Chishiokage Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'll put it simply, this kind of stuff made Giskard leave the scene. That's enough of a reason to be upset by it. ROTFL....he had his own self generated issues. So much so that on Bethsada , Nexus and TES Alliance.. where even bringing up his name will get you a polite warning. Worst example possible and he didn't leave the scene, he created his own private fiefdom where he rules and brooks no dissent. A legend in his own mind. Wow, didn't know that. I'd only talked to him after he left so I suppose I only heard his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'll put it simply, this kind of stuff made Giskard leave the scene. That's enough of a reason to be upset by it. ROTFL....he had his own self generated issues. So much so that on Bethsada , Nexus and TES Alliance.. where even bringing up his name will get you a polite warning. Worst example possible and he didn't leave the scene, he created his own private fiefdom where he rules and brooks no dissent. A legend in his own mind. Wow, didn't know that. I'd only talked to him after he left so I suppose I only heard his side. Yeah, and he does not represent actual events well....... Only listening to one side of the story will unfailingly give you a false picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chishiokage Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) I'll put it simply, this kind of stuff made Giskard leave the scene. That's enough of a reason to be upset by it. ROTFL....he had his own self generated issues. So much so that on Bethsada , Nexus and TES Alliance.. where even bringing up his name will get you a polite warning. Worst example possible and he didn't leave the scene, he created his own private fiefdom where he rules and brooks no dissent. A legend in his own mind. Wow, didn't know that. I'd only talked to him after he left so I suppose I only heard his side. Yeah, and he does not represent actual events well....... Only listening to one side of the story will unfailingly give you a false picture. Well, I never had reason to seek another side. All I heard was trolling and didn't really care to dig into it. I assumed some downloaders were nagging him about fixes or something to the point that he quit. I didn't know it was a huge thing that went higher than the fans. That being said I still like his work, but I like Nexus more. If he created turbulence on an otherwise chill site (the fact that a single modder could do that is a shock in itself) then I suppose he deserved the boot. Either way it's got nothing to do with me, and being a hotbutton issue it seems something better left dropped and forgotten. Edited April 26, 2012 by Chishiokage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'll put it simply, this kind of stuff made Giskard leave the scene. That's enough of a reason to be upset by it. ROTFL....he had his own self generated issues. So much so that on Bethsada , Nexus and TES Alliance.. where even bringing up his name will get you a polite warning. Worst example possible and he didn't leave the scene, he created his own private fiefdom where he rules and brooks no dissent. A legend in his own mind. Wow, didn't know that. I'd only talked to him after he left so I suppose I only heard his side. Yeah, and he does not represent actual events well....... Only listening to one side of the story will unfailingly give you a false picture. Well, I never had reason to seek another side. All I heard was trolling and didn't really care to dig into it. I assumed some downloaders were nagging him about fixes or something to the point that he quit. I didn't know it was a huge thing that went higher than the fans. That being said I still like his work, but I like Nexus more. If he created turbulence on an otherwise chill site (the fact that a single modder could do that is a shock in itself) then I suppose he deserved the boot. Either way it's got nothing to do with me, and being a hotbutton issue it seems something better left dropped and forgotten. Oh yeah, he did do some really great work. No argument there. :D I ran several of his mods for quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chishiokage Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'll put it simply, this kind of stuff made Giskard leave the scene. That's enough of a reason to be upset by it. ROTFL....he had his own self generated issues. So much so that on Bethsada , Nexus and TES Alliance.. where even bringing up his name will get you a polite warning. Worst example possible and he didn't leave the scene, he created his own private fiefdom where he rules and brooks no dissent. A legend in his own mind. Wow, didn't know that. I'd only talked to him after he left so I suppose I only heard his side. Yeah, and he does not represent actual events well....... Only listening to one side of the story will unfailingly give you a false picture. Well, I never had reason to seek another side. All I heard was trolling and didn't really care to dig into it. I assumed some downloaders were nagging him about fixes or something to the point that he quit. I didn't know it was a huge thing that went higher than the fans. That being said I still like his work, but I like Nexus more. If he created turbulence on an otherwise chill site (the fact that a single modder could do that is a shock in itself) then I suppose he deserved the boot. Either way it's got nothing to do with me, and being a hotbutton issue it seems something better left dropped and forgotten. Oh yeah, he did do some really great work. No argument there. :D I ran several of his mods for quite a while. It's sad to admire work only to find out the creator of it was not the benevolent person you thought they were. Oh well. Like I said, seems like an issue that no one wants brought up on the site, so we should probably drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzerfong Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 @ Everyone: Who exactly is Giskard? Well, in most cases, it's simply an issue of ego, really: one good example is the creator of that Book of Earache mod, forgot his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRampage Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Well, in most cases, it's simply an issue of ego, really: one good example is the creator of that Book of Earache mod, forgot his name.Earache42 of course. Though that is, in my opinion, actually a really bad example of a too large ego. His ban was one of the most controversial ones ever around here though. Which is why Dark0ne made a report on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzerfong Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Well, in the end, it's a matter of the modder's emotional strength: some cope it better than others. I personally don't mind suggestions (in fact, sometimes I love them, and demand them :)), but for outright outrageous comments (one member on another site called me 'arrogant' for releasing the mod), it really befuddles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 @ Everyone: Who exactly is Giskard? Well, in most cases, it's simply an issue of ego, really: one good example is the creator of that Book of Earache mod, forgot his name. Giskard was a modder of some talent that had trouble with interpersonal relations....... There was a LOT of drama surrounding him, his mods, and there were some events here on nexus when he supposedly handed off responsibility for them to others from his team.... that caused all sorts of trouble. I don't know if any of that still survives somewhere around here, it's been a while, so, I rather doubt it. Needless to say, that was a VERY controversial/touchy subject.... to the point that discussion thereof in public really isn't a good idea. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yes I was going to say, it's all very well saying that modders should toughen up and all that, but it isn't that simple. Losing your temper with a troll and hitting back at them could lead to the modder themselves using intemperate language/attitude, that breaks forum rules, and then both the modder and the troll will get banned. The report button is the way to go. I can confirm what Aurelius and HeyYou say about a certain person.... Seriously, one of the most frequent kinds of trolling I see is frequently under the guise of lore nerdism...usually directed at skimpy armour mods and maintaining that tin can armour is more "realistic" (actually historical fact suggests that the tin can stuff was only ever used in the tiltyard but anyway...) Lisnpuppy has already said as much, if they don't like it, why are they looking? (The only answer is trolling...). Oh and there are frequently eruptions of it when a beauty mod comes out. Don't get me wrong, there are mods that I really do not like and have reservations about. But what I do is the proper thing, which is to keep it out of the mod comments and report any legitimate concerns to the staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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