grallonsphere Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Gods below this game is temperamental! When I switched over to SE I thought most of the problems we had with Oldrim would be over. If anything things might be worse now. Sometimes the game will behave exactly as it did with LE and we had the memory ceiling. - I will climb down my horse and turn around to check if my follower is behind - CTD.- If I die in combat and the game reloads, it becomes unstable and a CTD is most likely to happen soon after, so I usually exit and reload from the last save.- Sometimes it crashes (stopped responding) when I transition from one cell to another. So I've started saving every 4-5 minutes.- Sometimes it will freeze solid and I can't even CTRL + ALT + Del to kill the process. I have to restart the system.- It just crashed again, when a dragon attacked and I was in my tent. I could no longer control anything. ---------- Maybe my gear is getting old. I bought this PC 4 years ago when I started playing Oldrim. It's an I5 750 - 2.7G with an Nvidia GForce 760 2G on Win 8.1. The video drivers are up to date (although I've been experiencing relatively frequent driver crashes (driver has crashed but recovered) as of late). I've looted, merged and bashed my mods. I'm well below the limit (175 mods active). If I add a mod I always re-loot, re-merge and re-bash the whole thing, running FNIS when there are animations involved. Finally I regularly check the saves with ReSaver. I'm not using an ENB, I've also turned off the Godrays, reduced the shadow rendition, reduced the LOD draw distance. Oh and after summoning Durnehviir for the third time, learning the last shout and completing his quest, he just won't fade away! He follows me around whenever I'm in Skyrim (not in Solstheim), freaking out the locals and spooking the cows! Anyway, here's my LO: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmSexLab.esmLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmUnofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.espFISS.espApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmApachiiHairMales.esmCampfire.esmApachii_DivineEleganceStore.esmTravellersOfSkyrim.esmSexLabAroused.esmTerrainLodRedone.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espVerdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.espSMIM-SE-Merged-All.espBetter_Male_Presets.espImmersive Sounds - Compendium.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espCutting Room Floor.espRiftenMisfits.espNK Followers.espAster Follower.espTeron Follower.espElf_Squad.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.esp3DNPC.espSkyUI_SE.espHoldtoSprintSSE1.5.espAcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.espSeptims Have Weight - (0.005 Weight).espSparklesSE.espsandboxcylinderheight.espRunandwalkpaces.espSimplySmallerWolfs2.espiHUD.espAMatterOfTime.espFastTravelSpeedMultiplier.espRichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espbeltfastenedquivers.espReal Roads.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espBeards.espSexLabMatchMaker.espTVDT REMOVED.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espJKs Skyrim.espObsidian Mountain Fogs.espBook Covers Skyrim.espBetter descriptions SSE.espFloraRespawnFix.espCWIELnFXSEPatch.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espImmersive Movement.espCooking_In_Skyrim_v_2_0_Salty_Edition.espMove it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.espNo More Standing Too Close SSE 1-0.espMajesticMountains.espFootprints.esp20 More Perk Points.espDivinePeopleOfSkyrim.espTravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.espSPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espISC Enhanced Blood Patch.espdD-Medium Script Range.espdD-No Screen Blood.espdD-Reduced Splatter Size.espTrueStormsSE.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espUnique Uniques.espskyforgedWeapons.espTelvanniRobes.espMore Weapons Please.espGQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.espimp_helm_legend.espUrsine Armour - Non HDT.espDCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.espZMS_V4.espZNI_V4.espRUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.espLanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.espCWICRFSEPatch.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation.espM2M_Animations_SE.espBlanketScarf.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espKS Hairdo's.espAFT - Dragonborn Patch.espAFT - USSEP Patch.espAFT - 3DNPC Patch.espQw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.espDawnguard Delayed - Level 30.espDawnguardVampireAttackFix.espDragonborn Delayed - After Alduin's Bane.espKS Dragon Overhaul.espQw_DPOSMenOnly_CRF_MissingHairs Patch.espPumpingIron.espTime Passes.espEmote.espSimpleOutfitManager.espDragon Stalking Fix.espBlues Skyrim.espJKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.espProudspiremanorTNFBP.espSolitude Expansion.espLKVM by Nimee - Part I_ SE.espHunting in Skyrim.espLegendary Skyrim Crossbows.espZIA_Ancient Pack_V4.espFNIS.espOrdinator - Perks of Skyrim.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espHidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged NavMeshed - No Map Markers.espCRF - Lighting Overhaul.espaaaGraniteHill.espPoint The Way.espSimplyBiggerTreesSE.espImmersive Encounters.espRun For Your Lives.espAevon-Tor Reloaded.espImmersive Patrols II.espArs Metallica.espFrostfall.espWhite River Cottage.espProvincial Courier Service.espZIA_Daedric Pack_V4.espApachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.espElysiumEstate.espLimbwoodManor.espRayeks_End_SSE_1.0.espBlacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.espnotice board.espCloaks&Capes.esp1nivWICCloaks.espWetandCold.espTrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.espVivid WeathersSE.espIcePenguinWorldMap.espLeftHandRings.espOpen Face Guard Helmets.espImperious - Races of Skyrim.espConsole Books.