HeyYou Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I actually believe that assisted/legal suicide SHOULD be an option. I have MS, so, my quality of life is highly likely to take a serious nose dive at some point in my future. (doing pretty good right now.) Eventually, there is going to come a time when I won't be able to get around on my own, and will need someone to take care of me/change my diapers, etc. At that point, I would just as soon NOT be around to see it. Having the LEGAL option of ending my own life would be rather nice. (though, even if it ain't legal, when it comes to that, I will likely find a way in any event.) I mean, seriously, we are kinder to our pets, than we are to our human relatives..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmaccurzerO Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) Comunism is evil, Marxism is evil. I have lived in two comunist countries and I have lived in my own flesh what Communism has to give: hungry, represion, a complete control o state over any single aspect of your life, zero freedom of speech, zero respect to private property, zero respect to life (mainly disident lives), zero respect to individual liberties and so on. So, dont come to me with fairy stories about comunism and the argument of: that wasnt real comunism. Communism and Marxism in theory are a lie, in real life are evil. Every time you try to implement it in any country, it will fail and will end the same way. In my opinion, comunism and marxism are bad words and should banned for life in any school and in any country. And people (mainly young minds) who thinks Communism is beautiful, is because they dont have lived in a communist country and dont know nothing about it, I have. They are being deceived and that is bad. Instead they should be teaching them the truht about it. I apologize for being so sensitive about this theme. This is only my opinion based in my own experiences. Edited May 28, 2019 by AmaccurzerO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Comunism is evil, Marxism is evil. I have lived in two comunist countries and I have lived in my own flesh what Communism has to give: hungry, represion, a complete control o state over any single aspect of your life, zero freedom of speech, zero respect to private property, zero respect to life (mainly disident lives), zero respect to individual liberties and so on. So, dont come to me with fairy stories about comunism and the argument of: that wasnt real comunism. Communism and Marxism in theory are a lie, in real life are evil. Every time you try to implement it in any country, it will fail and will end the same way. In my opinion, comunism and marxism are bad words and should banned for life in any school and in any country. And people (mainly young minds) who thinks Communism is beautiful, is because they dont have lived in a communist country and dont know nothing about it, I have. They are being deceived and that is bad. Instead they should be teaching them the truht about it. I apologize for being so sensitive about this theme. This is only my opinion based in my own experiences. Our schools seem to have issues with figuring out just what the 'truth' is...... and it varies from school to school. For the most part though, they like to call it 'socialism', not communism, as that has less negative connotations....... And you are correct, the folks espousing communism/socialism as a 'better way of life', have never lived in a communist/socialist country...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted67195711User Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Comunism is evil, Marxism is evil. I have lived in two comunist countries and I have lived in my own flesh what Communism has to give: hungry, represion, a complete control o state over any single aspect of your life, zero freedom of speech, zero respect to private property, zero respect to life (mainly disident lives), zero respect to individual liberties and so on. So, dont come to me with fairy stories about comunism and the argument of: that wasnt real comunism. Communism and Marxism in theory are a lie, in real life are evil. Every time you try to implement it in any country, it will fail and will end the same way. In my opinion, comunism and marxism are bad words and should banned for life in any country and in any school. And people (mainly young minds) who thinks Communism is beautiful, is because they dont have lived in a communist country and dont know nothing about it, I have. They are being deceived and that is bad. Instead they should be teaching them the truht about it. I apologize for being so sensitive about this theme. This is only my opinion based in my own experiences. I do not wish to diminish you experience and you have my sympathies. However, I agree with you and think you might be too close to the question to be objective. Communism is an economic and social theory and not a political theory. Communism is based on the Marxian principle, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need". Several groups have formed successful communes in the Americans, Europe, the Middle East and Australia, all which practice a communal or communist lifestyle. Just look as some other words related to communism; communal, community, commune, common, commonality. Or the phrase "We the people" from the preamble to The Constitution of The United States of America, a communal phrase, a communist phrase. What you describe are authoritarian governments which claim to follow a communist economic strategy but which forces its citizenship to live under certain non-communist behavior patterns. The premise of "authoritarian communism" is that everything everyone produces belongs to the state. Thus, everyone works for the state and is subject to the whims of the state. The State controls both the means of production and the producers. In this political system, producers are used as expendable cogs in the machine of government and creates the symptoms you so eloquently describe. By definition, "authoritarian communism" is not communism at all, but socialism. And the implementation of socialism by the Soviet Union and Russia was a very brutal form of socialism. In reality, it is not 'communism' which is the bad word. The bad word is 'authoritarian'. 