nagrom2608 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Well the one I've got now seems to work until I try and get outside. Can't even coc to Riverwood. My usual quick get out route. I've decided not to bother with ENB's now. As this is where my problems started. I've disabled Rudy's enb. However I found a mod that required it. Disabled that too. Then removed all traces using ENB remover https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/30689 However I'm still getting CTD when I try and enter the open world. Tried disabling the weather mods. Still no use. Pretty much everything else is just graphics enhancments. I'll get to the bottom of this if it kills me LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippboss Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 You still crashing with just Skyrim and DLC ESM's along with SKSE?Skyrim ESMUpdate ESMDawnguard ESMHearthfire ESMDragonborn ESMUSLEPSKSE Scripts Alternate start live another live?Is the CDT instant? Does it load the world space then crash after a few seconds? Ability for the game to run that above example is absolutely essential. If they don't work you have 0-nil chance with 243 mods loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 I'm going to create a bare bones character tonight with just this set up,and see if I can recreate this CTD issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippboss Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) IF it wont run at all, ENB checks out memory blocks checks out the ESM's are clean ENBlocal.ini works then and only if you cannot run the game would I reinstall skyrim. Back up your mod organiser folder and remove the game also make sure you remove your ini files from Documents/mygames/skyrim. One last thing to check is steam installed in default directory? How much hassle will it be too move it from my programs? (default location). I think Gamer poets has a video on his you tube channel? If you end up reinstalling I would seriously take a peek at his channel's ''modding skyrim from start to finish'' play list. Edited January 17, 2018 by Pippboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) I'll reinstal ENBoost, along with the latest enb binary. See if that helps. If I install the enb binary, do I HAVE TO install an enb from the nexus as well. Real Vision, or Rudy? Remember I said that's where the problems started. Also the game is actually already installed on a separate drive. Edited January 17, 2018 by nagrom2608 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Okay this is getting ridiculous now.... I have a very basic bare essentials set up containing ONLY Skyrim, and the DLC's. USLEP, SKSE, SkyUI, and Live another Life.I've installed, and configured ENBoost EXACTLY as per Slothability's video Started a new game EXACTLY the same as the one last night. Choose Breezehome as my starting point. As soon as i clicked on the bed in the prison to start the new game. CTD!!!! Now that autosave wont load at all. I even tried a vanilla start to see if there was a problem with Live another Life. The autosave created as soon as you name your character CTD as soon as I try and load it. Now I'm even more baffled than before. It looks like the vanilla game is screwed. *** EDIT *** Okay I've just removed all traces of the ENB, and associated files. EVERYTHING seems to load up fine now. Clearly, even though I followed the installation guide to the letter, there's an issue with all things ENB related, and my game. Looks like I've FINALLY got a place to start rebuilding my mod list. I'll let you know how things go. Thanks a million for all the advice, and tips. I'll buy you a beer should we ever meet LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippboss Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Very welcome, ok so you tracked it too an ENB. What video card are you running? Been a long time since I had an NVidia card in my system so I wont really be able to help with that side but maybe help with AMD side. Not sure about intel's on board stuff. Indecently my current setup wont run with a full blown ENB either. Crashes as soon as I start a new game but I think that's because I'm upscaling my desktop to 1440p and downscaling it to 1080p for Skyrim. In Beth.ini have you selected the check box for an ENB? Make sure your INI files are being setup with Beth.ini you can direct the program to where that ini lives otherwise you can play with it all day long an it will just write new ini files in my documents. Same goes for a new profile in MO you need to create a new set of INI files even if you don't use Beth.ini so I rather use Beth.ini an I keep forgetting too lol To answer that important question 'do I need an enb?' Kinda yes you do even If its just running as ENBoost ( how I run it) for