NPC Face meshes/color mismatch/facetint problem

[ZuluS162]

Hello everyone. Here is a problem I really need help with. Any NPC in my current Skyrim build has a mix of annoying troubles with their faces. Doesn't matter if it's vanilla NPC, modded vanilla NPC or NPC added by mod. I can't realy say what's the source of the problem, though I have some guesses. I've ran into this bug after I moved from Nexus Mod Manager to Mod Organizer.

As I sad, this is a mix of Skyrim face bugs:

1. NPC face color mismatch bug.
2. NPCs with custom face meshes don't have correct one.
3. NPC facetint bug.

I've tried to fix theese bugs separately: reinstalled related mod many times, resolved any found cosmetic mod incompatabilities, exported FaceGenData (something is wrong with it too, I'll provide extra information about it if needed.) but nothing of it helped.

Here is some screenshots to show you what is happening.

Pic #1: Normal modded vanilla NPC (Bijin Warmaidens) with no face glitches on them. This is happening when I load saved game right after Skyrim launched.



Pic #2: Same NPCs just a few seconds after with face glitch applied. This is happening when I change world cells (e.g fast travel/walk in/out of a house/dungeon/e.t.c.) or reload the saved game while playing.

 

Pic #3: Vanilla unmodded NPC without glitch. Same situation as on Pic #1.



Pic #4: Same NPC after reloading saved game while playing.



Pic #5: NPC added by mod. Same situation as on Pic #1.



Pic #6: Same NPC after changing cell.



Pic#7: Modded vanilla child (TKAA (The Kids Are Alright)). Same as Pic#1.



Pic#8: Same NPC after reloading saved game/changing cell (something with her hair too).



