Aeryn333 Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 I do give a rats ares about this.as we all do here in Éire ..that eh like see I am from Ireland and we disagree with this intensely ..Many people were forced to go to America and Canada the famine and all ect..WE embrace and encourage people to accept their roots..Being Irish does not mean you were born in Ireland, being Irish means its those roots that beat the loudest in your heart...and soul..it what defines you..Being Irish says your proud of your hetitage...no matter where you were born, so many of our own in Exile because of things that happened here.. We look at America sometimes as a culture without roots..What is American culture, but a set of political beliefs, not cultural ones..for America was made on the backbone of many a culture for now I will deal with just the Irish..forgeting that is why there is so much predjudice there as we see it.. Eh like for its what I know..there are no true Americans but Native Americans..If more people got in touch with not where they live but who they are culturally, they would not feel so lost as who am I..To simply say I am an American what does that mean , roots are important to people..it says where you come from..what intially shaped you..So many young people are losing sight of the meaning of roots and its sad.. To say the words I am Irish American means one has accepted the roots of their ancestors..To many poeple forgot, the ancestoral roots are lost. traditions are lost..la No one actually has a aright to call themselves a true American but Native Americans, to find your roots is to find your history to find yourself, is to find where yor people came from and what culture beats the truest to what you think believe feel in the inner you, ones truest self.. Thats my say, and I will not get into an arguement about it, you know who...I am not in the mood..comprende vous!!!!. la Okay, okay. It was in the whole "rats ass" thing. No need to get all "Erie Go Bragh" on me. Jump off my nuts, it's my opinion. It's what I don't give a rat's ass about, okay? F*cking christ man, get over it. I'm Irish, family came here in 1717, blah, blah, blah. I'm actually a descendant grandson of Robert the Bruce. There is far as my "roots pride" goes. I know of it, but my give a sh*t button broke a LOOONNNGG time ago. Take the roots stuff seriously, but don't jump on my ass when I give my "rats ass" list on the "rats ass" thread. I'm not forcing anything on you, or was directed at you. Érin Go Bragh is a saying of pride Ireland forever.Do not use it causallly..Its an insult to the Irish born..would you like it if I pissed on your flag.. I donl't recall quoting you, or jumping on anyones bullocks, but stating my feeling on the matters I purposely did not quote anyone, my lil don't argue with me, was directed toward someone I have blocked, and did not want to here one more of his Irish put downs..that someone was not you..so cool it.. I did peek and that someone think Irish are drunks, feck you...Timi...you liitle digs are rude and uncalled for..kidding or not it was rude..per usual..block back..up..I really could care less, what do you have against the Irish anyways..have we not suffered enough..So if like eh those of us who value roots and traditons, and culture, if you don't fine, but don't dump your shite on me, because i do.. As it was my feelings alone not attack on anyone.. these are my opinions, got it..and I am entitled to them..I will not get over it, as you said..what my family lived and died for our roots....and how many of our people were driven out because of the famine or died..and how many here of those people, who hurt that they feel in exile, more than you know.. it was to them I spoke..not you..so you get over it.. I went to a English school forced where I was beat for speaking Irish, you have no idea where my pride comes from..Eh like I'll not have it trampled over by someone who seems to know nothing of the meaning of roots..How come if we speak up for ourselves we're being arses, but If anyone speaks their opinion of America, oh thats not alright..How come people like timi can say were all drunks, then oh its a joke, no it prejudice.. and thats Ok, but speak ones opinion of America and oh and eh like I need to get over myself, my opinion as a Anthoplogy major is well founded..and is as vaild as anyones..and it was directed at no-one I read the responses and I put mine in.. that simple la...We fought and died here, many of my very family to maintain our culture and our roots, and our language..This is an international forum, so we do get our say here..I offended no-one I just gave my feelings and my opinions.. And We here in Ireland, get many letters from peoople who feel they are in Exile shunned becasue they in their hearts are still Irish, and Americans laugh at them for they are in the states and have no right, and better asssimilate..and lose their accents..eh like it is those people I defend.la..Who got in your face I did not, I stated how I felt..I did not qoute you so why you taking this so personal..I forced nothing on anyone I simply gave my opinion, I think its you that needs to cool your heels la..Nough said.