The TSA

[JimboUK]

The mother in law sold her property in Florida and has vowed never to set foot in the U.S again after being poked about by one of those goons.

[Aurielius]

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5448/airlinesecuritygroping.jpg

[Syco21]

Ummm, no one is asking for this?

You are not asking for it directly, but it is the job of the TSA to tighten security if people perceive a large threat.

 

It would probably get a lot better if everyone quit freaking out over something that happened over 10 years ago.

You're wrong, though. No one is freaking out about anything, hatred for the TSA is pretty damned close to universal. The only ones asking for this s*** are the politicians. The only thing Americans are guilty of, is allowing it to happen. Once again, I point to Texas as an example.

 

http://blog.mysanant...pecial-session/

 

Other states have tried similar bills, but since Texas was bullied out of it, those bills pretty much stall out and crash.

[SubjectProphet]

no one ever dared to invade the US

Except Canada.

 

And Mexico. And Japan. And everything everyone else has mentioned. :whistling:

 

 

Anyway, on topic here, it's great to take secruity measures in case of terrorist attacks, but this is rediculous. Anyone see that news report back in 2009 (or 2008) where they were going to pat down a little 6 year old girl? She didn't wan that, but oh of course the father forced her to and the gateguard decided it would be "nice" to take an x-ray to see under her clothes. Typical pervert job.

 

They search me everytime I go to an airport, even if I provide clearence I'm a marine, they still think I may be a terrorist. Heavily offensive to see my body without any clothes on a picture that many other people may take a peak at. I wish I could drive over the ocean, wouldn't have to take these crap procedures. >.> <.<

 

 

And @Syco21 I don't remember getting a say in this as a US registered civillian and military personel. I didn't get a vote in anything. Unless I missed the whole "vote for this crap!" thing, I don't think we got a say in anything.

[HeyYou]

Japan attacked us, but, didn't really invade.... no ground troops involved. (which is how I view an "invasion")

 

The TSA doesn't do anything useful. Just another government money sink, where someone's buddies got a cushy job, and don't really have to show any results.

[bben46]

I travel for a living and hate the TSA as the absolutely worst thing the government has stuck the public in this country with. If you fly, you have no choice but to put up with their petty BS. If you complain their response is to put you on a no fly list. Then they claim that hardly anyone complains. :wallbash:

 

This is by far the largest government fiasco yet. NOBODY voted for this NOBODY wanted it. The politicians who DON"T have to put up with this trash stuck us with it. I felt safer flying before TSA, and so do many of the other professional travelers I know. You actually have a better chance of winning the lottery than of being hurt in a terrorist attack on an airplane.

 

The TSA have NEVER caught a terrorist. And they brag that it's because they are doing their job. Meanwhile, the traveling public - they people who they are supposed to protect have caught several for them.

 

The underware bomber was caught by a passenger. The shoe bomber was caught by a passenger. And there are others. One report claims that around 30% of what the TSA calls 'dangerous weapons' are missed by their incompetence. :rolleyes: BTW Just what constitutes a 'non' dangerous weapon? Isn't being dangerous part of the definition of weapon?

[Syco21]

Japan attacked us, but, didn't really invade.... no ground troops involved. (which is how I view an "invasion")

 

The TSA doesn't do anything useful. Just another government money sink, where someone's buddies got a cushy job, and don't really have to show any results.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands_Campaign

 

@Marharth: as you can see, Americans don't like this crap, sure there's some bed wetting pansies and voyeurs that love it. But most of us? We'd tar and feather the whole lot if we could.

[HeyYou]

Japan attacked us, but, didn't really invade.... no ground troops involved. (which is how I view an "invasion")

 

The TSA doesn't do anything useful. Just another government money sink, where someone's buddies got a cushy job, and don't really have to show any results.

http://en.wikipedia....slands_Campaign

 

@Marharth: as you can see, Americans don't like this crap, sure there's some bed wetting pansies and voyeurs that love it. But most of us? We'd tar and feather the whole lot if we could.

 

Well, guess they don't call it the "Forgotten Battle" for nothin' eh? :D

 

Thanks for the education.

[Aurielius]

If anyone has ever flown El Al which has a far far better track record of air flight security than any other airline , they rely on specialized observation of passengers and questionnaires prior to boarding. It is interesting that instead of emulating procedures that have a 100% track record of success we choose the TSA path.

 

"Passengers are asked to report three hours before departure. All El Al terminals around the worldare closely monitored for security. There are plain-clothes agents and fully armed police or military personnel patrolling the premises for explosives, suspicious behavior, and other threats. Inside the terminal, passengers and their baggage are checked by a trained team. El Al security procedures require that all passengers be interviewed individually prior to boarding, allowing El Al staff to identify possible security threats. Passengers will be asked questions about where they are coming from, the reason for their trip, their job or occupation, and whether they have packed their bags themselves. The likelihood of potential terrorists remaining calm under such questioning is believed to be low

 

At the check-in counter, passengers' passports and tickets are closely examined. A ticket without a sticker from the security checkers will not be accepted. At passport control passengers' names are checked against information from the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Scotland Yard, Shin Bet, and Interpol databases. Luggage is screened and sometimes hand searched. In addition, bags are put through a decompression chamber simulating pressures during flight that could trigger explosives. El Al is the only airline in the world that passes all luggage through such a chamber. Even at overseas airports, El Al security agents conduct all luggage searches personally, even if they are supervised by government or private security firms."

Edited May 27, 2012 by Aurielius

[Syco21]

That's all well and good, but I'd rather not subject myself to interrogation just to travel.

 

There. Is. No. Threat. No threat, no need for additional security. Bomb sniffers and metal detectors are all that's needed. And honestly? If it were upto me, I'd allow passengers to carry their sidearms, loaded, in a holster, onto the plane. Crazy thought eh, but we did it before and flying was a hell of a lot safer then.