Load Order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm

7 7 Falskaar.esm

8 8 Wyrmstooth.esp

9 9 hdtHighHeel.esm

10 a SGHairPackBase.esm

11 b SexLab.esm

12 c SexLabAroused.esm

13 d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

14 e Devious Devices - Assets.esm

15 f Skyrim unleashed II.esm

16 10 Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp

17 11 BeeingFemale.esm

18 12 PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm

19 13 BSAssets.esm

20 14 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

21 15 BSHeartland.esm

22 16 Campfire.esm

23 17 ZaZAnimationPack.esm

24 18 Devious Devices - Integration.esm

25 19 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

26 1a daymoyl.esm

27 1b OSA.esm

28 1c WM Flora Fixes.esp

29 1d EFFCore.esm

30 1e ApachiiHair.esm

31 1f ApachiiHairFemales.esm

32 20 Cutting Room Floor.esp

33 21 SkyUI.esp

34 22 Dual Sheath Redux.esp

35 23 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

36 24 XPMSE.esp

37 25 FNIS.esp

38 26 RaceMenu.esp

39 27 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

40 28 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

41 29 CEM-AiO.esp

42 2a KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

43 2b SLAnimLoader.esp

44 2c SexLabTools.esp

45 2d SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp

46 2e SLAL_K4Anims.esp

47 2f NibblesAnimObjects.esp

48 30 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp

49 31 UIExtensions.esp

50 32 AddItemMenu2.esp

51 33 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

52 34 Enhanced Landscapes.esp

53 35 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

54 36 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp

55 37 WetandCold.esp

56 38 AOS.esp

57 39 Animated Dragon Wings.esp

58 3a Real Flying.esp

59 3b CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp

60 3c SnowFall Weathers.esp

61 3d Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp

62 3e Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

63 3f Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp

64 40 WetFunction.esp

65 41 Za Warudo.esp

66 42 FNIS_PCEA2.esp

67 43 SLALAnimObj.esp

68 44 SlaveTats.esp

69 45 TakeNotes.esp

70 46 Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp

71 47 JaxonzRenamer.esp

72 48 ResplendentArmor.esp

73 49 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp

74 4a PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp

75 4b VSCiriProjectTW3.esp

76 4c DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp

77 4d DovahBlingJewelryStandalone.esp

78 4e KKFur.esp

79 4f SimplyKnock.esp

80 50 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

81 51 Private Needs.esp

82 52 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp

83 53 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

84 54 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp

85 55 VioLens.esp

86 56 TKDodge.esp

87 57 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

88 58 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

89 59 Differently Ebony.esp

90 5a imp_helm_legend.esp

91 5b ICH - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp

92 5c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

93 5d LootandDegradation.esp

94 5e 3DNPC.esp

95 5f Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

96 60 Skyrim Romance Animated.esp

97 61 ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp

98 62 KS Jewelry.esp

99 63 Civil War Overhaul.esp

100 64 BHTNF_Eli.esp

101 65 MainMenu.esp

102 66 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

103 67 Ambriel.esp

104 68 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

105 69 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

106 6a Immersive Weapons.esp

107 6b Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

108 6c TheChoiceIsYours.esp

109 6d Tentapalooza.esp

110 6e Inconsequential NPCs.esp

111 6f SMIM-Merged-All.esp

112 70 TKAA.esp

113 71 sanguinesDebauchery.esp

114 72 Hunterborn.esp

115 73 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

116 74 Immersive Horses.esp

117 75 Enhanced Landscapes - Patch.esp

118 76 Frostfall.esp

119 77 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp

120 78 CaranthirTowerReborn.esp

121 79 SexLab_Dialogues.esp

122 7a Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

123 7b Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp

124 7c Unique Uniques.esp

125 7d FurSet by keung.esp

126 7e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

127 7f Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp

128 80 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

129 81 Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp

130 82 PlayRandomIdle.esp

131 83 Better Vampires.esp

132 84 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

133 85 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp

134 86 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp

135 87 PuppetMaster.esp

136 88 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

137 89 Ursine Armour.esp

138 8a Sneak Tools.esp

139 8b SexLab_Hormones.esp

140 8c Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

141 8d Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

142 8e SexLab Eager NPCs.esp

143 8f Devious Deviants.esp

144 90 isilNarsil.esp

145 91 CTR_Patch_EnhancedLandscapes.esp

146 92 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

147 93 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

148 94 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp

149 95 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp

150 96 EggFactory.esp

151 97 CTR_Patch_UniqueUniques.esp

152 98 Skyrim unleashed II.esp

153 99 EFFDialogue.esp

154 9a DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

155 9b Toccata as Elisif.esp

156 9c iHUD.esp

157 9d AHZmoreHUD.esp

158 9e Extended UI.esp

159 9f BlushWhenAroused.esp

160 a0 DovahBlingJewelryMerged.esp

161 a1 LandLord_.esp

162 a2 Bijin Wives.esp

163 a3 Bijin NPCs.esp

164 a4 Bijin Warmaidens.esp

165 a5 SexLabMilkMod.esp

166 a6 TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp

167 a7 DAZ3D.esp

168 a8 TradeBarter.esp

169 a9 KS Hairdo's.esp

170 aa GoToBed.esp

171 ab Dr_Bandolier.esp

172 ac DeadlyHeadshots_v200.esp

173 ad CoverSelf.esp

174 ae Serana.esp

175 af Valerica.esp

176 b0 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp

177 b1 SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp

178 b2 Player Size Adjuster.esp

179 b3 CitrusHead - Standalone.esp

180 b4 SL Deadly Drain.esp

181 b5 SOS - Penis Plugin.esp

182 b6 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

183 b7 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

184 b8 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

185 b9 RealisticWaterTwo - Patches.esp

186 ba RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp

187 bb RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp

188 bc Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

189 bd ImmerSlave.esp

190 be ELFX - Hardcore.esp

191 bf Immersive Citizens - ELFXHardcore patch.esp

192 c0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

193 c1 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

As you can see, I have quite heavily modded game. Can this be a reason? I have some guesses about glitch source though.

• I did something wrong with my Mod Organizer or game configs. I haven't ran into this bug when I was using Nexus Mod Manager.
• CITUS Head meshes mod caused it
• Skyrim/PC just can't handle all the mods.

