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Wild stab in the dark but I'm guessing load order is the culprit. Fire up loot or hit the sort button.

heh i have crappy eyes, glasses and big monster of a monitor about 18inch from my face. I did have it pushed up against the wall but my eyes where failing me. So i brought it forward 6 or so inches an i can see much better now. :cool: :laugh:

Yes its HDT related, but also CPU horse power related. Best you can do is experiment with it some. Bodysliding every single Armor and piece of clothing in the game doesn't help if its an issue or you have a weaker CPU. Sometimes less is more.

SSE can push them RAM VRAM limits quickly. I was seeing them numbers also whilst testing it last year. With a fraction of the mods you have running :) Good job :thumbsup:

My 1060 6gb is running 2k with about 230 mods in my load order. The load order in question is very texture heavy. Some is 4k because I can. Advise. Pick a mod manager either Vortex. Nexus mod manager or Mod organiser and stick with it. Look on You tube for tutorials. Read lots, trawl forums for info install the tools you need and always read the mod pages and you'll be fine. I generally send people to either gamer poets, Gopher or dirty weasel media. All have some fantastic stuff accumulated over the years. Good luck with the modding and have fun.

I run a heavily modded game that includes in my load order alternate start. I can 100% guarentee i will run into same issues should i choose the option for a vanilla start. However if i exit back to menu as soon as i can open the menu i can reload my setup save and then run through the vanilla start normally.

It could be CPU related, the physics engine is freaking out at the wind blowing the trees. It could also be video card related. I am leaning towards CPU as its only a dual core at 2ghz. It may be time to upgrade.

Yea now it time to check mod requirements it may pad out your load order abit but more important will be the actual load order itself. Mod cleaning and the likes. Also test the load order with a new charachter dont try continue any play through untill you have a stable load order. Even then, after you finished tinkering the old play through MAY be toast. Last thing ill say is this LOOT download it.

You dont exactly have an excessive load order so my best guess is Skyrim is running out of RAM. Do the memory hack as suggested above, Can also try a mod called Crash fixes. That has built in memory patch that allows you to force your OS to manage your memory rather than Skyrim, (Far as I understand it). https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725 can also find a great tutorial/overview of how that actually works at Dirtyweaselmedia's youtube channel in his 2016 modding guide. The above applies to only Skyrim Legendary edition) One question I do have though is are you running SSE (Skyrim special edition) Or Skyrim LE? This is the LE Forum. Don't mix mods from one game up with mods from the other. However if you are running SSE you'll need a mod called SSEEngine fixes https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230 which I understand does the same thing for Skyrim special edition. Check out your load order with LOOT and check your mods are clean with XEdit (You may need to search youtube for some up to date tutorials on cleaning mods with https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/164 or https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859 depending on which game you are running. Also worth going through every single mod in your load order and double check you have all the required mods for each mod. Then make sure you have all the requirements for all them other mods you may be forced to install. You might want too investigate the possibility of upgrading to 16gb of RAM. hope it helps

Did you have, at some point cutting room floor installed? I think its content from CRF if its been removed problem solved?

Looks like a body load order issue with an armour mod, You could try running bodyslide and then FNIS. Do you have a CBBE Armor mod overwriting CBBE's body slide files? Has your load order changed at any time in the last few days?

The more mods you add the worse it will become. SSE will use the system resources your PC has. Then beg for more RAM/VRAM.Throwing another GPU and more CPU cores and RAM at the problem will only go so far. Be prudent with the size/quality of textures you add to your load order. Throw enough mods and high res textures at SSE you can and will bring even the newest of PC's to its knees. Even though i get lower FPS than desired with 180+ mods an a whole bunch of high res textures my game is still butter smooth. Yea I get dips into the high 40's in busy crowded area's but unless I'm watching an FPS counter I'd not notice it one bit. Ask yourself is the game smooth and stable? If the answer is yes go play have fun an switch off the FPS counters. As for a 1660ti you'll most likley be able to run at Ultra with an ENB and a whole bunch of 4k textures.

I run almost 200+ mods with a less than 6 months old Ryzen 5 2600x and 16 gb of ram. Its graphically intensive and script heavy. When I run Skyrim through SKSE Skyrim throws a fit and I get a black loading screen and a window stating its pretty much crashed or you think it has. Windows (in my case at least) is talking crap. Game is fine. PC is fine.