the memory hacks to work. You could try run the game with no ENB no ENBoost ect but you will crash a lot especially with a lot of texture mods its a 32bit program with a 3.2gb ram limit After as many years as I messed about with skyrim I don't care how powerful your PC is without them memory hacks you cannot run a lot of mods. A high level vanilla toon will strain the game engine to breaking point without them memory hacks and skse in tow. Edited January 17, 2018 by Pippboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 First of all my PC spec is this: - i5 6400 2.708 GB memoryNvidia GTX 1050ti 4GB I've reinstalled the ENB, and set BethINI to enb mode. Configured it, and TRIED to load up the save that worked last night. Instant CTD. Also tried to start a new game. CTD as soon as I clicked on the bed in Live another Life. If it helps here's ALL my INI files. skyrim.ini [Archive]bInvalidateOlderFiles=1SInvalidationFile=sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Invalidation.bsa, Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa, Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsasResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa [Audio]fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0 [Camera]fMouseWheelZoomSpeed=0.80 [Combat]f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=2f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=1f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=2.5fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0 [Controls]fMouseHeadingSensitivityMax=0.0994fMouseHeadingXScale=0.0200fMouseHeadingYScale=0.8500 [Decals]bDecals=1uMaxSkinDecalPerActor=40uMaxSkinDecals=50 [Display]bAllowScreenshot=1fDecalLifetime=300fLightLODMaxStartFade=7250fLightLODRange=33750fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000fSunShadowUpdateTime=1fSunUpdateThreshold=0.5iPresentInterval=1 [General]bBackgroundLoadVMData=1fFlickeringLightDistance=8192sLanguage=ENGLISHSLocalSavePath=Saves\Nagrom\uExterior Cell Buffer=36uGridsToLoad=5 [GeneralWarnings]SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Grass]b30GrassVS=0bAllowCreateGrass=1bAllowLoadGrass=0bDrawShaderGrass=1bGrassPointLighting=1fGrassFadeRange=7500fGrassWindMagnitudeMax=125fGrassWindMagnitudeMin=5iGrassCellRadius=2iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=15iMinGrassSize=70 [LightingShader]fDecalLODFadeEnd=0.6fDecalLODFadeStart=0.5fEnvmapLODFadeEnd=0.7fEnvmapLODFadeStart=0.6 [LOD]fDistanceMultiplier=1.00 [MapMenu]bWorldMapNoSkyDepthBlur=1fMapWorldMaxHeight=130000.0000fMapWorldMinHeight=5000.0000fMapWorldYawRange=400fWorldMapDepthBlurScale=0fWorldMapMaximumDepthBlur=0fWorldMapNearDepthBlurScale=0sMapCloudNIF=0 [Papyrus]bEnableLogging=0bEnableTrace=0bLoadDebugInformation=1 [Trees]bEnableTreeAnimations=1bEnableTrees=1fUpdateBudget=1.5 [Water]bReflectLODLand=1bReflectLODObjects=1bReflectLODTrees=1bReflectSky=1 skyrimprefs.ini [AudioMenu]fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000fVal0=1.0000fVal1=1.0000fVal2=0.0000fVal3=1.0000fVal4=1.0000fVal5=1.0000fVal6=1.0000fVal7=1.0000uID0=1007612uID1=554685uID2=466532uID3=94881uID4=2130911414uID5=2130912792uID6=2130911410uID7=2130911413 [Clouds]fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000 [Controls]bAlwaysRunByDefault=1bGamePadRumble=1bInvertYValues=0bUseKinect=0fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0494 [Decals]uMaxDecals=200 [Display]bDeferredShadows=1bDrawLandShadows=1bDrawShadows=1bFloatPointRenderTarget=1bFull Screen=1bFXAAEnabled=0bMainZPrepass=0bShadowMaskZPrepass=0bShadowsOnGrass=1bTransparencyMultisampling=0bTreesReceiveShadows=1fDecalLOD1=1000fDecalLOD2=1500fGamma=1.0000fInteriorShadowDistance=3000fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600fLightLODStartFade=3750fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10240fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=8960fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=7680fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=5376fShadowBiasScale=1.00fShadowDistance=4000fShadowLODStartFade=200fSpecularLODStartFade=2000fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=8960iBlurDeferredShadowMask=4iMaxAnisotropy=0iMaxDecalsPerFrame=120iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=50iMultiSample=0iScreenShotIndex=2iShadowFilter=3iShadowMapResolution=2048iShadowMaskQuarter=4iShadowMode=3iSize H=1050iSize W=1680iTexMipMapMinimum=1iTexMipMapSkip=0iWaterMultiSamples=0sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti" [GamePlay]bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1bShowQuestMarkers=1iDifficulty=2 [General]bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1 [Grass]b30GrassVS=0fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=6500fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0fGrassStartFadeDistance=2500 [imagespace]bDoDepthOfField=1 [interface]bDialogueSubtitles=0bGeneralSubtitles=0bShowCompass=1fMouseCursorSpeed=1.00 [Launcher]bEnableFileSelection=1bShowAllResolutions=1uLastAspectRatio=4 [LOD]fLODFadeOutMultActors=6.0fLODFadeOutMultItems=5.0fLODFadeOutMultObjects=12.0fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1 [MAIN]bCrosshairEnabled=1bGamepadEnable=1bSaveOnPause=1bSaveOnRest=1bSaveOnTravel=1bSaveOnWait=1fHUDOpacity=1.0000fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=600000 [Particles]iMaxDesired=2000 [saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000 [TerrainManager]bShowLODInEditor=0fBlockLevel0Distance=32500fBlockLevel1Distance=47000fBlockMaximumDistance=94000fSplitDistanceMult=1.100fTreeLoadDistance=40960 [Trees]bRenderSkinnedTrees=1uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=120 [Water]bReflectSky=1bUseWaterDepth=1bUseWaterDisplacements=1bUseWaterReflections=1bUseWaterRefractions=1iWaterReflectHeight=1024iWaterReflectWidth=1024 enblocal.ini [PROXY]EnableProxyLibrary=falseInitProxyFunctions=trueProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll [GLOBAL]UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=falseUseDefferedRendering=trueIgnoreCreationKit=true [PERFORMANCE]SpeedHack=trueEnableOcclusionCulling=true [MEMORY]ExpandSystemMemoryX64=trueReduceSystemMemoryUsage=trueDisableDriverMemoryManager=falseDisablePreloadToVRAM=falseEnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=falseReservedMemorySizeMb=512VideoMemorySizeMb=8064EnableCompression=trueAutodetectVideoMemorySize=false [THREADS]DataSyncMode=0PriorityMode=0EnableUnsafeFixes=false [MULTIHEAD]ForceVideoAdapterIndex=falseVideoAdapterIndex=0 [WINDOW]ForceBorderless=falseForceBorderlessFullscreen=false [ENGINE]ForceAnisotropicFiltering=trueMaxAnisotropy=16ForceLodBias=falseLodBias=0.0AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=falseEnableVSync=trueVSyncSkipNumFrames=0 [LIMITER]WaitBusyRenderer=falseEnableFPSLimit=falseFPSLimit=10.0 [iNPUT]//shiftKeyCombination=16//f12KeyUseEffect=123//homeKeyFPSLimit=36//num / 106KeyShowFPS=106//print screenKeyScreenshot=44//enterKeyEditor=13//f4KeyFreeVRAM=115//BKeyBruteForce=66KeyDepthOfField=118 [ADAPTIVEQUALITY]Enable=falseQuality=1DesiredFPS=20.0 [ANTIALIASING]EnableEdgeAA=falseEnableTemporalAA=falseEnableSubPixelAA=false [FIX]FixGameBugs=trueFixParallaxBugs=trueFixParallaxTerrain=falseFixAliasedTextures=falseIgnoreInventory=trueFixTintGamma=falseRemoveBlur=falseFixSubSurfaceScattering=trueFixSkyReflection=trueFixCursorVisibility=trueFixLag=false [LONGEXPOSURE]EnableLongExposureMode=falseTime=1.0BlendMax=0.0 Load Order skyrimdawnguardhearthfiredragonbornUSLEPhigh res pack 1high res pack 2high res pack 3UHRPSKSESkyUIAlternate start. So it seems to work fine WITHOUT an ENB. However ideally I need to get an ENB installed. Baffled is not the word... Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippboss Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Yes you will need an ENB but just for the binaries for ENBoost. Lets try getting that working consider it a half way house if you will.Make sure of the following :- Skyrim.ini [Display]iPresentinertval=0 Skyrimprefs.ini[Display]bfloatpointrendertarget=0 Enblocal.ini [PROXY]EnableProxyLibrary=falseInitProxyFunctions=true <--set this one to false apparently these two settings must match so if you are using a Sweetfx preset along with an ENB they should both be set to true otherwise set them false. [Global]UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false <--enboost switch [LIMITER]WaitBusyRenderer=falseEnableFPSLimit=false <-- fps Limit switchFPSLimit=10.0 <--We just turned off Vsync in skyrim ini's so lets limit FPS here 60 max. Yes your machine can handle more but Skyrim has some serious physics problems when the FPS goes too high. I actually make sure by setting mine to 59. Its one way of doing the job.Now fire up Skyrim an see if It runs at all. Then try some different combinations of the 3 important settings. An enb with your ini's as they are setup in your last post are as far as I can tell correct for normal ENB functionality. It should run.I been looking for this for yahttps://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73618I'm rather baffled too now. Something doesn't obviously sit well with an ENB in Skyrim but why? We missing something! That something will be obvious when its been found an we'll both feel rather silly for missing it.So to recap object for now is to try an get ENboost running (our halfway house) Edited January 19, 2018 by Pippboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Bet you're getting sick of this LOL. Cheers, and I'll check these out later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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