TheGadget1945 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 However, there's still FEV, which is basically magic. But why didn't it affect cats? No idea... That's close to FIV feline immunodeficiency virus. I'm sure the umbrella corporation could tune it for feral ghoul cats. ps Iguana bits are lore based euphemism for human bits from a previous fallout. Oh , a bit like "Mystery Bacon" in Nuka World ? :sick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirGalahad Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 After 200 years, virtually all man-made structures will but gone. Don't believe me? Don't mow your yard for a couple years to see how this happens. That, and everything being brown and dead after 200 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pra Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) After 200 years, virtually all man-made structures will but gone. Don't believe me? Don't mow your yard for a couple years to see how this happens.Spoken like a true american! :DI could get up right now and walk to a 122 year old church, or take a bus to see some ~300 year old buildings in the city centre. And in Italy, Greece and Turkey they have buildings (well, ruins) from before Jesus. That, and everything being brown and dead after 200 years....That's another thing. See my other posts here regarding the ecosystem. IMO, brahmin and radstag should have eaten all the dead grass and bushes by now, and there should be new vegetation growing everythere, or they would starve. edit: while I'm faily certain that the buildings wouldn't go anywhere within 200 years, the roads could get covered by soil. The buildings might get buried up to the second store or something. Though I'm no geologist, I have no idea how soil buildup vs soil erosion work. But at least some of the aforementioned grecoroman ruins had to be excavated, because they were indeed covered by earth. Though again, they have been neglected for way longer than 200 years. Edited October 8, 2018 by pra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVampireDante Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 In a realism sense, there should be a lot more vegetation. Plant growth, even if somehow twisted by the radiation and other weird things going on in the Fallout universe, should have overtaken much of the areas unless the soil has become so tainted it doesn't allow for it. Of course though, the games are not going for a realistic look. The series plays on the typical post apocalypse style ruins and landscape a lot of movies and books portrayed - desolation and sparse vegetation.Perhaps if (in Fallout 4's case at least) the radstorms included a high chance of acid rain or something equally destructive, that would give some backstory to the more barren outlook the world has. But then they'd have to have everyone run for cover each time a radstorm kicked up, just in case it rained acid as well as upping the rad count. Wouldn't be a bad addition though gameplay wise, give a bit more urgency to some situations. As for the buildings and roads, for the most part they'd still be around. Maybe some of the wooden framed homes would be more likely to have fallen apart unless someone was taking care of it for a time before abandoning it for somewhere more secure.The roads are covered in places as well as broken by both the initial bombings disrupting the ground with their shockwaves, general shift due to tree roots, deterioration of their materials and perhaps the occasional landslide. The downtown and other inner city areas have sections blocked with rubble and fallen buildings in place of fallen trees or large rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirGalahad Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 After 200 years, virtually all man-made structures will but gone. Don't believe me? Don't mow your yard for a couple years to see how this happens.Spoken like a true american! :DI could get up right now and walk to a 122 year old church, or take a bus to see some ~300 year old buildings in the city centre. And in Italy, Greece and Turkey they have buildings (well, ruins) from before Jesus. But people are maintaining those structures—even if the average tourist is unaware of their work. Should humans stop intervening with the natural order, nearly everything we've made vanishes. And I did specify most everything—not everything. Even immense stone structures may be rendered invisible by overgrowth, though not entirely eradicated. But the typical single-family home?—gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undeadbob666 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Roman buildings did not use our concrete formula which is by far inferior due to their use of volcanic ash in the mixture, so yes ancient building do remain in our time due to this and what SirGalahad said about maintaining the buildings. Of course I base this entirely on the show life after people, with some sporadic research here and there. So most of Boston should be barren except for those buildings inhabited by the likes of super mutants or raiders - I feel like those buildings left standing would indeed be occupied with bastards to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stronglav Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Red rocket door hydraulics still work after 200 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderMuffin Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 You know what doesn't make sense Super mutants respawning this is hitting spoiler territory so The Institute makes super mutants, but they stopped the FEV research and the FEV labs were sealed off. Why do super mutants come back when they're killed instead of being replaced by ferals or raiders. At least with ferals there is the idea of ferals migrating around but super mutants? Nah, they shouldn't come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pra Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 But people are maintaining those structures—even if the average tourist is unaware of their work. Should humans stop intervening with the natural order, nearly everything we've made vanishes. And I did specify most everything—not everything. Even immense stone structures may be rendered invisible by overgrowth, though not entirely eradicated. But the typical single-family home?—gone! They are mantained now, but before that, they were just lying around for centuries. Though if by "typical single-family home" you mean those wooden houses which get wrecked by hurricanes IRL on a regular basis: yeah, they wouldn't last. Wood rots rather fast if not mantained. In wooden buildings which were abandoned just for decades the floor might no longer be safe, and some parts can be soft enough to be breakable by hand. After 200 years, only a small hill with grass on it would remain imo, with the chimney poking out. But buildings made of steel, bricks and concrete have somewhat good chances to stay mostly intact, I think. I think the biggest source of erosion would be plants, though: they get their roots into the tiniest cracks, and expand them while growing. Whenever they would be as intact as in Fallout, though, no idea. I don't think it looks too unrealistic. Except for the aforementioned wooden houses. As for the mutants: maybe they are infectious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderMuffin Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I mean to be fair, 3 and 4 aren't alone in that. 1, 2, NV and Tactics had people squatting in old steel, concrete and brick buildings with little maintenance being done. Hell, in 2 the Tankers would end up like Rivet City with their old tanker falling apart, collapsing and rusting out. Rivet City, which I really hate as a concept, at least is a military vessel which would be built to last longer then an oil tanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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