LordBamajab Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Whenever I enter the exterior cell of Whiterun. For example if I leave Whiterun through front gates CTD after brief moment of being loaded in CTD also occurs when exiting Helgen Cave or the path from Rive wood leading up to Helgen where the fork in the road is. This also occurs with Camping in the woods option for alt start. In Alt start I can start inside of Whiterun and everything works fine until I leave the city which is when the CTD occurs. Other Exteriors work Fine as well it seems to be only something loading in this cell causing a crash. 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1st Person Messages.esp=0RLO - Effects.esp=0RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp=0GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp=0VividWeathersSE - Burma Patch.esp=0Vivid Weathers & True Storms MCP.esp=1Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp=0Vivid WeathersSE - Winter.esp=0Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=0SoS_VividWeathers_Patch.esp=0WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1SoS_TrueStorms_Patch.esp=0WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp=1AdditionalMusicProjectReplacer.esp=1AdditionalMusicProject.esp=1Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp=1NirShor-MusicalLore.esp=1Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp=1icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp=1FNIS.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1Patch.esp=1RWT - People of Skyrim Patch.esp=0SoS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp=0RLO - IC Patch.esp=0RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp=0Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=0WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp=1:Note Patch includes all of the 0.esp files inside of it except for the batched patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck1st Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Now I figured that since you have a Bashed page you know about LOOT and Cleaning your masters/mods. I've heard of some folks having issues with SkyUI with it causing CTDs but folks have to remember that is still in Beta testing. Blood Textures I had issues with that one there and since I got rid of that one and wet and Cold I've not had any problems at all. I've got 200 + mods installed and activated right now and have not had one ctd. Of course I I only currently have a small handfull of the same mods as you got so I can lonly say on the ones I've tried myself. Immersive Citizens I had issues with as well. You've got a file called Patch.esp Which I'm not sure what mod that there is from Not the SSE Unofficial patch as I don't have it. Also I know "cutting room floor is stuff for which didn't make the game so could be issues with that there or soemthing conflicting with it.. Just somethings you might want to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 With such an amount of mods installed it's going to be pretty difficult to weed-out the culprit without starting afresh in vanilla (or at least only with those mods of which you're sure they don't cause the CTD) and adding mods one at a time until you found what causes the crash. Just like Redneck, I have over two-hundred mods (347 of which 222 have a plug-in) and not a single crash, 250hrs into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBamajab Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 So I beleive I found the problem for whatever reason QaxeQuestorium causes CTD in the areas described. I'm not sure what this is conflicting with, perhaps WICO? To be honest I recommend downloading Alternate Start to anyone who has to go through this process simply because it makes everything much easier.I honestly did not expect of all the mods to ctd this entire area that it would a New Lands mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck1st Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 With such an amount of mods installed it's going to be pretty difficult to weed-out the culprit without starting afresh in vanilla (or at least only with those mods of which you're sure they don't cause the CTD) and adding mods one at a time until you found what causes the crash. Just like Redneck, I have over two-hundred mods (347 of which 222 have a plug-in) and not a single crash, 250hrs into the game. And believe me it took a lot of trial and error to get everything to play nicely. Now I"ve got more mods for which I'd like to add to my current mods but I need to find a way to copy my current load order without having to write it all down on paper. Any Ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragthemercenary Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I thought I would add my limited mod list. After deleting some 200 mods, I'm STILL having the CTD problem. I can't leave an interior space without a CTD. Here are my mods: XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended Animation 3/13/2018 4:19:22 PM 3/13/2018 4:16:27 PM 37607 4.20 / 4.20 Groovtama WeightLess Gameplay Effects and Changes 3/13/2018 7:28:16 PM 3/13/2018 7:26:45 PM 16423 1.4 / 1.4 Predence00 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch - Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch Bug Fixes 3/13/2018 3:29:27 PM 3/13/2018 3:28:39 PM 46253 4.1.2a / 4.1.2a Unofficial Patch Project Team Tiwa44 Minidresses Collection UNPB-BBP-SSE - Tiwa44 Minidresses Collection UNPB_BBP_SSE-1-4 Clothing 3/13/2018 7:36:28 PM 3/14/2018 11:01:49 AM 43681 1.4 / 1.4 Tiwa44 and MrTroublemaker The People Of Skyrim Complete SSE - The People Of Skyrim Complete SSE Immersion 3/14/2018 4:57:14 PM 3/14/2018 4:54:48 PM 47742 V7.2.2 / V7.2.2 Nesbit098 Static Mesh Improvement Mod Models and Textures 3/13/2018 3:39:03 PM 3/13/2018 3:33:13 PM 32625 2.07 / 2.07 Brumbek ShowRaceMenu Alternative - ShowRaceMenu Alternative - Latest Version Miscellaneous 3/18/2018 4:21:18 PM 3/18/2018 4:20:52 PM 2703 3.0.0 / 3.0.0 Seb263 Seductive Lips HD SE Edition - Seductive Lips HD SE Edition Body, Face, and Hair 3/13/2018 7:48:32 PM 3/13/2018 7:41:31 PM 10149 1.0 / 1.0 EcthelionOtW Riverside Lodge - Riverside Lodge Player homes 3/13/2018 4:30:54 PM 3/13/2018 4:30:46 PM 25190 1.1.0 / 1.1.0 Lupus Rich Skyrim Merchants Mercantiles (shops, stores, inns, taverns, etc) 3/13/2018 7:24:28 PM 3/13/2018 7:19:43 PM 29328 2.0 / 2.0 EddieTheEagle Realistic Ragdolls and Force Gameplay Effects and Changes 3/13/2018 7:10:56 PM 3/13/2018 7:10:07 PM 9861 1.92 / 1.92 dDefinder Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim - Ordinator v926 Overhauls 3/13/2018 4:07:15 PM 3/13/2018 4:06:48 PM 35018 9.26SSE / 9.26SSE Enai Siaion Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim - 20 percent More Perk Points Overhauls 3/13/2018 4:07:21 PM 3/13/2018 4:06:53 PM 1830 9.26SSE / 9.26SSE Enai Siaion No BS AI Projectile Dodge (Magic and Arrows) - Immersive Projectiles Nondetection of Enemies - No BS AI Projectile Dodge - 1.2 alpha Combat 3/13/2018 7:36:34 PM 3/13/2018 7:36:06 PM 10629 1.2alpha / 1.2alpha Reize Left Hand Rings Modified SE Clothing - Jewelry 3/13/2018 7:38:08 PM 3/13/2018 7:33:41 PM 22238 4.4 / 4.4 Homercide Lanterns of Skyrim SE - Lanterns of Skyrim SE Environmental 3/13/2018 4:28:14 PM 3/13/2018 7:17:56 PM 3332 1.01 / 1.01 MannyGT JS Armored Circlets SE - 4k Textures - JS Armored Circlets SE Armour 3/13/2018 7:48:26 PM 3/13/2018 7:44:42 PM 2667 1.0 / 1.0 johnskyrim Immersive Weapons Crafting - Immersive Weapons Crafting v.3.0 Gameplay Effects and Changes 3/13/2018 4:35:18 PM 3/13/2018 4:35:04 PM 20613 3.0 / 3.0 GovnoWriter Immersive Armors - Immersive Armors 8.1 SSE Armour 3/13/2018 3:51:24 PM 3/13/2018 3:46:28 PM 5924 8.1 / 8.1 Hothtrooper44 Hold Border Banners - Hold Border Banners Immersion 3/13/2018 7:38:13 PM 3/13/2018 7:34:46 PM 11629 1.1 / 1.1 Thicketford Footprints - Footprints 1.5.3 Visuals and Graphics 3/13/2018 7:10:30 PM 3/13/2018 7:09:14 PM 9990 1.5.3 / 1.5.3 jonwd7 ETHEREAL CLOUDS - Special Edition - ETHEREAL CLOUDS - Special Edition - 2K Models and Textures 3/13/2018 7:47:50 PM 3/13/2018 7:42:41 PM 3236 1.0 / 1.0 Gamwich Cloaks of Skyrim SSE Clothing 3/13/2018 7:23:59 PM 3/13/2018 7:21:15 PM 18422 1.2.1 / 1.2.1 NikiNoodles and Nazenn Breezehome - Eli's Breezehome Overhaul BETA 1.6 Player homes 3/13/2018 7:15:44 PM 3/13/2018 7:14:31 PM 11012 1.6 / 1.6 Elianora Book Covers Skyrim - Book Covers Skyrim SE - Desaturated Models and Textures 3/13/2018 7:16:59 PM 3/13/2018 7:16:10 PM 40355 4.2 / 4.2 DanielCoffey Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement - Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement Crafting 3/13/2018 7:07:34 PM 3/13/2018 7:05:32 PM 43028 2.0.3 / 2.0.3 Arthmoor ApachiiSkyHair SSE - ApachiiSkyHair_v_1_6_Full_optimized Body, Face, and Hair 3/13/2018 4:12:26 PM 3/13/2018 4:12:02 PM 27721 1.6.Full / 1.6.Full Apachii Alternate Start - Live Another Life - Alternate Start - Live Another Life Gameplay Effects and Changes 3/13/2018 4:15:31 PM 3/13/2018 3:48:56 PM 29491 4.0.3 / 4.0.3 Arthmoor ACE - BYOG - Balance Your Own Game Utilities 3/13/2018 4:20:49 PM 3/13/2018 4:20:24 PM 34737 1.0 / 1.0 Athyra A Quality World Map - 8.4 A Quality World Map - Classic with All Roads User Interface 3/13/2018 4:02:30 PM 3/13/2018 4:02:07 PM 13017 8.4CA / 9.0.1 IcePenguin Nothing works for me. Absolutely nothing. And some of the CTDs cause me to have to clean the Update, Dawnguard, Hearthfires, and Dragonborn, all over again. I've even run the game in vanilla, after uninstalling and reinstalling the game. Nothing works. I'm at wit's end ... PS Sorry about my mod list. I'm only running 30 mods, right now, and have MUCH MORE than enough computer power to run this game (I run Witcher 3 with no problems). Also, I should point out that I'm running Skyrim SE ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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