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espLKVM_NOGrass.espRiftenGarret.espSexLab Eager NPCs.espDr_Bandolier.espSolitudeWolfTower.espLimbwoodManorTreePatch.espMy Home Is Your Home.espmcCampingLite.espApocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.espApocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.espJaxonzEnhGrab.espWeaponsOf3E_SSE.espElemental_Staffs.espLeftHandRings-1stPersonView.espZTH_V4.espEvil MasterMind Armor.espForge Water Fix - CRF Patch.espTW3Weaponry.espSolitudeTempleFrescoesBig.espVivid Weathers & True Storms MCP.espDarkerNights.espVivid Weathers & True Storms & Wet and Cold MCP.espVW&TSMCP Wet and Cold Patch.espRealRainSEVivid.espArs Metallica - LSC Patch.espLKVM_Frostfall.espQw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.espQw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.espQw_CloaksAndCapes_CRF Patch.espQw_DPOSMenOnly_ICoWinterhold Patch.espMasterOfTime_Nih.espFNISspells.espHavenBag.espXPMSE.esp0Kaidan.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espRelationship Dialogue Overhaul.espRDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.espTKAA.espHearthfireMultiKid.espHearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp3DNPC TKAA Patch.espCutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.espHearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.espAlternate Start LAL TKAA Patch.espRealistic Haircolors.espTheChoiceIsYours.espConvenient Horses.espTCIY_BCS Patch.espRDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.espELFXEnhancer.espRealisticWaterTwo.espJKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.espRWT Lod Fix.espSSEMerged.espBashed Patch, 0.esp I can't buy a new computer atm so... anything else you might suggest I try would be welcome. 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Deleted3897072User Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 You haven't said how much system RAM you have. It may not be enough. Try using Skyrim Performance Monitor to check your VRAM and RAM usage. It will preserve data after a crash, so you can see what led up to it. As an experiment, try reducing the Detail setting to 'Low' in OPTIONS and running at reduced resolution in a window. It will look terrible but the question is: do you still crash so often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grallonsphere Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 16G - triple buffering on in the NVidia control panel - Antialiasing off. But I'll try your suggestion and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted3897072User Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 You could try it without triple buffering, as you only have a 2GB graphics card. It would be interesting to know how much system RAM it actually manages to use before crashing. There used to be a problem with WIndows 8.1 not handling memory properly and pulling the plug at 4GB even on 64-bit games but I thought that had been fixed with a WIndows update a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grallonsphere Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) The counters don't show up in-game... Edited September 17, 2018 by grallonsphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grallonsphere Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Now I'm prisoner in my house... whenever I try to leave I CTD. I rebooted and same results. I tried coc riftenorigin - CTD. It's either that damned Durnehviir that won't go away and spawns wherever I am in Skyrim - or because of the Black Books - or because I forced completed the Miraak quest qith the console and then gave myself his mask. I don't know. I think this particular game is done. Thankfully I finished all the DLCs nd the main quest. But I wanted to be free to explore now thatthe 'job' is done. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted3897072User Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) Your computer hates you. It happens, sometimes :D Seriously, though, I still think you have RAM problems. If you can't get SPM working, have read through the SPM comments thread and contact the author. He's a nice guy and likes to know about problems like you seem to be having in case it's something interesting he can solve. Also, SSE Engine Fixes might help you, if you don't already know about it. It might stop the crashing but also, it can be configured to generate a report if you do crash, that may give clues as to the root cause. I haven't used it much myself (except to see how it worked) because my game doesn't normally crash unless I deliberately force it to (for example, by spamming the memory leak in RaceMenu). Well, I hope that helps. Good luck :smile: Edited September 18, 2018 by OldMansBeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippboss Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Upgrading my RAM to 16gb earlier this year solved a lot of my crashing issues. SSE will eat all you have. SSE with tonnes of mods will eat even more. It left me with a stuttery mess and an unstable game. Id fire up afterburner and check out RAM and VRAM usage. Edited October 9, 2018 by Pippboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlbrad Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 i hear you on those issues, i have a nvidia 1070 8 gig vram and i still gotta use optimized textures, also it ia not your ram i only got 8 gigs and mine runs stable when i aint screwing it up, i recenlty uninstalled oldrim mcm because i didnt know the new skyui had it and nwo i cant create new characters without crashing. but keep in mind i also modified some other mods to by repacking them into a bsa, also installed one that nearly destroyed a gamesave (resaver is a lifesaver). nmm is good for mod testing but i prefer mo2 for its left pane orginization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyMcBride Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 If everything else is fine your load order is fine, and you cant find an answer, It a corrupted save in my book, but this game demands the game specs to be covered at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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