'Communism', as used today; is just a linguistic shortcut for "Authoritarian Communism" which was introduced following WWII and propagated by the likes of Joseph McCarthy and his witch hunt for "Communist sympathizers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted67195711User Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Comunism is evil, Marxism is evil. I have lived in two comunist countries and I have lived in my own flesh what Communism has to give: hungry, represion, a complete control o state over any single aspect of your life, zero freedom of speech, zero respect to private property, zero respect to life (mainly disident lives), zero respect to individual liberties and so on. So, dont come to me with fairy stories about comunism and the argument of: that wasnt real comunism. Communism and Marxism in theory are a lie, in real life are evil. Every time you try to implement it in any country, it will fail and will end the same way. In my opinion, comunism and marxism are bad words and should banned for life in any school and in any country. And people (mainly young minds) who thinks Communism is beautiful, is because they dont have lived in a communist country and dont know nothing about it, I have. They are being deceived and that is bad. Instead they should be teaching them the truht about it. I apologize for being so sensitive about this theme. This is only my opinion based in my own experiences. Our schools seem to have issues with figuring out just what the 'truth' is...... and it varies from school to school. For the most part though, they like to call it 'socialism', not communism, as that has less negative connotations....... And you are correct, the folks espousing communism/socialism as a 'better way of life', have never lived in a communist/socialist country...... The school I went to, and every book I have ever read states quite clearly that communism and socialism are different. Socialism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism - any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods Communism: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism - a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed And socialism is worse than communism, as socialism (by definition) puts the power and control over resources into the hands of a central authority. Communism puts the control of resources into the hands of the community. And like the majority of the uninformed and poorly educated, you are using the word "communism" for what is actually "authoritarianism communism" or socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbringe Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I do not wish to diminish you experience and you have my sympathies. However, I agree with you and think you might be too close to the question to be objective. How about your too distant from the experience of what its like to live under a communist state to even know what your talking about. Seems far more probable compared to someone who has actually lived under a communist state twice in their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivionaddicted Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) "Communism" is oftenly considered something negative because many persons mistake it with marxism-leninism and don't understand democracy is based on the separation of powers and not at all according to the degree of intervention the state has in the economy. No dictator never made any coup d'état nor eliminated any opponent by creating a welfare state or nationalizing a company. As long as the state is leaded by human beings who are sure to be denunced and punished if they trample people's rights where's the risk of dictatorship if all the companies become nationalized? The employers are the profession where the proportion of psychopaths is the highest, these persons want to concentrate all the powers in their company like Hitler or Stalin so people need a counter power to protect them. Edited May 29, 2019 by Oblivionaddicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted67195711User Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I do not wish to diminish you experience and you have my sympathies. However, I agree with you and think you might be too close to the question to be objective. How about your too distant from the experience of what its like to live under a communist state to even know what your talking about. Seems far more probable compared to someone who has actually lived under a communist state twice in their lives. The perfect example of an emotional argument versus an intellectual discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbringe Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I do not wish to diminish you experience and you have my sympathies. However, I agree with you and think you might be too close to the question to be objective. How about your too distant from the experience of what its like to live under a communist state to even know what your talking about. Seems far more probable compared to someone who has actually lived under a communist state twice in their lives. The perfect example of an emotional argument versus an intellectual discussion. And you are an example of how you miss the obvious and merely deflect the obvious point as a defense mechanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted67195711User Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I do not wish to diminish you experience and you have my sympathies. However, I agree with you and think you might be too close to the question to be objective. How about your too distant from the experience of what its like to live under a communist state to even know what your talking about. Seems far more probable compared to someone who has actually lived under a communist state twice in their lives. The perfect example of an emotional argument versus an intellectual discussion. And you are an example of how you miss the obvious and merely deflect the obvious point as a defense mechanism. Right. < chop > I apologize for being so sensitive about this theme. This is only my opinion based in my own experiences. So this was just bait and switch. You weren't really apologetic, you were just waiting for someone to agree with you so you could turn on them. Stupid me, I thought you were being honest and introspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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