New World Order Theory

[grannywils]

Nintii, I'm your friend so I hope I can say this without offending you...

 

I think your above post was meant as an April Fools joke. If so, following is my response.

 

1. It was a bit lame.

2. It was a tad in poor taste (hoods and robes in the White House, etal.)

3. It was way beneath you, as you are capable of so much better.

4. And worst of all in my opinion, it was not even funny.... :confused:

 

However, I still love you and am sure that you meant it in good fun.

 

Because it's you, no offense taken but perhaps if you google "George Bush Snr in a hoody" then you should find this link .... George Bush Snr in a hoody ... this photograph was taken by his daughter Doro Bush Koch ... and you will find his daughter's

comment in amongst the rest of the writer's article ... so it's pretty legit.

It was supposed to be a follow on between HeyYou and Aurielius ... a joke, but anyhow, for what it's worth here's a quote from the article;

 

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On to the subject at hand: hoodies. George Bush senior, freemason occultist and skull and bones member, wore hoodies in the White House while he was president.

 

Doro Bush Koch, daughter of George and Barbara Bush, wrote a book in 2006 titled "My Father, My President: A Personal Account of the Life of George H. W. Bush". You can buy a copy of Bush's book for one penny on Amazon! In her book, she includes many photos of Bush senior and the family. In one of the photos, Bush sits lurched in a chair wearing a full hoodie wizard-type outfit.

 

Doro's caption for the hoodie photo reads "Dad jokes with his staff by wearing a hooded robe during a daily intelligence briefing in 1990". Above the photo of Bush in a hoodie is a picture of him with his Vice President Dan Quayle.

An image search for hooded robe occult will reveal countless photos identical to the type of outfit that Bush senior wore. There is a David Dees Illustration parody of Bush at Bohemian Grove below that looks eerily similar to the real-life photo of Bush at the White House in his hoodie wizard outfit.

 

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Please note that I did not post the David Dees parody image in the article ... the reason being that it was a parody and not the real thing and the real thing to me was more of a

joke than the ridiculous parody.

Hope I'm still invited for tea :biggrin:

 

 

 

You are certainly still invited for tea, or something stronger if you like... I have further researched the link you sent, and have to say I'm still not terribly impressed. However, thanks for sending it. I feel I tiny bit better that at least you had obtained it from a quasi-legitimate source. However, my opinion still remains more or less the same. But let's party on, hon!!! :tongue:

[SubjectProphet]

I get the feeling this is going offtopic. Please, stay on topic.

[Nintii]

LOL ... is that it ?

 

Why not jump in at this point and offer some new material, some new angle to the NWO ... like Article 29 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

 

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Article 29

Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

 

end quote.

 

So if they say you're wrong, then you're wrong doesn't matter where you come from ... what if that's enforced in a "One World Government" ?

Edited April 2, 2012 by Nintii

[SubjectProphet]

I only read what everyone posts, my OP is all the material I'll provide. But I will say this:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

 

Just read that. And if you have too, copy and paste, this phone won't let me click "link."

[Nintii]

I only read what everyone posts, my OP is all the material I'll provide. But I will say this:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

 

Just read that. And if you have too, copy and paste, this phone won't let me click "link."

 

Ok, so I did follow your links and it's pretty much what I'm familiar with ... Council of Foreign Relation, the Bilderburgers etc ... I've done a lot of research into this as well and had a boyfriend who was involved in Freemasonry etc.

 

I'm pretty much aware of the Illuminati, the Rosicrucians, The Templars, Eastern Star and so on.

I've been involved with a few esoteric groups etc. ... I'll only mention one, that of Dianic Witchcraft (if I told you more I'd have to kill you :biggrin:) ... so I know the rites of

passage and how it's so familiar with Freemasonry and blah blah blah.

I'm also familiar with the 666 chip etc etc.

 

It was the UN and it's Article 29 that caught my attention ... really scary, and it should be to any US citizen including other nations as it will seriously put a big red stop

sign to your freedom.

Edited April 3, 2012 by Nintii

[Ghogiel]

Article 29? what this one.. http://www.un.org/disabilities/default.asp?id=289

 

Or article 29 in this: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

 

I think I am missing the scary parts here.

 

 

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[Nintii]

Article 29? what this one.. http://www.un.org/disabilities/default.asp?id=289

 

Or article 29 in this: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

 

I think I am missing the scary parts here.

 

 

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The Article 29 would be your second link ... it's quoted in my post No. 23

 

Ok, so here is the problem with this specific Article:

 

Article 29 can cause trouble. It states, "Everyone has duties to the community." Such vague language can lead government to interpret it in a way that forces people to pay taxes, obey restrictive laws, or join the military as a duty. Such vague language should be avoided in any declaration of rights, which should instead specifically tell us what our rights are.

 

Article 29 also says that people may be subjected to limitations for meeting the "requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare." Here again, the Declaration

creates a loophole for justifying oppression in the name of morality, order, and welfare.

 

Now in the context of a New World Order - One World Government ... you can see where this is going.

Edited April 3, 2012 by Nintii

[Ghogiel]

Article 29 can cause trouble. It states, "Everyone has duties to the community." Such vague language can lead government to interpret it in a way that forces people to pay taxes, obey restrictive laws, or join the military as a duty. Such vague language should be avoided in any declaration of rights, which should instead specifically tell us what our rights are.

You misuse punctuation in that quote. There is no period after community. the full sentence is "(1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible."

 

You probably have certain duties as a citizen of your country as is, and perhaps that doesn't even respect full development of your personality. I can think of some places that full development of personality is heavily biased against. One such 'right' has been in the media far too much as of late being a non issue imo> gay rights. some places it's still a crime lol.

 

 

 

Article 29 also says that people may be subjected to limitations for meeting the "requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare." Here again, the Declaration

creates a loophole for justifying oppression in the name of morality, order, and welfare.

Yeah that ol' full stop again. But really I think you missed the point of (2) entirely. imo it is stressing that the extent of Law a country might exert over ones personal freedom of expression should only extend so far as limit you from infringing on other peoples freedom of expression. It is note worthy it mentions morality though. It doesn't really justify oppression ever, because the Laws should be restricted to only limiting your freedom of expression when it harms or infringes other peoples freedom. Following on from that, reading (3) closes further any loop hole you would like to find for justifying oppression.

 

then following on from that you read article 30: "Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein."

Edited April 3, 2012 by Ghogiel

[marharth]

I am still a bit confused why people think the Illuminati was bad. Anyone care to explain?

 

The Illuminati stood for good things as I said before. They believed in overturning monarchies and state religion due to the corruption and issues they had. They did not believe in being evil masters of the world. They believed in perfecting humanity through education, and hopefully removing all need for government with time. That is the exact opposite of what people say they are.

 

So where exactly does this idea come from? Do people misinterpret the goal of "overturning bad governments" into "we are going to be evil and rule the world?"

[SubjectProphet]

I am still a bit confused why people think the Illuminati was bad. Anyone care to explain?

 

The Illuminati stood for good things as I said before. They believed in overturning monarchies and state religion due to the corruption and issues they had. They did not believe in being evil masters of the world. They believed in perfecting humanity through education, and hopefully removing all need for government with time. That is the exact opposite of what people say they are.

 

So where exactly does this idea come from? Do people misinterpret the goal of "overturning bad governments" into "we are going to be evil and rule the world?"

 

Apparently, the Illuminati had plans to on the good side of everyone's list, and then turn on them by taking charge and using population control to keep everyone in check.