firefable Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 So, DO you love OBSE, please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyreil829 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 i 100% hate it most mods request it true but i only use it if i really really really like the look of a mod but untill then its a no for now Carth Onasi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michlo Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 How could anybody hate something that is not only optional but adds elements to the game which would otherwise be impossible? If you don't care to use it then don't but waste such a strong emotion on it? Crazy! :wallbash: Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyreil829 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 How could anybody hate something that is not only optional but adds elements to the game which would otherwise be impossible? quite easy Carth Onasi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrmaad Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 For me, it's mandatory. I love it. I can understand not understanding how to use it or what it does, but I'd really like to hear a rational explanation of why anyone would "hate" it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 for me its 50/50, I find it hard to "love" a program, or to "hate it. It is what it is,nothing more,nor nothing less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Yes, I like OBSE since it extends the script capacity beyond the original instruction set of the engine. Are it's detractors really aware why they "hate" it? Think you a mod that uses OBSE uses only OBSE functions? OBSE isn't meant to correct vanilla instructions, OBSE should not be seen as another mod... once installed it "integrates" with the engine, it is just a larger engine with enhanced functions. When Beth did Oblivion it used a small bit of an extensive array of OpCodes, reserved a second range for future expansions (like SI indeed used a few more of those addresses) and liberated all remained to 3th part use. One will blame OBSE because it can't be used by D2D versions but the use of encrypted code is the real culprit, not even by technological restrictions but legal ones. Can't use OBSE because you prefer former versions? OK, I don't know your motivations but you have the rights to them, so OBSE isn't for you. Just remember if you can't use a mod because it depends on OBSE... "KNOW" that mod most of times couldn't be done other way, or would be impractical to be done without it. Several will say OBSE is to blame for problems that clearly aren't from it. If a mod that uses OBSE functions fails someway this isn't reason enough to blame OBSE as failed itself. Would be the same that blame the engine for all no "OBSE mods" that fails (or how is more common, user fails). I'm not advocating OBSE as flawless, I know for self experience no system or software is perfect. No system like OBSE (or the own oblivion CS) can foresee what will be done with it's resources. But if not structurally wrong all mods can have their's bugs fixed. What seems impossible to fix is the mentality of some users. Eagers to find "brujas" and burns them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickythecat Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Wait a minute... No guys, tyreil is right! If my research here is correct, OBSE could be one of the biggest thrats to humanity ever devised! Take a look at this excerpt from OBSE's main website:...We, the scripting team in charge of developing OBSE are actually all terrible demons! our program is actually a secret device which, once installed, will slowly fill your hard drive with spyware and hideous porno, possess your house with ghosts, and kill all of your crops! Also, we're the ones who tore down your childhood home and ran over your cat and THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT HA HA HA...I think the excerpt speaks for itself. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some hideous porno to be disgusted by. Good day, gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Wait a minute... No guys, tyreil is right! If my research here is correct, OBSE could be one of the biggest thrats to humanity ever devised! Take a look at this excerpt from OBSE's main website:...We, the scripting team in charge of developing OBSE are actually all terrible demons! our program is actually a secret device which, once installed, will slowly fill your hard drive with spyware and hideous porno, possess your house with ghosts, and kill all of your crops! Also, we're the ones who tore down your childhood home and ran over your cat and THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT HA HA HA...I think the excerpt speaks for itself. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some hideous porno to be disgusted by. Good day, gentlemen.Oh yes, and communists eat children, the pope is pop and the Venusian Incas will conquer earth. Of course Edit: Just a warning, maybe I'm wrong while I think the rules of demeaning any "mod" without presenting pertinent reasons doesn't applies to the forum like in the files comments, but I think no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoginToDownload Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Oh yes, and communists eat children, the pope is pop and the Venusian Incas will conquer earth. Of courseIf you're going to make such outrageous claims, I'm going to have to ask you to back them up with hard (potentially fake) links to websites that may or may not exist saying that. Obviously, the Mayans will destroy the world in four years. Edit: Just a warning, maybe I'm wrong while I think the rules of demeaning any "mod" without presenting pertinent reasons doesn't applies to the forum like in the files comments, but I think no.At least he took it out of his sig... :glare: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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