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryn333 Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 I agree that we are all a melting pot. And have been for a long time. I am a bit of an amature historian...have that lovely degree paper hanging on my walll that says so..ha ha.. anyway..just read that they had found like 2,500 year old "vikings" that had a large arabic dna pattern...and if in fact were more diverse than the modern day Scandanavians. Huh! However....I enjoy my heritage. I believe that you can learn great lessons from the history of were you came. In fact..those who do not know their history are doomed to repete it. Now do I agree to just wave some flag around on Columbus Day or St. Patrick's? No. I think you should study and know your history and culture if this is something to which you wish to proclaim your pride. But in many ways we can not escape our past..culturally or genetically. I am a mix of many...Irish, Scots, Welsh, Native American and since many of my ancesters are from the South...well who knows what else. I take pride in them all as I take pride in being an American. I have studied them..traced my ancestery....I come from the lowest of peasents to Welsh Royality...equally proud of them all...and I hope to pass this information and love to my daughter. And I do not think American's have the same sense and understanding of National Pride that others may..nI am not saying we do not love our country as much...I am saying that there is a large difference between patriotic pride and a sense of "nationalism." Many of our friends here have recently fought for (or may be fighting in many ways) thier freedoms. The Irish here for example....it has not been that long that they sat under the thumb of the British. Did you know that the Celtic countries for which the British ruled..it was illegal to speak their native tongue..up until very recently. Welsh school children who spoke their tongue were beaten, ridiculed, forced to sit in the corner wearing signs saying "Welsh Not." I personally know people here who have themselves or had parents fight and die for freedom. In their own country..their own back yard...I admire these people and give them every right to take pride in what ever the hell they wish. So we can all have our opinion...and yes..untimately we are all HUMAN and need to learn this above all things. As it is that sameness that can unite us....it is our differences...of culture, language and beliefe that MAKES us human...and a heck of a lot more interesting that the cookie cutter world that I often observe. So celebrate your heritage or not as you see fit. But do not belittle those who have found joy, comfort and pride in something far bigger than themselves. And I couldn't give a rat's arse if anyone cares to read this....har Eh like so well spoken la..Goddess bless you my friend!!! Mymaad..."Not arguing about it, but I don't give a rat's ass about living in denial, so. Felt the need to point it out." very good points and thank you for them also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timihendrix91 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Oh man.. ;D How come if we speak up for ourselves we're being arses, but If anyone speaks their opinion of America, oh thats not alright..How come people like timi can say were all drunks, then oh its a joke, no it prejudice.. and thats Ok, but speak ones opinion of America and oh and eh like I need to get over myself, my opinion as a Anthoplogy major is well founded..and is as vaild as anyones..and it was directed at no-one I read the responses and I put mine in.. that simple la..You were making baseless comments on things you have no experience with. I did the same. Of course, when I do it, I'm immature and rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHammonds Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Time to stop the childish behavior. Anyone bashing or making fun of another culture from this point forward will not enjoy the consequences. LHammonds (Moderator) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timihendrix91 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 No one is making fun of anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyreil829 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 read above timi it shows that is was Col John Sheppard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarya Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Good. I hope that means no more "bears" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesto Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 hmmm...could i give enough of a rats arse to reach out and grab timis' hair as he hurtles past me to free fall? hmmm...but i just dont give a rats arse about much at all today... not even bears. oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyreil829 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 i could give a rats arse wait i am giving a rats arse that is too early! Col John Sheppard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesto Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I could give a rats arse about ' they also serve, who only stand and wait.'.And, i could give a rats arse about leaving the bears alone. They dont like being alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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