neutrality, restrict all U.S. states from passing their own net neutrality laws etc etc) than abject fascism.

 

As my previous poll link indicates, most Americans continue to believe Trump is unfit for office. Has this ever happened before in our history? Isn't our Congress morally obligated to start impeachment proceedings to replace our current unfit president with a fit one?

President Pence? Is that really what you want? As that is what we get, if we impeach the Donald.

 

The trouble, as I see it, is: The huge corporate service providers have extremely deep pockets, to buy whatever policies they want. The average citizen, does not, so, guess who gets what they want?

I would prefer anyone who's fit to hold the office. At least Pence is accountable to his own party, unlike Trump who is a Republican the same way Hitler and Stalin were socialists.

 

If you look in the Encyclopedia under "religious nut job", you will find a picture of Pence....... No, I really don't want him in the drivers seat, even if God is his copilot.... maybe ESPECIALLY if God is his co-pilot......

[TheMastersSon]

You keep missing my point. As long as a majority of Americans believe Pence is fit for office, he has a right to this office. Unlike our current occupant.

[HeyYou]

You keep missing my point. As long as a majority of Americans believe Pence is fit for office, he has a right to this office. Unlike our current occupant.

Currently, a majority of americans believe our current president is fit for office, it's just a bunch of folks that are still butt-hurt over Hilary losing that are complaining. I will grant you, he is certainly different than any past president.... but, he is still doing the job. (though I may not agree with some of the stuff that is happening, it really wouldn't matter which republican was in office, it would still be happening.)

[TheMastersSon]

Currently, a majority of americans believe our current president is fit for office

Not true, unless one wishes to claim the poll numbers are incorrect:

 

http://www.pollingreport.com/trump_ad.htm

 

Results on this question are not even within the margin of error: an absolute majority of Americans believe Trump is unfit for office, and it's been the case since he took this office.

Edited December 1, 2017 by TheMastersSon

[HeyYou]

The trouble with polls is, you can run the same poll several times, and get different results. Just depends on who you are asking....... so, while there is likely some semblance of accuracy there, I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

 

Still and all, I have zero interest in "President Pence"...... jumping from the frying pan into the fire just doesn't strike me as a good idea. The guy is a religious nut-job. NOT what we need in the oval office.

[TheMastersSon]

For the last time, what we need in the White House is anyone who's fit to serve according to a majority of the American people. If you believe Pence is unfit it's your opinion, and it's probably mine as well if what you claim about him is true. But can you please stop forcibly extrapolating this opinion onto 300+ million other Americans.

[HeyYou]

For the last time, what we need in the White House is anyone who's fit to serve according to a majority of the American people. If you believe Pence is unfit it's your opinion, and it's probably mine as well if what you claim about him is true. But can you please stop forcibly extrapolating this opinion onto 300+ million other Americans.

The american people voted him into office. He IS the president, no matter how much you may dislike him. The only way he is going to be removed from office is if congress does something, or someone shoots him. (or blows him up, or poisons him, or shoots down his helicopter or.... you get the idea.) At this point, all I have seen is some folks making a lot of noise, but, NOT A DAMN THING happening. I don't agree with everything he is doing... but, I haven't agreed with everything ANY president does. I still like him better than Obama, and most certainly a LOT better than Hilary. Although, I note that now it seems even the democratic party is turning on the clintons, and distancing themselves.......

[TheMastersSon]

The american people voted him into office.

No we didn't. Our Electoral College did. Since his first day in office, which btw he spent spinning the attendance numbers at his own inauguration ceremony, Trump's poll numbers have skirted with or set new all-time lows. Also I would really like to know if this has ever happened before in our history, where a majority of Americans have considered our president unfit for office.

 

Please watch now as Mr. Trump hands our constitutional free speech rights over to Comcast and Verizon, to manipulate these rights the exact same way Google now intentionally hides 99.9999% of the world from us in strict accordance with the corporate profit motive and shareholder ROI. Trump owes Comcast/NBC quite a bit, seeing as how the latter steadfastly refused to release footage from the former's 1992 Tonight Show interview that, if it had been seen nationally during the last campaign, would have ended any chance he had of winning the election. If you've never seen this interview imo you should, before you even consider defending human garbage.

Edited December 2, 2017 by TheMastersSon

[HeyYou]

 

The american people voted him into office.

No we didn't. Our Electoral College did. Since his first day in office, which btw he spent spinning the attendance numbers at his own inauguration ceremony, Trump's poll numbers have skirted with or set new all-time lows. Also I would really like to know if this has ever happened before in our history, where a majority of Americans have considered our president unfit for office.

 

Please watch now as Mr. Trump hands our constitutional free speech rights over to Comcast and Verizon, to manipulate these rights the exact same way Google now intentionally hides 99.9999% of the world from us in strict accordance with the corporate profit motive and shareholder ROI. Trump owes Comcast/NBC quite a bit, seeing as how the latter steadfastly refused to release footage from the former's 1992 Tonight Show interview that, if it had been seen nationally during the last campaign, would have ended any chance he had of winning the election. If you've never seen this interview imo you should, before you even consider defending human garbage.

 

And what makes you think any of that would change with President Pence?

 

Trump most certainly isn't the first president to be elected, but NOT win the popular vote. He may not even be the least popular president.... (there were some others before him that weren't real popular either.......)

 

I think this is a situation where "Be careful what you ask for." most certainly comes into play.

[TheMastersSon]

There's a fundamental difference between disagreeing with the politics of a president and considering him unfit to hold the office. It's specifically why I'd like to know if Trump is the first president to be considered unfit by a majority.

 

Nearly all free countries on Earth have provisions in their laws to deal with incompetent and unqualified leaders, in many countries it's called a "vote of no confidence" etc. The bottom line in a free democracy is that the people are not obligated to employ or continue employing anyone who's unfit or unqualified for their office. Even our president.

Edited December 3, 2017 by TheMastersSon