Abit confused is this SSE It could just be too many mods I lost count around the 250ish mark an was still scrolling. Did you let Bethini create your ini files? Which ENB are you using if any?

Try a lower resoluton see if it smooths things out. You might be hitting RAM and VRAM issues. Take a peek at afterburner see what numbers it throws at you.

Sometimes the only thing one can do is start a new play through. Due to the forced updates from Bethesda an that silly creation club (not a fan). Last time it happened I made damn sure I could roll back before I sent my SSE off the cliff by backing up my SSE.exe

Does Rusting clothing have an ESP?

I was doing some research last year into the whole HDT stretching thing over on the other place we shall not mention... however it seems the HDT stretch problem could be caused by CPU getting stressed a little too hard. Its kind of connected to the whole NPC going invisible. But that was almost a year ago an I eaten since then so I'm not sure where the thread would have been. I used to have an FX 6300 (horrible chip) and it utterly hated oldrim HDT. I used to get all sorts of problems like invisible NPC's and HDT wildness...To the point of me stopping using any thing HDT. Not because I didn't like the physics more because my PC even when I added another 8gb of RAM couldn't handle more than a token sample of HDT. Hope it helped some.

Im not suggesting Riverwood hunters Cabin an forrest mods are bad in any way but it seems they are not playing nice with OC. Suggest you try rolling back to before you added them and remove them from your load order. I still use MO2 for SSE so if it was me doing this i'd create a new profile and isolate it from my main play through so i could test it out. It may just be a simple load order issue. But after 15000 crashes and several years of breaking my skrim i now air on the side of caution. My simple rules of thumb Test test test. Never add a mod part way through a serious play through. Extensivly play test and stress test Skyrim. Never change the load order in a serious play through Use loot and the community created tools like SSE Edit. Research It can take me weeks somtimes to create a mod list. It can take me weeks to play test it. I'd rather it be that way than my level 150 golden child Dragon born high level charchter with over 700 hours gets corrupted. SSE aint perfect but with the right tools and mods lots of care and research it can be damn close to it. Also one thing to bare in mind is system recources. I have a Ryzen 5 2600x and 16 gb of RAM with a GTX 1060 6gb and if im not careful SSE will eat all my memory and VRAM. CPU isnt phased by any of that modding stuff it just eats it up. However SSE will eat every bit of power your PC has an then ask for more. Pay close attension to RAM and VRAM usage as you can quickly kill the whole experience with too many mods. So muc so im considering throwing another 16 gb of Ram in my rig so i have no excuses :laugh:

Try Bethini you can find it here on Nexus.

My frost spider instict is telling me HDT. Do you have the entire skyrim population wandering around with HDT armors?

See i never been kicked out the game to main menu so its a toughy. If its going to fall over it just does that . I dont see anything in your load order that thumps me in the head and says 'i did it' either. What are your system specs? I take it you ran loot? it might give you more of a clue than i can :laugh: I have had issues with unstable load orders not letting me save and quit like you would at end of a nights dragon slaying. An yea I had more crashes that I can shake a stick at but nothing that just boots me back to main menu. Aa it kicks you out, Does it get a chance to create a new save? Can you use that save? can you re enter the game or do you need to re load Skyrim? My instinct is telling me mod conflict. Or a corrupt download/install of a mod. One thing I did have happen quite a lot though was exit crashes where id exit a building/cave and it would just crash or lock up. I figured that was just me rushing and been slightly too far away from the door to transit on top of a bad load order Now I make sure my nose is smelling the wood :ohmy: before i hit the key. One last thing have you installed or uninstalled any mods or changed the load order?

I'd start by trying it without open cities. Disable the mod and any of its dependents and try it without. Its a fantastic mod but it doesn't always play nice. Does ETAC have an open cities patch?

Its not a good idea to add, remove or change load order on active playthrough. The moment you do so you have effectively created a broken chain link that will always break.

Something must have got a case of the old file corruption. Personally i'd roll back a save or 10 to a point before it started happening and see if you can replicate the problem. Another thing to try is a new game to test it all out. That way you do no damage to a good play through