CTD when near Boston Airport

[Kdaj]

I may have deleted, yes. But nothing that could affect Boston Airplane i think.

They were mods that would only add weapons or armors or pipboy... not anything related directly with the place.

My save game has +/- 4 hours.

What do you mean running out of memory?

[Kdaj]

*sorry. double posting, can't see how to delete. I'm mobile right now.* Edited September 24, 2018 by Kdaj

[Deleted58783396User]

running out of memory literally means your total available memory is becoming non existent (basically unavailable to any other program or the same program that wishes to store more temporary data), basically insufficient memory, which can result in system crashes, application crashes, and other issues.

 

based on the images, it seems your game is using 12GB average, which is only 4 GB away from your total memory, so should it reach or exceed that total memory, you are going to run into issues.

 

now because you crash immediately upon trying to enter boston airport, this to me seems like your memory is reaching or exceeding its maximum capacity (16GB) thus causing the application to crash, due to insufficiant memory.

 

however the game should only use more System Ram, if and only if you have Exceeded Your Total Video Ram (Graphics Card Memory)

 

the mods you have deleted, did any of them use scripts ? if so this will cause issues, definitely. never delete mods in an active playthrough. the game is not stable enough to be able to simply delete and install mods in active playthroughs whenever 1 fancies.

Edited September 24, 2018 by Guest

[jdkzombie]

Try this tool that allows you to scrub a saved game of orphaned scripts and whatnot. It's certainly helped me in the past, and couldn't hurt to give it a try.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22633/

[Kdaj]

Now that explains that pop-up question "some mods are not available any longer, etc.".. never thought that could actually cause harm.

 

I'll try to see if that scrub jdkzombie is talking about does work to me. thanks for the tip, btw. ;)

 

If that doesn't work,... what now?

 

 

I'll keep you posted. :)

 

 

 

btw PyroStorm, i don't know if that was actually a question, but yes. Armors and Stuff mods started with quests to obtain those as a reward. So yes, Scripts everywhere. x)

[Kdaj]

What does this mean to you, jdkzombie? i mean the RAM info at the bottom....

 

 

https://imgur.com/yy3BtZ7

[jdkzombie]

Resaver is a 32 bit program, that ram usage is the ram the application itself is using, and doesn't use that much memory itself.

 

 

Make sure to use the cleaning tab, and select show unattached instances, then clean remove unattached instances, and then save your file. Backup the other first if you like. I always make a backup to a separate directory as a failsafe in case something goes wonky.

[Kdaj]

I tried and made everything you told me, but still the same.... CTD all the way.

 

i just tested too, i've disabled all mods and plugins and gave it a try. And still CTD.

 

 

I'm losing hope right now.. :'(

 

 

A last advice... if no salvation, i'll must start everything anew. :'( :'(

 

 

 

 

I thought of making a fresh new game and when got free from Vault 111, went to Boston Airport directly. Still CTD..... this mean that scripts aren't affecting at all the save game?

And this could really be something about the game? or something about my PC, generally speaking?

Edited September 29, 2018 by Kdaj

[Deleted58783396User]

disable every single mod including any dlc ( and retexture mods, so uninstall every single mod), with only Fallout4.Esm being active

 

download Start me up: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18946

 

and install it, so the only 2 plugins you have active will be the main fallout 4 master file, and Start me up, and likewise the only 2 active mods, no re-texture mods.

 

recommending Start Me Up, so you dont have to do the whole Pre-War Scene, you will be able to Start Right near Vault 111.

 

now backup all saved games, and move them into another folder, so you end up with no saved games in your fallout 4 user documents (where the fallout4.ini files are)

 

now start a Brand New Save Game, go to the door, choose your options for the Start Me Up mod, then choose the "i was near Vault 111" as your starting option, then make your way to Boston Airport.

 

if you still get a ctd, then do the same thing again, only this time Download and install this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26286?tab=files

 

choose the file that matches your setup, if you have all dlc, then download the very first file, now do the same again, only this time you now have 3 active mods/plugins, Start Me Up, Boston FPS Fix, and Fallout4.esm

 

do all of the above, and report back here, if you still ctd after doing all the above then the issue will either be Software or Hardware Related.

 

Note: Start Me Up, is recommended for quick testing straight from a brand new saved game

 

Note: Boston fps fix, will as the name suggests fixes the massive fps spikes/poor fps, in boston, where usually your fps would tank hard, the airport being 1 such place potentially, this mod will help identfy if you are crashing because your machine cannot handle said area, as such with this mod enabled we will be able to see if this is the case.

 

Note: Do not use the COC console command. ignore every quest, just go straight to Boston Airport, straight from a new game, to have as less scripts active as possible, and to get a 100% precision on what the cause may be.

 

Note: For Boston Fps fix, choose the Boston FPS Fix-Vanilla first, to test without the dlc active, then for second test, download the dlc versions of it: Boston FPS Fix AIO (the very first file on the page).

 

Note: I am recommending disable all dlc on the first test, to eliminate them being a potential cause, it is not unheard of, of the official dlc being the cause of game crashes, example, automatron dlc, actually causes an 100% Repeatable Crash in a specific part of boston, which somebody found out, and released a mod to fix said issue, so yea.

 

Note: Start Me Up will not affect the results of Boston Airport, so its a safe mod to test with, same applies to Boston FPS fix Mod, as that mod Re-Builds the Precombines, and as such is another safe mod to test with, safe as in these mods will not cause issues, and cannot be the cause of issues, basically meaning they will not effect the test in a negative way.

Edited September 30, 2018 by Guest

[Kdaj]

Ok, I've just made the first test... no actived mod, no plugins activated. just the master file and Start Me Up mod. I was on my way to Boston Airport and crossed w/ Watts Consumer Electronics. I know i've never been in this place before. i didn't recognize the name (so i can't say if this can happen in my save or not. but i'll test it anyway). I'm talking about this because i've found there was actually no building in place... Just grey-scaled "flashy" bugs everywhere, "sliding" the screen away. Just like what i saw at Boston Aiport... So, i thought this could be the answer we were looking for anyway and was no need to make another trip and in double distance to see the same thing...

 

So, having the answer i'll now go test w/ the Boston FPS fix and i'll let you know soon.

 

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i've tested w/ Boston FPS fix - Vanilla and after entering Boston Area, the game CTD... in other words, the "issue's area of effect" had somehow got bigger or it's just another conflict? right now counting 3 places. (Watts Consumer Electronics, Airport and somewhere between Cambrigde and Boston (the place where i just CTD).

 

anyway, i'll now go test w/ the Boston FPS fix AIO...

 

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yes, CTD around East Boston and Boston Airport. Well, no luck at all. :'(

 

A re-install wouldn't make it happen?

Edited September 30, 2018 by Kdaj