Fix the fix

[Zephkel]

Hey there!

 

I just began playing FO3:NV.

 

Enjoying it so far (i find the DT to be a quite dumb mechanic tho), and with every fallout game i played, i always use mods to fix the games (and nothing else).

 

I cam across this mod :

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45362/?tab=description

 

I also came across another mod that was just fixing the Grunt perk, and i noticed in the readme that all the weapons are not covered, it lack, on the grunt perk, the red victory and great bear grenade rifles. ((long story short i downloaded fix for this perks and it conflicted))

I also noticed that the sturdy caravan shotgun is not on the stay back perk list, too. (long story short i downloaded fix for this perks and it conflicted).

On the comments, an user (drakkar123) also said "But I've also noticed a few items are still missing from various form lists, and it hasn't had any updates for 6 years now, so I'm not sure if it is still maintained. For example the GRA Tri-Beam Laser Rifle appears to be missing from the Laser Commander Form list, as are the recharger weapons, both normal and unique, and a couple of other items are missing from various other lists as well."

Another used said that "pacienca" is missing from commander too

 

So, here i am, can someone put those weapons in this mod?

 

TL;DR : edit the aforementionned mod (Perk fixes @ https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45362/?tab=description ) with :

- the red victory and great bear grenade rifles on the grunt perk

- GRA Tri-Beam Laser Rifle + recharger weapons (normals and uniques) to the laser commander perk

- Sturdy Caravan Shotgun to the Stay back perk

- Paciencia to the commander perk

- + any missing weapon if you come across them

 

 

Many, many, MANY thanks!

Edited April 28, 2018 by Zephkel

[M48A5]

Did you see this " Now part of hairylegs222\'s mod NVEC http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=44204" in the description?

 

Changes to the mod can only be done by the original mod author or with the mod author's permission.

Edited April 28, 2018 by M48A5

[Zephkel]

The link that is provided is dead and the mod not maintened anymore, unless you think that 6 years is still not enough :sad:

 

If it satisfy you more, just create a mod and put everything in it under another name, it's not a strange notion around here.

Or just a mod with all the fix, i dunno, it's not like a really care how it's done, buit the result, do not be stuck on wording.

 

I would also be of use globally for all the playerbase...

Edited April 28, 2018 by Zephkel

[madmongo]

Every mod is copyrighted just by its creation. If you can't track down the mod author and get permission to modify it, the copyright doesn't expire until after the life of the author plus 70 years. You need to wait a lot longer than 6 years.

[M48A5]

The link that is provided is dead and the mod not maintened anymore, unless you think that 6 years is still not enough :sad:

 

So, the link is broken, then do a search.

 

At the top of every page in the mod forums is a search function and it works very well.

 

As for the age of the mod, it is still newer than the game.

 

Also, what you are suggesting is called theft of assets and would result in a ban from the Nexus.

[Zephkel]

I'm not suggesting anything, i want a mod with everything fixed at once to prevent conflict, as simple as that.

I'm not a modder (so i'm not really aware of thoise conception bias) so you would have guessed, since you're so smart about unrelated thing, that in reality i was asking for something, and the method is up to anyone to figure.

Also NVCE is not...that good, some "fixes" in it are silly or are downright not a fix.

 

Nevermind anyway, i didnt suspect such nitpickery, you're really a tedious guy, playing on word more than anything :/. Like contributing would hurt you.

Edited April 30, 2018 by Zephkel

[oscarvdhooft]

I'm pretty sure Paciencia does work with Commander considering Commander relies on animation types instead of form lists. Doesn't the unofficial patch fix the perks already?

 

EDIT: When I have the time for it (and I don't forget it, I'll see if I can fix these things)

Edited April 30, 2018 by oscarvdhooft

[Mktavish]

Well I would suggest to study up on Perks / Entry Points / Conditions. Then just add your own condition (lists or weapon ID's ) there. And it should work right along side other plugin files because those are all perks found in the DLC masters. Just have yours load after the plugins that contain the new weapons. Not really that hard and you can tailor it to what you want , instead of someone guessing for you. Or getting in trouble by changing and publishing someone elses work.

 

But ya maybe someone will take the time to specifically do it only for you. Although it helps not to get snippy about it ;)

[Zephkel]

I'm pretty sure Paciencia does work with Commander considering Commander relies on animation types instead of form lists. Doesn't the unofficial patch fix the perks already?

 

EDIT: When I have the time for it (and I don't forget it, I'll see if I can fix these things)

Tbh, i'm more interested in the grunt / and stay back fixes, the other are cherry on top. But since i've noticed those missing, i thought i might aswell share them (i don't play in VATS), for others people that might use it. But i could also be wrong, i'm far from being knowledgeable.

YUP fix quite the things, but unless i'm mistaken, it doesn't fix all, like for grunt it doesn't take all the dlc's into account.

 

Thank you kind sir

 

 

Well I would suggest to study up on Perks / Entry Points / Conditions. Then just add your own condition (lists or weapon ID's ) there. And it should work right along side other plugin files because those are all perks found in the DLC masters. Just have yours load after the plugins that contain the new weapons. Not really that hard and you can tailor it to what you want , instead of someone guessing for you. Or getting in trouble by changing and publishing someone elses work.

 

But ya maybe someone will take the time to specifically do it only for you. Although it helps not to get snippy about it :wink:

I hear ya but i don't like having someone totally derailing the thread and being more "guilty unless proven otherwise". I was in good faith.

I don't think i can be the only one wanting an experience the closest possible from what was intended, and playing only with fixes (and QoL to some extent), like what YUP offers.

Also that's what i've began to do (studying what you've said).

 

Thanks.

Edited April 30, 2018 by Zephkel

[Mktavish]

Well try that geck study some mo ... and you won't have to post in the request section :geek: