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[pwnedbyscope]

Is there any advice for a potential new player? ive been eying eve for quite a while now and am thinking about getting into it

[Vindekarr]

Yeah, avoid it like herpes. Nowhere in gaming will you find a less welcoming community-think COD's abusiveness and childishness combined with WoW's hormonal teeny agression and you're getting near the root of it. The game's virtually unmoderated, plagued by bots in their thousands(some have estimated 10% of the playerspace are bots, and 40% or botters) There's very little content unlessn you want to PVP, and the pvp is aweful since it all comes down to WoW-esque blob warfare. It's a miserable game and it's only getting worse.

[Vindekarr]

Accidental doublepost, please ignore/delete if you can. :wallbash: Edited July 7, 2012 by Vindekarr

[pwnedbyscope]

Oh, well then, guess ill stick to tanks

[Vindekarr]

Probably for the best, EVE costs a lot of money but gives you nothing back but trouble and unpleasent relationships, not worth your time.

[samroski]

>100,000 player disagree with Vindekarr and continue to think that Eve is worth the time and money. I'm certainly one of them, and have about a dozen accounts (2 active currently). I'll continue to play eve till the game is around or I'm dead :)

 

For the past 3 years I've played Eve using PLEX, which is an ingame item that you can buy off the market, and which gives you 30 days of game time. After a year of playing I had enough in-game money to afford all these accounts (each account made me more money).

 

Eve is difficult to get into as it is a complex game, but that is one of the best things about it. You click a button and a whole new aspect of the game opens up that you never knew existed. After more than 4 years I still have stuff left to do.

 

The Eve Universe is harsh as well for players used to tamer online environments. A section of Eve community exists just to grief other (especially new) players. Most of these people are good decent folk who are out there roleplaying as pirates- mostly to have a good time blowing ships up. If you do not take things too seriously, you can have some spine tingling encounters with them- great entertainment.

 

There are a large number of scammers who will also try and take advantage of your lack of game knowledge to scam you out of money. If you do not give money to someone, you cannot be scammed. Thus do not give money, or spend money on anyone's advice- do not accept any contracts, do not try any trades. Do nothing financial till you know what is happening or have read some advice. I'll link necessary information in the resources sticky in this forum.

 

Vindekarr's experience of corps full of degenerates is part of the reality, which includes scores of great corporations. It may take you time to settle into a corp. or to find a corp that suits your play style. If you want to join a decent corp, just post in this forum and the the members should be able to give you many suggestions. As a new player there is no urgency in joining a corp. When you start you're part of an NPC corp, with 1000s of other players as members. At any given time there are more than 300 corp members online. Some of these players are alts of experienced players and can give all sorts of useful advice. You can strike up friendships with people who log in around the same time- and do cooperative stuff with them, and even form a new corp yourself (which costs next to nothing) with your friends. Also a good idea to play with friends you know in RL- as you can trust them more than the other people you meet in Eve.

 

Two rules: trust no one; do not fly a ship you cannot afford to lose.

 

The central part of the Eve universe is high security space which is policed and the chances of people destroying your ship is minimal. Especially if you do not do stupid stuff like carrying billions worth of cargo in a small defenceless ship. Thus nowhere is safe, but anyone who tries to kill you in high security will get killed by the police, but you may die as well. Their friends will collect your cargo.

 

As a new player you can stick to high security space and no one will bother you. You have immunity in the newbie start systems. No one is allowed to scam you or destroy your ship (usually by tricking you into stealing their stuff first, which gives them rights to shoot you).

 

You yourself are immortal. If someone shoots your escape pod, your clone will re-awaken in a station. The insurance will give you a new rookie ship. Other small ships in Eve (frigates) are cheap. You should never be shy of losing ships in Eve. When you're in a fight in Eve, all illusion ends. It seems real. Your emotions and reactions are as if in real life. No other game does this so well.

 

Enough rambling for a day :)

[ThetaOrionis01]

pwnedbyscope, don't let yourself be put off by vindekarr's comments. Before you follow his advice, you should probably read some of his posts in which he shared his experiences with various corporations, and judge for yourself whether the incompatibility between vindekarr and the corporations that accepted his applications was always entirely the fault of the corporations, or whether perhaps vindekarr's attitude may have had something to do with his repeated failed attemtps to find a good corp. :)

 

A much better guide is samroski's post, which highlights some of the opportunities and pitfalls new players may experience. :)

 

 

I have been playing EVE for over 6 years now, and have always found something interesting to do. From starting out running missions in high security space to taking my first steps into piracy, from flying in small pvp gangs to being a part of epic fleet battles, I have met many other players who were willing to teach and guide less experienced players at every stage.

 

Like samroski, there are aspects of the game that I have never explored - so even after 6 years there are still new things for me to try, should I wish it :)

 

My focus in the game is pvp, specialising in flying logistics ships. Again, ignore vindekarr's comments about 'blob warfare' - from looking at his posting history I doubt that he has ever been able to acquire first-hand experience of fleet warfare to be able to make an informed comment rather than regurgitating perceived forum 'wisdom'. If you have never seen 150 Apocs in a fleet warp, you really have missed out on an amazing sight :).

Or seen a cynosural field open, and a capital ship fleet enter the field (admittedly, that was even more spectacular with the old cyno effect^^).

Or participated in an 8 hour long running battle that left 1000 ships destroyed.

Or set your alarm clock for an early morning op to recapture a system that would turn the tide of a sovereignty war.

 

If you want to find out more about different aspects of EVE from a player perspective, I would suggest watching some EVE videos - you will find no shortage of them in the EVE Online forum section set aside for them: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=262 Check out the 'Clarion Call' ones, for instance :)

 

Among corporations who help new players, EVE University has an excellent reputation. Many factional warfare corps also welcome new players and help them get started. As you progress through the game and acquire skills and ships, you will also build up contacts and a reputation, which will help you (or hinder, depending on the kind of reputation you acquire - and word does get around in EVE!) get accepted into other corporations that engage in the gameplay you want to try out.

What you want to do in EVE is your choice - but the nice thing is that you can always change your mind and focus on something else instead :)

[Halororor]

I might start up again this semester. Only planning on taking my netbook with me to university, and I heard Eve runs pretty well on netbooks.

 

Want to kind of take a break from playing newer games and focus on all the old games I've missed over the years, which is why I'm leaving the desktop at my parents this year. Eve is more like a second job, though, so I don't really consider it a game. I go there to work. :P

[K00L]

I tried EVE once... :\ I didn't care much for it.

I just couldn't get past flying. I must have complete control. No likey the clicky. And it easily got boring for me. I prefer Freespace or the X (at least 2 and 3, don't have the first) series or Freelancer when it comes to flying ships. However I did like some of the customization stuff and walking around. But really, not my type of game. Even thought it looked really really fun in the trailers.

[DaedalusMachina]

EVE follows the idea that PVP is the only reason people play, but they don't design nor promote the game that way. I, personally, hate PVP. Always have, always will.

 

Everybody who plays is either committed, in which case they have bias because duh, they play, or they're a weekend warrior, who will never buy it. So those 100,000, I wouldn't trust them, either.