PC rig:

Intel Core I5 2300 4x2.8 GHz
ASUS GTX 1060 6GB
16 GB DDR3 1333 MHz
Win 10 Pro

I will provide any extra information if needed. Really hope you can help me solve this trouble. Thank you in advance.

Edited January 6, 2018 by ZuluS162

[Moosmupfel]

I dont know if ur problem still exist but it is clearly a conflict between the head meshes (facegen) of the npc.First what you can do is looking if there are different meshes in use.

 

For example find out the ID of one NPC that has that problem (in your picture for example Lydia) - her ID number you can get by loading the skyrim.esm in tes5edit/ssedit and search in the left panel under non player character and in that List should be "housecarlWhiterun" to find. Write down the Form ID and exit without saving. You can also find the Form ID Number by searching in google, but not every source is correct or complete. So Lydia for example has 000a2cbe - this number you enter in search field of your skyrim data folder or in your case in the subfolder "mods" of the mod organizer path. In the result texture (dds) and meshes (nif) should be shown. Important is that the meshes should look the same (you can open them with nifscope and will see if there are difference). For Bijin for example the facegen mesh should be in meshes\actors\character\facegendata\facegeom\<modname>.esp but also meshes\actors\character\facegendata\facegeom\skyrim.esm. If the last path is missing create in the same mod that path structure and only copy the content of the folder of <modname>.esp into the new subfolder skyrim.esm. Same you do with the textures.

 

Other possibility is, that other mod overwrite, but that you easily already found out by the ID search in the mod folder (but also look in the path of your Data folder in the normal Skyrim path) or in loading all esp in tes5edit if two mods change the same character (appears red then). Also if you have the citrus head installed and saved something else in CreationKit, you accidently could have created new facegen meshes. Just make sure they all with the same ID have the same look.

 

I have every character in my game replaced too make everyone look unique - so have been through a lot of troubles with that too :) Hope I could help u a bit and it fixes the issue that you have

[Pippboss]

Have you tried moving Bijin mods as an entire package lower down your load order so nothing overwrites them? Put TKAA.esp and its dependencies below Bijin AIO.esp I had same issue not long ago with a very complex npc setup including Ultimate NPC overhaul 2, Bijin mods some other mods I forget the names of a TES5Merged file overwriting something along with a bashed patch. Only way I could fix it was to put all my NPC altering mods into a block and move them in MO so Ult NPC overhaul 2 and Bijin along with TKAA are loading late. Not seen it happen since.

Now it goes something like this.

ESM's

rest of my mods

NPC mod 1

NPC mod 2

Bijin mods

TKAA

TKAA dependencies

160 mods running. Actually I just looked an I may need to resort em again but I tried hiding texture files in MO I checked them in xEdit my only fix was an ESP move. Make sure you mirror that load order in left and right pain. BTW It bugged me for 3 or 4 days. xEdit pointed the way.

Good luck hope it helped

[Messina13]

Hello! did you find a way to correct that? Cause i got the same problem :(

[KAPKYH]

Hi! Have same problems
i'm using NMM and never even try MO so problem is not there
This is definetly not citrus head problem (tested on this week)
and if its in PC rig - well then its CPU fault
I have i5 2500 8 gb ddr3 1333mhz win10 and gtx770 4gb
and mb some engine limitations Skyrim LE

looking for cure already around month and still nothing
trying to change loadorder dont work as you all can see then you loads near npc its have good looking and properly working heads and bug acure then npc changes their locations from one cell to other or reloads game

So its or SKSE related things - like npc managment with nioverride
Or engine limitations
or some 3rd thing

[KAPKYH]

So.... i asked topicstarter - did he find clue of these mismatches
answer = Slavetats mod
if you upgrade it ( in my case 1.30 beta ->1.30 beta2) all will be fine

[Mythos214]

I had this exact same bug a while back with the exact same mod. "Fixed it" by uninstalling it and switching to Pandorable's NPC mods..

[hunlucansu]

hi same thing also happens to me but i dont have any npc mods that alter npc appearances like bijin, pandorable or anything. it only happens to my character. can u guys help?

Edited October 21, 2021 by hunlucansu